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February 10, 2017 at 12:26 pm in reply to: Late twenties life crisis or something like that… #127204RamoneJosephParticipant
Hi Beebop,
Ah, to be 28 again… I imagine the things I would change and do better a second time around, but unfortunately that’s not the way it works. You’ve got a lot on your plate it would seem, but in actuality you only really have one thing to worry about. What makes you happy? What fulfills you and gives your life value?
Let’s break it down. You quit your old job for a new job. The old job paid better, but you enjoy the new job more. A new job might pay more, but it may not be as satisfying. So, ask yourself, what’s more important to you and your happiness, and that’s completely up to you. Sometimes life just isn’t fair and you don’t get to have both things you want i.e. fun job AND good pay, so it’s up to you to decide which is more important for the time being and roll with it. The main thing is that life is not static, so what ever you “settle” for right now can be absolutely okay while you continue along your path and wait for or create new opportunities for yourself.
Are money and material things really that important? Look at the society of consumers we’ve become, always spending and acquiring new stuff. Take a long hard look at all of your own stuff. How much of it do you really need? Does it make you happy? I’d say sort through your things once, really decide if these things are things you need to be happy. The stuff you need, you keep and treasure, the stuff you don’t, you sell and use the money for happiness, maybe it’ll add up to enough to get started on that baby you’re not all too sure about…
Speaking of that baby, again, will it make you happy and enrich your life, and are you and your partner prepared to meet the happiness and enrichment needs of a little one? If so, go for it, if not, pets are always a nice alternative to paying for college tuition…
Creativity? Are you an artist? I am. I paint and I write, and it’s the same for all of us. We like to call it a block or lack of inspiration, but do you know what it really is? Laziness! If you depended on your craft to feed you like you do your job, you’d be at it every day! Creativity is like a muscle, and if we neglect it, it gets weak, and it gets sore if we try to use it again. Make yourself paint or write, or whatever at least for a few minutes every day! You’ll notice it gets easier, and your art will get better, and it won’t feel nearly as tedious after awhile.
You’re not trapped, you’re just living, and sometimes it’s amazing, and sometimes it’s pure hell…
wishing you peace and health,
RamoneRamoneJosephParticipantHey LFF,
I forget who recommended this book,
https://7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf
But it was a good read and gave me a lot of perspective on the issues I have with creating meaningful relationships with friends and partners…
wishing you well,
RamoneJanuary 18, 2017 at 1:08 pm in reply to: Ex- My child's father emotionally stringing me along. #125659RamoneJosephParticipantHi Kaynah,
In your first post you mentioned two very important words “gaslighting” and “manipulation”. Also I’m seeing other signs that you are being “love bombed” and subjected to the “silent treatment”. These are all classic techniques of a person with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Dealing with a narc can be extremely challenging and most professionals suggest adopting no-contact. Unfortunately for you, you have to maintain some contact because of your mutual child. This makes it very difficult and your narc ex knows this. I’ve been dealing with my narc ex since last February and we have two children together, so I know what you’re going through. Narcs also have a way of breaking us down over time to the point where we as empaths we become dependent on them through trauma bonding. It’s almost an addiction to that person where we gave up ourselves and put all of our happiness into pleasing them and loving them. When they go, it destroys us and we’re willing to do almost anything to get them back. This is where the back and forth game starts. They come back over and over because we’re an easy source of narcissistic supply. Do a little research on narcissism and co dependency. I wouldn’t be surprised if you see your entire story played out before your eyes…
Wishing you well, we’re all in this together!
