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I do feel like I am not fully seeing things as clearly as I could. From outside perspectives my close friends tell me that he doesnt care or that he is just keeping me on the line. But i guess I just dont want to believe that..
KyleeParticipantHi Anita,
I agree I do get scared to speak up sometimes but I usually push myself to do it anyway. At times I feel maybe I come off intense because i am really direct but I feel like I should be right? I always try to be respectful as I do so.
This whole situation brings me a lot of sadness and pain. I dont even feel happy about it anymore. I want to trust him and trust the process by letting go and I am trying to do so. I guess what I feel is that he doesnt want to spend quality time with me, he says he does but usually when we go out its at the bar and he seems to be on his phone alot. I mentioned this before, I try not to let it bother me because I feel that is such a common thing people do these days anyway.
He used to go out of his way for me and it made me feel so happy and appreciated. But once the topic of commitment came up he just withdrew alot. Id leave and he would come back and say he wanted to be with me but then he puts the most minimal effort. ( I feel selfish saying that because I dont want to put him down or overlook good things in him.) Sometimes he will text me in the morning or at night but its scattered. And sometimes he wont talk to me all day or ask me anything. It just feels at his convenience and I explained this to him but he doesn’t agree. I know I could probably reach out and talk to him but I feel like i Have done that so much and not much has changed & now i just have anxiety about talking to him becuase I never know what the next thing is with him.
Ultimately, I think he just doesnt want a commitment. Other wise he would commit to me right? Part of me just feels like I am being played. Like he likes that Im there and will hang with him when he can or talk to him whenever but the small things I want like just laying down and spending time together or watching a movie, he never wants to do.
Last night he called me after hardly talking to me the last few days. He said asked what I was up too and I said i just got home from hanging with friends. He said oh i wish I new because I am on my way to pick up my car, I had to get a cab but I would have asked you. He said Well once I get it do you want to hang out for a little bit? I said No i have plans tonight. and he asked about my day but I honestly kept it very brief and short because I feel he doesnt really care or listen anyway. For ex: he new i had an important interview other day and he didnt even ask me how it went. In fact he didnt talk to me at all that day I had it. I get it, we are all busy and sometimes we want to just be alone but it just makes me sad. anyway I got off phone with him really quick, usually I always say yes to plans with him but for once I didnt.
I hate feeling so skeptical and unsure of this relationship. I need something more committed and consistent. This just feels so hard for me. I keep blaming myself for how things are between us.
Thank you,
Kylee
KyleeParticipantHi Anita,
1. Yes I think so.. He said he feels like he has shield up when it comes to taking the next step in a relationship. But sometimes to me that seems like an excuse because someone doesnt want to commit or something.. I try not to doubt things but its so hard.
2. Not everytime we had sex together. Recently he hasnt tried which makes me thinks another girl is involved. But tonight we hung out again and we actually had a nice conversation about our perspectives and it helped alot but the condemn thing was eating me up!! So after I left him I called him and I said I dont mean to keep bringing things up but I saw a condemn wrapper on your floor and it upset me because I dont know what to think. He said No Kylee that was from a while ago I legit havent cleaned my room in so long, i said I know you havent but like it just seems weird I dont feel like u want me to sleep over or have sex with me now. He said that isnt true and he thinks because of a prior incident I have this distorted perception of him and how he is unfaithful. I said well I dont mean to upset you I just think that I rather bring it up than hold it in. He said Im not upset with you im just annoyed that I need to explain myself when you should just believe me.
We then got off the phone and he said have a goodnight and ill talk to you tomorrow, I said okay goodnight. But then i texted him because I felt so guilty and I said thank you for talking to me, goodnight. … Whenever I express myself like that I get so insecure like what Im saying is unreasonable. He told me that its crazy how i am thinking. Because each time we have hung out recently things come up. But i feel like I just need to talk about it and it feels like a cycle and then i think omg i ruined it cuz i talked about things and now he is gonna be fed up with me and not want to talk to me or be with me..
Also I dont ask him to have sex with me the times that we have were naturally that way.
