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Miniature BodhisattvaParticipant
Healing is rarely a linear process – and even after we heal it doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t occasionally feel sad about the end of a relationship. I remember when I was a younger, I was in the back seat of my family car and a song came on the radio. My mom started to tear up. “What’s wrong Mommy?” I asked. “Oh, nothing dear,” she replied. Years later she confided to me that was a song an ex-boyfriend loved. (Note, she’s been happily married to my dad for 35+ years.) She opened up about it because one day wailed about some guy who I was having trouble getting over and she used it to illustrate that while you do eventually move on, it doesn’t mean that you never think (or have feelings) about that person ever again.
anita is right that something probably set this off – like hearing a song – which is again, very normal. She’s also wise to council that you examine why you feel “regret”. Are you possibly just mistaking that for some other emotion (like loneliness)?
My advice is to embrace the feelings and let them flow through you. Like the final coughing fits you have before getting over the flu, these emotions will pass.
July 15, 2016 at 12:35 am in reply to: Perspectives would be appreciated! Having lots of trouble getting over breakup. #109706Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantHi Allison,
You just described my last serious relationship! So I may have some insights that will hopefully be helpful:
I think the experience of falling for someone you weren’t initially interested in – and then have said person go and reject you – can be quite bewildering. I did some brutally honest self reflection I came up with a couple of very important realizations:
1) I settled – it’s not that I was “better” than him (I wasn’t – and he was actually a very handsome/accomplished man), but it was that he lacked a lot of qualities I was looking for in a partner (emotionally mature, healthy communication, sexual compatibility, etc.).
2) There was just enough compatibility / interest to keep the relationship alive, but not enough for it to flourish – it was like a houseplant that needed full sunlight but was in a shaded corner…sure it still had all its leaves, but it never grew no matter how much you water or fertilizer you used
3) The reason why I entered into the couple was I thought it was the best I could do and I was lonely – that was the most sobering.Now, the good news was after I did this I knew what went wrong and I started the personal work to fix it. It’s still an on going process, but very healing.
Another thing that helped was cutting myself some slack. It’s really a challenge for most people to not be drawn to someone who ardently pursues them. It’s very flattering to down right seductive! Plus, in someways I applauded myself for rolling the dice and taking a chance on the guy. Too many people are at the other end of the spectrum when it comes to dating, being extra picky and demanding people hit every checkbox on their list of traits they want in a mate – “oh, he’s 5’11”, I only date people over 6 feet tall”, etc.
Finally, just because the person “rejected” you (I use quotes, because in reality he just finally saw what you in your bones knew all along – you weren’t a good fit – and he freed you), isn’t a reflection on your worth, your desirability, etc. It’s easy to fall into the trap of being, “he pursued me so much in the beginning and then went stone cold in the end – what did I do?” The reality is many people (of both genders, but men especially), love the thrill of the chase, and once they caught the object of their affection and the high wears off, they then start asking, “huh, well, is this person really right for me?” The guy should’ve asked those questions *before* he went after you! I’d be willing to bet he repeats a similar pattern until through dumb luck he finally pairs up with someone who’s a match. Problem is, in the process he never gains the tools (like introspection) to sustain a relationship. I’d also be willing to bet if you hadn’t starting putting his feet to the fire and pointing out issues, he may have been just fine allowing thing to keep coasting along…which is sad if you think about it!
Well, I hope that provides you with some comfort / food for thought. I want to assure you the pain does go away. Be kind to yourself, and I have no doubt you’ll get through this *and* be stronger as a result.
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Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantHopefull33,
BTW, I neglected to mention the epilogue to my story – my ex and his soon-to-be wife moved away to another city. I mention this as a reminder that life is impermanent. Big cities are especially fluid…people seem to always be coming in and going. So this fella and the Mrs. may not be around much longer to potentially run into.
One final actionable item you might want to consider – open your heart to the possibility that this *won’t* be difficult. There’s a Cherokee (they’re a Native American tribe if you’re not from the States) parable of two wolves. In it a grandfather is telling his grandchild about how there are two wolves inside of each of us – one representing goodness and strength, the other anger and fear – fighting for control. The grandchild asks, “which one wins grandfather?” The grandfather replies, “the one you feed.” So do your best not to “feed” the wolf that thinks this will be a challenge. Instead, feed the wolf that represents your success by repeating positive mantras of “this is going to work out” and “I’m strong!” (Or whatever resonates with you.)
Good luck on your journey, whatever you may decide!
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Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantHello Hopeful33!