RamoneRamoneJosephParticipantLeigh,
it’s a horrible feeling to feel unloved and unwanted. I find myself craving any sort of relationship sometimes just to not feel the loneliness. But you can’t let your happiness be defined by this! Does it feel horrible? Yes!!! I laid in bed for probably 16 hours yesterday because I didn’t want to face the world. No motivation, no joy, no hope… Like Anita said, sometimes you just have to feel that way. It’s a process. There aren’t any quick fixes. Some things will offer encouragement and a respite from the pain, and it’s hit or miss. Sometimes the gym feels amazing and other times you can’t clear your head to even think about exercising. Do what you feel. Happiness is an amazing thing and what we all strive to have constantly, but there is no escaping the rest of our feelings and we are all challenged with sadness, loneliness, anxiety and fear at different times in our lives… You will wish it would just kill you so you don’t have to feel the pain, but it doesn’t, you live, you survive… You’ll come out on the other side someday, new scars and wisdom. Just keep trying to cope whenever you can find the strength, and if you can’t, don’t beat yourself up about it. Be kind to yourself, sleep, heal, talk, read, write, meditate, breath…
good luck, you’re not alone,
RamoneRamoneJosephParticipantHi Phillip,
You can’t convince someone else to do something they are unsure of. I know right now that youre feelings and your heart are controlling your thought processes and basically screaming at you to try to explain things to her about how you want to change and work on things to improve your relationship and keep her. The problem is that it just doesn’t work that way. She wants time and space to figure herself out and there’s nothing you can do to speed up the process of her doing so. I know it sucks! I’m right there with you… What you do need to do is to take this time and actually work on yourself. Improve as a man. Find out why you react to disagreements with yelling, and fix it. Work on yourself mentally and physically. Exercise, meditate, read, and grow. It will make you more well rounded and more attractive, and when she is ready she may see your improvements and rekindle her attraction to you. Don’t rush, don’t force, don’t be clingy and needy… all these are mistakes that we make that repel instead of attract. Hang in there, it’s tough, and there are always days that feel like absolute hell and you want to lose your resolve. It may or may not work out, but anything you do to improve yourself will stay with you no matter the outcome of your relationship with her…
Ramone
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RamoneJosephParticipantFazc and Snowy,
You have both been helpful in proving something I know now from trying to deal with my own recent break up. This type of thing happens all the time and everywhere! I felt amazing Wednesday night when she messaged me out of the blue and we texted back and forth for a couple of hours. Nothing was said about our relationship and it felt really good at first, but by the end of the evening it just felt like I was in the friend zone and she was easing her conscience for hurting me… No contact at all yesterday, and it made me feel quite miserable until last night. I’m slowly experiencing bouts of clarity though, where I realize that these one sided feelings are senseless and will lead me absolutely nowhere. I feel stronger then and can actually function for a little bit. We can’t just expect an over night recovery, time will truly heal us. Nothing is impossible, and I still hope everyday that she’ll be back, but I’m also slowly realizing and preparing myself for the possibility that she won’t. I love her, and I’ll wait for her, but I’m making it my decision because it would make me happy, and it will ultimately fall to me to decide when enough is enough. I wish you both the best in weathering your heartache. You’re not alone…
Ramone
RamoneJosephParticipantfazc,
I know what you’re feeling. I’m doing it too. I lost my GF three weeks ago after she said she needed time to work on her own issues. She told me she loved me even as she was telling me she couldn’t continue our relationship, and has even told me since that she still loves me, but we’re still apart and there’s no way of knowing if she’ll be back… The pain is excruciating at times, and I’ve fallen into much of what you’ve described: loss of motivation, no appetite, feeling like I’m neglecting those around me, obsessing, overthinking, anxiety attacks, etc. etc…. My advice is to let yourself feel like shit! This really hurts and the pain is real!!! So allow yourself to feel bad. You’re going to feel bad because you’ve experienced a loss, and it’s okay to hurt. It’s normal, it’s natural, it would be messed up if you didn’t feel bad about losing your love. The next step, and it’s the one I’m struggling with is to focus and regain control. Right now I find myself consciously controlling my breathing to alleviate panic attacks during the day. I’m teaching myself to meditate and purposely push away my anxiety. I tell myself that I love myself, even though I may not really feel it sometimes. I force myself to the gym, or to do artwork, or to be with friends and family. Right now every day seems to be without purpose, but I’m trying to nibble little pieces of peace out of each new day and hope that the next will be just a little better. Don’t rush yourself, and don’t expect too much too soon. We’re like addicts recovering from this love that we had and it’s a process that sucks so bad, but I know if I can do this, so can you!