I just feel so crappy about myself for doubting him but then again I have had reasons too. But I dont want to hold it against him. I want to be able to let go and move forward and be happy but sometimes its so difficult because I overthink so deeply. He knows I do this too. Like after our long talk then i called him to bring that up so i feel like i push him away.
Its just so confusing and gives me so much anxiety because Im like well now he prob wont even talk to me because I questioned him…
-Thank you, Kylee
KyleeParticipantHi Anita,
Well I dont think sex is what he wants from me actually. He tells me he doesnt want to have sex right now because he doesnt want me to think hes just using me for that. Then that makes me think he is having sex with other girls and doesnt want anything with me in that way I guess. Its just really hard to trust the process because I am scared to put fourth the effort yet again and it turn into the same thing or that he will never want to go further & ill be here sad for wasting my time. This situation just seems so drawn out and everytime he texts me I am nervous to even respond because I dont know what to expect out of this situation. If i find out he is with another girl I will be so so hurt. I just dont know how to let go and trust the process. I feel so consumed and its hard to eat right now or sleep with my anxiety so high. I wish I didnt let this affect me to deeply, I over think every scenario with him.
Thank you
Kylee
KyleeParticipantIt just feels like he wants me there but then he doesnt want to take the time to fully commit.
KyleeParticipantHi Valora and Anita,
The longest I did not talk to him was about 2-3 weeks. He usually comes back saying he misses me and thinks about me and wants to be with me. But I cant just be with him, like he said we need to build the relationship back up but i cant build it back up when I hardly see him or think that he is just not going to talk to me again. Its a cycle.
I know that we are not truly together even if he says we are and then says we arent. I know that but it messes with me because its back and fourth. If in the process of us trying to build back up a relationship and hes seeing other people. I cannot be with him at all in anyway shape or form.
So his room is pretty messy and unorganized that is what leads me to believe it could have been from us but what also makes me doubt if thats true is… I remember weeks ago when i was over that I did see a box with like 3 condemns in it..now I see the empty box.
The thing is too is that the only reason we weren’t really speaking over those weeks is because I decided to not respond to him because he kept blowing off our plans or not taking the time to truly sit and talk with me. And it always appeared to be at his convenience when we would talk or see one another. ( I even expressed this to him.) And when I did try to get him to talk to me he is always all over the place hes like yes I wanna be with you but then hes like we need to let things flow naturally. He always says that and im like we have been seeing each other for a few months now, usually someone knows if they want to be with someone. Therefore I ended it with him and then he comes back and then its the same exact cycle. It just makes me feel like I am waiting around or waiting for him to text or call me or come see me. It feels that way even if thats not his intent. I explained this to him and he tells me not to worry and whatever but it stresses me out because I cant tell if he actually wants to be together or not. Its so all over the place and i have tried to be so clear with him. I dont even no what to say to him at this point. I know he wants to go about it normally and act like everything is good. But thats hard for me to do when Im questioning constantly if he is either committing to me or not.
Last night for instance when he took me home when i asked him too, i felt so horrible about it all thinking im just “crazy” for thinking anything because he told me thats how I was acting. I then blocked him and unblocked him because I just kept feeling so many emotions! He texted me today and called me and asked if I blocked him because he tried to text me at one point. I told him no because I didnt wanna stir any more issues. He then texted me saying his text are going through now and i Just said ok and he said yeah strange..so I think he knows..but I let it go and didnt say anything else. Its hard for me to speak with him as if everything is happy go lucky, its hard to spend time with him now after all of this because i lack the trust of knowing about other girls or knowing where he wants to go with this.
I hope that makes sense? I am just so hurt and exhausted from all of this, I dont really know what to say or think.
Thank you
KyleeParticipantThanks Inky and Anita.
Well yes as you can see there is a pattern in how i perceive or handle relationships. Its extremely stressful and upsetting to me. I feel so alone and sad because of it and have so much anxiety. I just dont even know how to be myself right now.