I went through a situation similar to yours (minus the moving part), so I know how difficult can be being in the same city where memories haunt you around every corner. Here are somethings I did that helped me cope:
1) Try to at least move to a neighborhood of the city that has the fewest triggers
2) Explore new clubs, restaurants, etc. that you never went to with your ex (I’m sure there are at least a few places that they didn’t want to go to or weren’t in existence last time you were there)
3) Forge new friendships (this not to say dump the old ones, but it can be helpful to have people who now know only the post-breakup version of you) – you’ll be less tempted to rehash “old times”
4) Remind yourself you have as much right to be there as your ex
5) Mentally prepare yourself for the possibility of bumping into any mutual acquaintances or the ex. You just want to have a game plan/script in your head ready. Top athletes visualize a successful race before they hit the track, down to what shoes they’ll wear. While you won’t necessarily have complete control of the situation should it arise, it won’t be as big of a shock to system since you’ve played it out in your head.
6) If you do have get emotional, forgive yourself and say, “OK, that happened…now I’m one step closer to being healed!” And let it go.Hope those help! Based on what you wrote it sounds like you’re handling everything very maturely and with grace. Clearly the universe is calling you back to this city for a reason. If I were a gambling woman, I’d bet that this a step you need to take find peace and that you’ll soon recover your inner strength before you know it. The more you experience and do the more the old memories and feeling will be pushed out by new ones. Soon you’ll stop thinking of the place as “where I met (Ex’s Name)” but “where I met (new person) and did (awesome activity)”.
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Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantGreat now I have Brittney Spears stuck in my head! 🙂
My goodness, sounds like you have a lot going on, and it’s no doubt overwhelming. There have been times in my life where it seemed like everything was falling apart too. The only thing that helped pull me through these difficult seasons was 1) repeating the words my grandmother loved to say to us, “this too shall pass” (very wise…everything is impermanent…I think she was a secret Buddhist!) 2) taking on one issue at a time (this can sometimes take great discipline – you may need to mentally compartmentalize things for later) and 3) ask for help! It’s rare that anyone can tackle job changes, martial strains, issues with parents, etc. on their own. Talk to friends or a therapist. Support is so important. Quite honestly I would make reaching out to someone first on your to-do list.
Glad you were able to rant, and I hope what I had to say helped or provided comfort.
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Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantJessica,
Don’t worry about the length of your post. You were actually quite concise! And it’s not stupid either. These type of experiences seem very common in the dating world, so please show yourself some compassion and give yourself loving messages. Friends with benefit situations are fraught with emotional landmines because they so rarely have clearly defined rules/expectations.
Now, I’m of the opinion that regardless of what arrangement/relationship with an individual (platonic friend, committed monogamous romantic partnership, etc.) that you *always* have the right to speak up when the other person is doing something that is hurtful. The fact that he gets mad and defensive when you bring up things that bother you is, in my opinion, a red flag. (Doubly so because he doesn’t apologize afterwards.)
I encourage you to re-evaluate if you want someone in your life who doesn’t treat your with the utmost respect. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be hard to cut ties…sounds like he has a lot of positive attributes and he definitely has a connection with you…but if he’s not showing you basic courtesies like finishing a conversation, it may be healthier for you in the long run to let him go.
Best of luck to you! I hope my words help!
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Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantThank you anita for the follow up note! Your words have brought me a lot of comfort.
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantHi Norg!
One of the best books I’ve read on dating/love is “If the Buddha Dated” by Charlotte Kasl. In it she suggests when we’re scared to do this exercise – take what your fear to its most logical conclusion. It works like this…
“I’m scared of getting hurt again.”
What would happen if it did?
“I’d cry for days.”
Then what?
“I’d never date again.”
Then what?
“I’d be alone.”
Then what?
“I’d be lonely.”
Then what?
“I’d want to call my friend.”
Then what?You get the idea. Eventually you break down it down into bite sized pieces and it’s no longer so overwhelming, and you can think about it with a clear mind.
I don’t know if that helps, but when I read your message I thought of that. Only other words I leave you with is don’t let possible worst case scenarios dictate your life. Someone once said, “I regret the things I haven’t done, more than the things I have.” You don’t know what will happen. You may fall out of love…or it may last until your dying day! Who knows!
Sending loving kindness your way.
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantThank you anita and Inky for taking the time to answer my question! I really do appreciate it.
Inky: I’m so sorry you had to go through a similar experience. You’re kind to say I’m more “evolved”, but I assure you that’s not the case. While I did go back to the temple (and on the trip we had scheduled, just by myself), it wasn’t always necessarily out of a place of strength, but sometimes more from a fear of regret. (By the way, I don’t think anyone should blame themselves for avoiding a place that brings back painful memories. We all heal in our own ways!)
anita: You are right that all of this, difficult as it may be, is a huge opportunity to grow and learn. I did scare him off with my tears, and it showed me how I still have a ways to go in learning to control my emotions and show more equanimity when I’m upset.