Ramone
RamoneJosephParticipantSo, essentially you’re saying to consciously take back personal control of my life one little step at a time.
RamoneJosephParticipantHi Anita,
I’m just hoping that someone with more insight or a similar experience can point me in the right direction, but I understand what you mean. It’s codependent for me to want someone else to confirm and guide me.
1. My day usually begins waking up around 5:30, get ready for work, leave the house around 6:20
2. 10 Minute commute to work
3. Clock in before 6:45, begin my work day
4. Attempt to work… I am so preoccupied and unmotivated that I struggle to do my job. Constantly distracted by my thoughts and feelings. lots of anxiety
5. try to eat lunch, I can tell my mental state is messing with my appetite.
6. Finish work around 3:15
7. drive home
8. struggle to do house hold chores and anything else. I forced myself to go out last night and meet friends, but I just don’t feel right and they sense it too. I’m not much fun to be around
9. think, and overthink, and worry, until I’m exhausted and go to bed. I’ve been self medicating with alcohol, which calms me, but is also obviously a depressant.RamoneJosephParticipantThanks for your reply Adam,
I absolutely understand what you mean by being myself on my own time. Fixing myself based on my own needs and the amount of time it takes for me instead of worrying about this relationship. It’s just very difficult to concentrate at the moment because I am still very much in love with her. I don’t think that the holidays are helping, and to top it off, my narcissistic ex wife is back on my phone trying to suck me into her drama and need for narcissistic supply. I should revel in my ability to be alone and find my own center, and happiness, but none of this is helping. Seriously? I’m a fucking wreck with no self value, and I feel like drinking myself into a coma and sleeping every day just to escape this pain… And that’s not me!!!! I’ve survived so much shit and always come out better in the end, but I’m just so beat down now… I just keep asking why I fight my way through all this hell just to feel so much pain again and again?
I’m trying,
RamoneRamoneJosephParticipantThanks Anita,
I value your input and advice. I’m struggling with this. It’s hard to work through this because it’s the first real love I’ve felt since my divorce. I was very hopeful…
Ramone
RamoneJosephParticipantAnita,
I think she’s being very upfront and honest with me. She tells me she loves me very much and it’s difficult for her not to just give into what she wants, but that she just doesn’t feel healthy at the moment. She wouldn’t continue to tell me that she loves me if she really wanted to break up… I think she’s very emotionally confused right now, and I should give her the space she’s asking for to figure it out for sure. I think I should take the time to clear my head a little too. I’ve become quite obsessive with the whole situation. I guess it’s kind of the old “if you love someone” thing… If it’s right, she’ll be back, if not, well it wasn’t meant to be. I just wonder how things should be in the meantime? Should I go no contact and give her total space, or should I maintain some sort of relationship?
Thanks,
RamoneRamoneJosephParticipantAnita,
Thanks for the reply. I get what you’re saying, and in my own case I felt like being in a loving relationship would be an asset for both of us, but I was worried that it was my codependency that was steering me to feel like I need her. I don’t want to pressure her in any way. She says that she doesn’t love herself enough to appreciate and accept the love that I give her, and she insists that it’s something she has to do alone. She’s told me about her trust issues since her ex cheated on her multiple times and he also trashed her self esteem by making her feel ugly and unwanted. How do I go about approaching her with a suggestion that we work together? I don’t want to be needy and chase after her.
Ramone
RamoneJosephParticipantHi Johanna,
I’d be very interested in participating if you still have a spot available.
Thanks!
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