My mother doesnt really talk about my dad but from the past she said he does having drinking problems and i remember this and im fully aware that he does have this issue. I know my father not being in my life or coming and going does relate deep down to maybe why im so anxious in a relationship or tolerate things that dont serve me. Yet i dont know why im drawn to keep attracting those these types of relationships. Recently, I decided to go find my dad at his job. I was successful in this and we did have a talk but he doesnt actually talk to me about why he left and this and that. I thought maybe if I try one more time that it would make a difference in how I felt, but it really didnt. It was nice to see him but i already know my relationship with my father will not be more than it is now and it does make me sad but it feels that there isnt much I can do.
Also my mother and me having a pretty good relationship, other than the fact that she doesnt really like to ever hear about my problems with relationships. She doesnt think my dad is related to my problems. I really care about my mom and we have a much better relationship than we did when i was younger. When i was younger we argued a lot and i didnt really listen to her. But since i have grown up and been living on my own our relationship has gotten a lot stronger.
As far as the condemn box i didnt bring it up.. I just asked about other girls and he said no. Because what if it was from us in the past but then its like there is no way that would just be sitting there empty from a month or two ago… It just seems so weird idk. It messes with my head. If he is in fact having sex with other people I cannot be with him, whether he admits to it or not. Its too painful and makes me feel so low about myself. He said that we arent together so we can do what we want but then he says we are together and we need to build our reltionship back up after these issues basically. But i asked him how are we supposed to build it back up if we dont discuss things or spend enough time together? He says things should naturally just happen. Which makes me so frustrated when he says that because it seems so passive. Idk.
KyleeParticipantHi Anita,
He came back again even after this last post i made. I hadnt spoken to him in weeks. But i gave in to it. We talked but something in me still senses his lack of effort or understanding. I told him what I need in order to feel secure in a reltionship and he agreed but its almost like I have to pry out of him his true feelings. I feel like he wont just talk about them with me unless I am asking question after question. He says he wants to be with me but my heart still aches so deeply? I feel like his effort is the bare minimum and i feel guilty for feeling that way because I dont mean to ever make someone appear belittled.
So yes I am still confused? His emotions towards me seem so wishy washy. Its like only at his convenience i feel. He says its not but actions show that it is. I am trying to be patient but idk how much more my heart can take. This feels so consuming of my energy but when I am not with him all i do is think about him and how much i miss him and why this or why that.
I guess I don’t know how I should move forward?
Thank you
Kylee
KyleeParticipantHello All,
I am back and still stuck on this situation. I was going to start a new thread but figured I would come back to this one as it is related. Also I do appreciate all your responses from before.
Basically after this situation occurred, I struggled a few days with deciding to reach back out to him or not. I did eventually decide to do so and he said he missed me and that the situation does bother him. I basically told him I felt he was unclear in how he expressed his emotions towards me and that he seemed unclear in what he wanted with me. He then told me that he has been hurt in past relationship and feels like he would be unreliable in a relationship. He said he would not be a good boyfriend. I responded with why would he say all this time he wanted me to be his be his girlfriend and then all of the sudden when things actually come up you dont want to commit? He said that its not that he doesnt want to be my boyfriend he said he could give me a million reasons why he wants too its just he said why would he let himself get attached like that again. Theres a little more to it but I just said if thats what you want then ok. (This was over texts) He then called me and was talked a little. Not much was resolved based on that convo more catching up and what not. We began texted as normal again and he said he missed me so much and our time together and wants to have a talk! I was happy this is what I wanted! Right? He said we would talk and then go out for the night. So then the time comes around and I said want me to head over? He said not yet my cousin isnt here yet, i said perfect we can talk first like you mentioned. He said oh we will talk through the night! I said well I feel its more appropriate to talk together before we go out because I dont want to be drinking when having this conversation. He said well we havent seen each other in a bit I feel we should go out have some fun, then we can talk. I was pretty upset over this, because I think that i deserved the time to talk! after he said we would. I totally got his point of view but at the same time, why would i wanna go out and have fun to fulfill his needs if he cant fulfill this one conversation he new i really wanted to have! But anyway i went over, i was pretty sad and it was hard to be happy and enjoy myself. I tried to