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I can’t seem to edit this morning! Helcat, I meant to say, when people are hurting badly, struggling and going through a learning and evolving process, something may be said that’s interpreted as one thing, when in fact it is more about defending. Learning wisdom can also involve (and this is a poor descriptive term, I can’t find another one just now!) being stronger until the ease of being more relaxed is learnt by the soul.
Rather than being defensive, both souls could be kind.Lindsey62ParticipantEveryone, I have no idea about all that is going on, but Helcat I will say that I didn’t see a reference to the conversation between yourself and Anita on this particular thread, here.
I have to take care of my own mental health, and posted on here originally because of the poster who was being bullied by a woman and she wanted to know how to get out of that situation.
I think it’s important to be kind. We all of us go through things, and sometimes those things are difficult. There are times in life when we need to gently say “this needs my compassion and understanding”.
That doesn’t mean we can’t be honest or say what we think, but the moment must always be chosen with thought and a desire to enrich the world generally. These are just my thoughts. I will probably bow out of this thread now. I wish everyone well, please take care 🙂
Lindsey62ParticipantDear Anita,
I do fully agree that the affects of bullying can last for a long time or even for ever. In the post I was responding to, I meant to suggest that sometimes situations alter so that people can move away, distance themselves, and in life this can happen naturally (people go to college, uni, get jobs etc). Over time, bullying can sometimes stop or go away.
Each situation is so different, and I think many of us have been bullied at some time in our lives, either by other children, or by family or other people, for example, at work. I read once about a woman who even now suffers not so much at what people did to her, but because no-one stood up for her. That post broke my heart to read, so it must be even harder for her. She is working through it and I’m so glad, because I think bullying can kill a person’s spirit over the years…
“I will say the same thing to myself right now: I am strong, and I can do this!”
I’m glad 🙂
- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by Lindsey62.
Lindsey62ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you 🙂 It’s nice not to have any pressure. I can’t always be on the computer as often as I’d like. I intended to reply to the OP but was tired at that time, so decided to wait until the next day. The thread was removed by her, before I was able to give any thought or input.
I have what are really random thoughts. That these difficult situations don’t last for ever, and that we find a way through. It’s good to practice what to say, if the bully gets in touch, because it’s less likely then to be in a flustered or upset state. I think someone mentioned this on another post. Practice over and over, to give yourself courage. It might be an idea to take up a physical sport or pasttime that could be a protector.
Perhaps use a mantra word or saying. I have ptsd and I was helped a lot, going past a place of memory, to say to myself “I am strong and I can do this”. I felt a surge of energy and was able to pass the place. It felt good.
It can help to walk in Nature. Find trees.
Perhaps also, imagine what you might say to a friend in such a situation. I find that can sometimes be useful.Finally, there’s nothing wrong (in my book) about experiencing anger. A person is doing hurtful things, so don’t become an “echo” of yourself: what about your life, and what you feel or need? Sometimes we need to put ourselves first to keep ourselves safe and not wither away. This may involve removing ourselves from toxic people.
So those are my rambling thoughts.
Lindsey62ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m sorry I’ve not been able to return earlier, I wanted to post with careful wording.
” I base my replies to a member on what the member shares. I put a lot of work and time reading what a member shares, re-reading it, re-typing it in my way, and coming to my best understanding for the time being. Every time I receive new information from a member, I re-read the old information and integrate the old and the new, to form an improved understanding”
Understood. It’s important to have a good understanding, and that can take time to form in the mind. It can take hard work to comprehend what others are writing about.
I agree that B’s focus was on the bullying, the bully had upset her very much. Part of that upset was about the bully being so forceful, that B was in a situation where she felt upset that she’d not felt able to stand up for her father (in other words, keep the topic about the loss of her father, and not what the bully was talking insensitively about, which was her supposedly wonderful life). That tells me that B was raw about her loss.
Parental behaviour absolutely should be discussed, if not too difficult or raw, but people should have choices, as I’m sure you agree. I can’t recall what B’s actual question was – I think she asked for tips on how to handle such a situation.
Regarding the changes in the story, I can totally see how this occurs. Especially when people are stressed or upset. I’ve done it myself. In wanting to convey what happens, it’s not always possible (for a variety of reasons) to explain in detail or to explain why one minute something is so, but it can also be another way, maybe a few weeks or days later, or a month or year later. It can take so much effort to go into the detail, and it can be impossible to work out in a stressed mind. It looks like contradiction, but may simply be someone attempting to convey all the things that happened. It doesn’t mean it’s not a true account.
I do think this is a common type of bullying and it should be talked about more.
I also hope that it helps people to discuss or even just to think about such bullying. It was kind to start a thread about it.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by Lindsey62.
Lindsey62ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m sorry to read that your mother’s behaviour towards you was full of harsh intention. Sometimes a narcissistic mother will behave in this manner and it can be devastating for the child. Was there a reason your mother behaved this way, do you know?
Intention to hurt is something that should be talked about more.Referring back to the other thread, I was concerned that B was told that her parents might be weak. We don’t know the full situation of other people. Also people can be grieving. It is hard to be told that, which might not be correct, when a parent has just died. I think it felt to her as if the bullying was being put on her shoulders and that her parents let her down. Perhaps that’s why the thread was deleted.
I hope it’s ok to be honest.
Lindsey62ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m not in a situation like this, thankfully. I’ve had that poster on my mind though.
Lindsey62ParticipantDear Anita,
Thanks for explaining, as I was confused about where the topic was. I understand now.
I think that separating from a person, when they are insistent on knowing you, can be hard, difficult. It must be harder if that person is a bully, because of the mental control they have.
Lindsey62ParticipantHello Sharon,
I agree that you do sound depressed. Something you said – about struggling with daily tasks – that’s often a sign of depression.
It might help to go visit your doctor. But you may find some groups local to you that you can join, even online. Perhaps Covid has been a part of it?
Motivation is really hard sometimes.
Lindsey62ParticipantI think this was a post I wanted to respond to, but I am probably on a different timeline. Hence my trying to find it this morning and it not being there. Can I ask if this was about someone around 20 years of age? And a lifelong bully who would not let her go? I’m trying to work out if this is in connection with the post I read, as I didn’t think the other one was in Parenting.
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