July 9, 2016 at 6:50 pm in reply to: Bf cheated on me for 2 years, now acts like he wants me back. #109258Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantOh Lyla, I’m so sorry! What a mind f**k (pardon me, I can’t think of my delicate way to put it).
I’ll echo anita’s advice of getting in touch with a therapist or other mental health professional. Maybe join a support group of women who’ve gone through something similar. The scars (both of body and mind) of a physically abusive relationship most often need serious treatment. I encourage you every-time you’re tempted to feel sorry for him to instead channel those energies and thoughts inward instead – start brainstorming what your need to get through this. It will be a challenge to do all that mental unpacking, but it will be so worth it!
Finally – and this should go without saying – if this dude reaches out to you again, firmly tell him not to contact you ever again. If it escalates and he becomes violent again, get the police involved. Change your phone #. Move. Do what you have to do to protect yourself.
Otherwise, take good care of yourself. Go see a funny movie, spend time with those that care about you, get a mani/pedi…whatever! Self care is the best prescription for withdrawals!
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantPriscilla,
First off, you are not alone in your feelings of discontent RE: corporate culture. This is why comics like “Dilbert” and movies like “Office Space” are so popular. We spend the majority of our waking hours at work, so it’s natural if you see the same toxic people day in and day out it would wear on you.
Who knows what prompted this man’s behavior. It wasn’t professional. I’m not excusing that. However, in the dog eat dog world of the cubicle jungle the best way to move on is either 1) accept this is how he is and interact with him as little as possible 2) talk to him about what happened in a non confrontational manner, trying to probe as to why he kept putting you off (“hey, can I talk to you for a moment? When I asked for your help the other day with a couple issues, you kept referring me to the guidebook. While I realize that’s a value resource, I wanted your input. Did I interrupt you during something important? If I need additional clarification would it be better to reach out via email?” etc.) I found this approach very effective with difficult colleagues as it calls them out but also with the angle of trying to find a win-win resolution. I would avoid bringing bosses in to deal with this guy if you can help it – unless he’s doing something illegal management usually doesn’t want to play referee to in office infighting. Plus it makes you look weak in their eyes.
Best off luck!
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantFeist fan?
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantLaure, I’m so sorry this individual didn’t respond to your text. Since I don’t know all the details of your relationship with this person, I hesitate to advise you on what to do or guess what may of happened. What I do feel comfortable saying is that anybody who is traveler and thinks to *paint* somebody on card on the road sounds like a pretty awesome friend who deserves equally high-quality people in their life! Yup, you’re the bees knees and I hope you meet others that would be giddy at the thought of getting any type of correspondence from you!
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantComa, you mentioned you just had a baby, did the symptoms you describe start then? It may be related to (Disclaimer: I’m not a doctor) postpartum depression/anxiety, which is quite common. Like previous posters said above, absolutely consult a professional right away! There’s no shame in asking for help.
Also, if you haven’t already, let friends and family know you’re just going through a tough time and need some space. I’m sure they’re worried about you! When you’re up to it, and ready to see them, don’t be shy in saying, “hey, I can’t do (insert activity name here), but I’d love to schedule a phone date (or whatever you’re comfortable doing). Depending on how close you are with them, I bet they’d be willing to help with housework, bring you a meal, or watch your newborn while you get caught up on stuff.
Sending much love and light your way!
Miniature BodhisattvaParticipantFirst off, big virtual hug across the interwebs! It’s not easy letting go of someone you care about.
Is it possible she’ll come back? Sure, anything is possible. My parents got back together after a breakup and have been married for 35+ years. That being said, it is also possible they won’t return. Back when I was in college, my first love broke up with me unexpectedly. As cried buckets of tears, I wailed to my roommate, “will we get back together?” She gently replied something I’ll never forget, “I don’t know…but listen, even if that’s what you want, you have to live your life like you *won’t*. That way, if you don’t reunite, then you’ve gotten a head start on the healing process…and if you do get back together, then it will be a delightful surprise!” I still to this day think there’s a lot of truth in that advice.
I never got back together with that fella, but I did heal and went on to have other loving relationships.
In answer to your final question, “How do you truly let go if you are hoping they will come back?” in my opinion is you can’t. And you know what? That’s OK! As you work through the grieving process your grip on those ties that bind your heart to her will get looser and eventually you’ll let go.
Best of luck to you! Practice great self care and be kind to yourself.
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