explain we need to talk when i saw him face to face and he kept complimenting me and saying we will talk later but i was just like why cant we just talk now! Like you said we would. So we went out anyway and we tried to talk while we were out but wouldn’t give me his full undivided attention. I was soo friken upset the whole night. I tried to enjoy my time the best i could though. So we get back to his house (we had some drinks, this is of course not the situation i wanted at all.) But i brought things up of course and I felt like i had to make him talk to me and he told me that we are together and he wants to be with me and I brought up my concerns and he told me i overthink so much and its not healthy and i said to him, even if i am doing that ( Which based off what I told you all previously, I didnt feel I was just over thinking, I had true reasons to why i felt the way I felt.) I should be able to express myself to you and have you listen to me without it being such a struggle. anyway that was that. Next day I felt soooo regretful in how the situation played out, I felt so sad and confused even more. I didnt talk to him much that day and he asked me next day why I didnt. I said because i really didnt want to have that conversation drunk. and its upsetting me. He said dam I feel like you just want to point out the bad things in me. I said thats not true, I wanted to have a one conversation with you based off some events. Not because I ever want to make you feel bad at all! We also had plans that day and he said we would follow through and he compeltely ignored me and blew me off on them. And then I didnt answer him when he responsed wayyyyy later at night. Because to me it was such bs! Then a few days later he is like what are not talking anymore?? …. After that I felt so fed up! I was like omg I have given this person every opportunity to talk to me and communicate with me and he avoided or just didnt even try that hard to even do that, while knowing how much it would mean to me. So to make things more final and to come to some resolution of some sort I said along the lines of this: I have given you every opportunity to talk with me and you chose not too. I know in my heart that i deserve my time and feelings to be respected. If this is not a reltionship you want to build then I wish you the best. ( I said more but I cant fully remember details because I erased it all) He responded to that like two days later and said I wish you the best too. THis hurt me so deeply. I was a wreck! I know our relationship wasnt long in time wise but it meant something to me and I felt connected to him in some way and it stuck with me. But i procceeded to try and move forward by deleting him from social media, I deleted his number, blocked him off some social media. Then 3 weeks go by and i get a message on Facebook that he tried to add me back as friends and then he messaged me sayinf “Kylee!!!!” thats it!!!! Which just messes with my head so much. I didnt respond. I didnt add him back or deny I just left i be. He deleted his request from me about a week later probably becuase I didnt respond im assuming. I have been so tempted to reach out to him but Im trying to remain strong in my choice. I really miss him and im so so conflicted within my heart.
Being conflicted in my heart really interferes with other parts of my life, and affects my happiness or feeling of self worth. I try to not let it but ultimately it does. I really struggle here because my mind and others around me who care for me tell me to forget about him and move on but my heart is like well what if you just follow your heart and try. Its such a conflict and i hate it. every day im so sad over this and im so tired of feeling this way. I do things to occupy my time, I am still trying to accomplish all that I need to. I am always busy doing things so its not like I dont have distractions. Its just a deep loving connection is something that means so much to me that its so difficult to let go when i feel I have or am close to that. I also struggle with my spirituality when it comes to love, because I try to think like well if I want to reach out or if he messages me why cant i respond? Why do i feel like its wrong or that im not allowed or that it is wrong to do so?? I feel like I should just be open with my heart and spread love and what not. But then part of me is like well kylee do u want to get hurt, do you want to try again??? When the person seems to be putting minimal effort. ( I tend to make excuses for other peoples actions becuase i think well maube they have a hard time being open and honest or confrontation or whatever it may be.)
I know that this is A Lot to read and I appreciate anyone who decided too lol. Its just so hard to get all my feelings out or my ideas out typing I suppose. Heart break is so confusing, I feel so tempted to reach back out but I am trying to really hold myself back because I already tried to be as clear as possible before. So what else is there for me to say unless he were to truly intiate a conversation that would be worthy of my energy or time. I feel so consumed by this and I just dont even know how to let go fully.
Thank you
Kylee
KyleeParticipantThank you all again for your responses.
I am trying to just push forward and keep doing what I always do. I just want to trust my judgment and know that even if the relationship has ended I will heal and find someone else. I guess my mind wonders wow what if I meet someone else and I have this same type of anxiety where i express myself and then they dont accept what I have to say.
