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  • in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #415948
    John
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    Tee,

    Thanks for your thoughts and taking the time to read my story.  My latest thinking is that I am suffering from what is known as the Fawn response.  It is basically a people-pleasing response to aggression but for me, it relates only to my wife and not to others.  Some people have the Fight, Flight or Freeze responses but the Fawn response is another possible outcome that is now widely recognised.  Many believe that it is something that develops as a childhood protection mechanism that can also be manifested in later life.  It’s appeasement behaviour to try to reduce the aggression.  As well as developing in childhood, it can develop later in life as a result of Complex Trauma from on-going abuse.  Emotional abuse in my case.  I think it is this second, later in life, scenario that is more like my experience.  For me, everything points to the issue developing in my early twenties when I met my wife and it developed almost instantaneously.  Perhaps back then I still had enough of the child left in me to be susceptible.  I do not think it relates specifically to trauma in my childhood years as I don’t recall any childhood trauma that would fit with my experience.  Everything in my experience relates to something that developed later in life and has been with me for nearly 40 years.  It’s a very big price to pay.  So much lost time and the loss of the person most precious to me for 30 years.  We had hopes and dreams that came to nothing because of my issues.  I still have those hopes and dreams but I know it is no longer possible.  Time and again she would try to help me get away.  It has ruined my life and done a lot of damage to much of hers.  She finally got out and moved on and I am trying to be happy for her as I love her dearly.  Total and utter madness!

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #415899
    John
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    Still stuck after all these years.  The lady I love has moved on.  Me less so as she is never far from my thoughts.  I can hardly imagine the amount of pain I must have caused her.  My behaviour was atrocious but I wasn’t in control of myself when things finally fell apart for the last time.  I live in hope that one day I will see her again but I don’t think that will happen.  We still talk but needless to say it isn’t like before.  I finally lost the love of my life and deservedly so.  If only I had been able to do what needed to be done, I could have been so happy building a life with her.  We both wanted a life together for a very long time.  Decades in fact, so what we had must have been something very special for it to have endured for so long and with such a lot of stress on the relationship.  To anyone who might read this, do not let the same thing happen to you.  You will waste your life on a controlling abuser.  Don’t think it can’t happen to you as it happens all the time.  Let my story and countless others be a lesson.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #153452
    John
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    It seems that recent additions to this thread have been removed.  Thanks to whoever arranged that.

    in reply to: Yelling In Relationships? #146971
    John
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    Big red flag here.  Does he get angry, aggressive and lose his temper with all people or just a select few?  If it is under control with some and not others then he is choosing this behaviour, which is about dominance and control.  You are modifying  your behaviour to try to prevent his bad behaviour and are now walking on eggshells through fear of provoking the outbursts.  You are no longer being yourself which will not be good for you in the long term.  In a healthy relationship you should feel free to be yourself without fear of the consequences and that is no longer the case.  You have tried to be reason with him and he accuses you of being controlling.  Everything points towards disrespect and an unbalanced relationship.  I wish you well but fear for your mental health.

    in reply to: How to heal. #146137
    John
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    jlo5.  You did the right thing.  His recent and previous bad behaviour has been about control and anger.  When he finally realised that the abusive approach doesn’t  work anymore he changed his behaviour because you didn’t respond as he was hoping and in the way you have previously.  Rewarding bad behaviour with the desired response only serves to reinforce it.  Be aware that this new approach could just be a variation on how to regain control as you and he will only be free from it when he finally moves on from where he has been for a little longtime.  Good luck and best wishes.

    John
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    If it makes you feel bad it is emotional abuse. Little by little it will destroy you.  You will modify your behaviour in order to please him, or more likely, not displease him.  Eventually your personality will be changed which will make you very unhappy. You will tiptoe around him walking on eggshells as opposed to being your natural authentic self.  Unless he changes, the discomfort you feel around him will get worse.  This is what happened to me over a 35 year period. Don’t make my mistake and get trapped by it. It will make you very unwell from a mental health perspective.

    in reply to: Advice appreciated, long term relationship ending. #127599
    John
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    Dear jlo5,

    Not much to report from me other than I am feeling much better. I was in a bad place when we were first in contact. My mental health was terrible due to the stresses within me. I’m hoping that circumstances will change soon so that I can begin to move on with life having been stuck for such a long time.

    in reply to: Advice appreciated, long term relationship ending. #127148
    John
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    jlo5,

    Good luck and best wishes. I hope it works out for the better for all of you.

    in reply to: How to find love? #123205
    John
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    How to find love? That’s a good question. I don’t really understand or connect with any of the intellectualism that has gone before in this thread so I will speak from my experience. I have been in love several times in my life but only once have I found love that has been reciprocated. When you fall in love you will know and in all probability the other person will not love you back to the same degree. If they do then you have a match made in heaven. Why do we fall in love with the person we love, nobody knows and no amount of analysis will reveal any insight. We feel for the other person. We want to be with them and that is all consuming. If that person is not within your circle of aquaintances then you need to go looking elsewhere. That’s why dating agencies are in business.

    in reply to: Feeling Guilty #123196
    John
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    Hollypop,
    Don’t beat yourself up over it. We’ve all been there and done things that we wished we hadn’t the next day. From what you have said, it doesn’t sound like it’s such a big deal. The people that you worry you might have offended have probably done things they wished they hadn’t and have also wished they could turn back the clock. People are very forgiving once an apology is offered and you will also feel better after apologising. That can be a very difficult thing to do but things will be much better once you do it. Sounds to me like it was a good party and and getting drunk and kissing people and insulting the boss is a long-standing tradition at this time of year.

    in reply to: I miss my emotionally abusive (ex-)boyfriend. #122139
    John
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    Aballa. Thanks for your kind words. I won’t give up. I can’t do that but part of me thinks that life would be much easier if I could.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #120826
    John
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    Vanetta,

    I hope you feel better soon. Everyone tells me that I need to get out and move on and I tell myself the same. Hopefully you have seen the light and done the same as your pain is clear from your writings. Be strong for your sake and your sons.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #120806
    John
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    gvstate,
    Thanks for taking the time to respond. Everything you mention has been clear to me for a long time and I recognise my own compliance in this problem. I think it is difficult for most people to understand the situation, as it difficult for me to understand why anyone would stay in any relationship that has brought such unhappiness, when there is no barrier to leaving? It makes no sense at all and I know I have a problem that needs to be resolved in some way. As you rightly pointed out, “there is something deep down and emotional keeping him tethered to this marriage”.

    Kitt,
    Thanks for the input. I sense the frustration in your message and suspect you understand my problems only too well but it sounds like you have endured worse. I have done a lot of research on personality disorders as I have tried to understand more about what has happened to me and why. Much of it seems to fit reasonably well. I wish you the best of luck in your recovery.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #120804
    John
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    Sunnyside,

    To answer your questions…. The intimacy stopped after a couple of years of being married. It was my idea to sleep in a separate room.

    in reply to: Emotionally Abused Man #120759
    John
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    Sunnyside, As regards the timeline your understanding is not exactly right but close enough. To be more precise, the 10 year gap is the time difference between when I met my wife and when things became intimate with my friend. I didn’t marry my wife until after a couple of years and didn’t start the other relationship until a few years after we met. Consequently, the timeline between when I got married and when the affair started is probably around 6 years give or take a little. As regards your other question about confiding in someone, this is something I have never really done and have always kept problems to myself. Only recently have I started to open up a little as I have been overwhelmed and recognise how bad things became in terms of my mental state.

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