That was my deep fear and he did ignore me basically after that. Which my fear became reality. I do feel I am learning something from this because I have never been the one to truly end a relationship. I usually would stick around until the other person ended it. I have always been so nervous or scared to let go in fear of being alone. But after my last relationship I promised myself I would not settle for less than I deserve. So i think this is why I second guess myself because I am afraid that I will be less whole without love in my life. But something told me this time that I just need to do it because if I dont the same patterns will keep repeating and I truly want to move on from old patterns!
But its true, if someone wants to be with you, they will try. I feel slight guilt from ending relationship because I think wow maybe I didnt see his side of things…but thats when that old pattern of behavior comes in and makes me settle for less!! So I am trying really hard to let go of those thoughts.
I was talking to my mother and a friend and they said guys don’t like when we express ourselves in that way or put it on them. They can’t handle it or it can be a turn off.
This makes me so upset because, I just cant be in a relationship where I cant freely ask or say what I want with obviously consideration of the other persons feelings.
Anyway these are my thoughts!!!
Thank you again-Kylee 🙂
KyleeParticipantThanks Anita and Valora for responding!
Well the last girlfriend he was with he said he was with her for about 6-7 months. He told me he didn’t really feel that emotional connection with her like he does with me. He said that she was immature and not on a good path and that he doesn’t even like her! Mean while he is out here liking her photos and texting her. Which just makes me so frustrated like why go out of your way to tell me this information if you are going to continue talking to her. Sometimes I feel like guys hold on to the ex girlfriends because of a ego related thing. Its just so upsetting because he did seem interested but as soon as I tell him how I feel he can’t take the time to listen to me. I feel like in his mind he wanted to like do all these nice things together and be there for me but then like his actions wouldn’t fully match his words. I just feel like this is so ridiculous and everything could be fine but communication is a two way street and I guess I just need to accept that he isn’t wanting more or whatever. I hate that I feel insecure about this. I should be proud that I stood up for myself.
Thank you
Kylee
April 13, 2018 at 5:03 pm in reply to: Difference between being selfish and fulfilling your own needs or desires #202297KyleeParticipantThank you all for your feedback. Its super helpful and nice of you all to take the time. 🙂
KyleeParticipantI know I agree with what you both are saying. I appreciate it. I just feel awful :(. I don’t really know where to begin with talking to my friend. I tried already and she was just yelling at me and I didn’t fight it because I don’t want her to think I’m insensitive to her feelings. I feel like I don’t know how to repair her hurt because she doesn’t feel my actions meet with my words. And I also feel bad because I am sorry for hurting her but I don’t 100% regret what I shared with the guy. I’m just trying to be honest.
Thank you all.
KyleeParticipantHi Kristen,
I can’t imagine the pain this must be causing you and I’m truly sorry for that. I hope you are able to find peace with it all and can make the best decision possible. I think that you defiantly deserve someone better and someone who will be there for you no matter what. For him to go and be with another women ( let alone lie to you) especially while you are pregnant with his child, is absolutely terrible. I think he will regret his decisions soon enough. But you need to be strong enough for yourself and your children. I also agree with Anita. There is still some time to re-think it all. But follow your heart and do what you know is right.
Hope everything works out. – Kylee
KyleeParticipantSorry I have not responded. Still don’t have internet!! 🙁 lol.
I meant. My ex mother was so happy to see us and be going on this trip. She was welcoming and friendly. But My ex he just seemed like he didnt want to be bothered. I felt unwanted by him when i was there. I tried to bring it up to him but he just hardly says much and still doesnt act any different. It makes me feel pushed away and hurt, because here I am trying so hard to be communicating with him and open and trying to meet his family. Since we broke up.. He has tried to talk to me a few times but i just havent really said much because i feel hes only talk to me out of his own satisfaction. If that makes sense?
My anxiety has been better since we broke up.. But i often feel whenever im in a relatiopship i get such bad anxiety. I always fear the person will leave me or that im not enough for them. I try to be the best girlfriend I can be so that I dont end up feeling that way but I am usually left feel unappreciated or drained. Its very hard to find balance in a relationship for me. But I just desire close connections and love so much. I feel very alone in this mind set. I’m trying hard to just go with the flow of things…but I dont know I feel very confused.
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