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ParticipantI often think that ….
I am the ephemeral seeking the eternal.
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Participant[quote quote=432217]Thanks Anita, I still lurk but don’t usually have anything to add, I noticed that I tend to repeat myself 🙂 “we have many things, don’t we, but we don’t get to keep any” The Sravka path beings with a realization that everything is impermanent, the final realization and acceptance that nothing arises in the first place; hence nothing ceases. Impermanence is a fiction. 🙂 Nothing gained nothing lost, nothing to keep, we have it all. (Fun with paradox) Nicely said Helcat[/quote]
Well said!
.. john
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ParticipantHi Anita,
Yes, I too have read that shinnen can have several interpretations. At the time of my affirmation, I was told that shinnen means ‘true mind’. According to him ‘shin’ means true or faithful and ‘nen’ refers to state of mind. The full name is actually
Shakushinnen, (the Shaku referring to the ‘orginal’ Buddha Shakyamuni) but I was told not to use the full name, only shinnen, because using the full name would be pretentious/presumptuous, something of that sort, I’m not really clear on that.
Yes, of course, Jodu Shinshu is a Japanese Buddhist sect, but that’s whole other story.
….. john
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ParticipantAnother plaque in our kitchen says,
“Dear diet,
Things are not going to work out between us. It’s not me; it’s YOU.
You’re tasteless, and boring, and I can’t stop cheating on you.”
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ParticipantHi,
Yes, it’s quite true, isn’t it. We may be unique as a species in that regard. But in order to feel self pity, one
must feel that they’re a victim, that someone, or something, is responsible for their misfortune;
whereas most of the time we cause our own suffering. This is not a condemnation, just my observation
that, for the most part, I suffer because of my reaction to events, and people, and my general misinterpretation
of reality. The bird doesn’t think about what’s causing it’s pain, but we do, there-in lies the problem.
My wife has a plaque in the kitchen which says, “Pain is inevitable, suffering … optional” It’s hard to swallow, and
not easy to live by, but there’s more than a grain of truth in it.
….. john
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ParticipantHi Helcat,
I’ve had many very good teachers. I’ve been very lucky.
Yes, I think bhante Kovida embodies the true spirit of the Theravadin teachings.
After birth relationships can be very stressful, so many emotions/expectations, often
ones we never expected, right out of the blue. It can be very jarring.
I guess if there’s any up side, at all, to these upsets, it’s that they force us to re-evaluate, maybe rediscover, what’s
REALLY important to us. I wouldn’t presume to have anything useful to contribute to your problems with your hubby,
that’s probably a VERY complex stew.
I think that we all expect, unconsciously or not, that others share our values; and upon realizing that that’s not the case, it can be ‘surprising’ to say the least.
My wife and I are polar opposites (emotionally) and often see things very differently. You can imagine, a Catholic being
married to a Buddhist. However, we love each other very much. She is my best friend, and always sticks by me, so, 57 years later …… But, as I said in a previous post, I’ll know when things are off the rails by the saltiness of my food 😉
….. john
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ParticipantCan I quote the last line from Matthew Arnold’s Dover Beach.
The first sentence “Ah, love let us be true to one another!” is really the conclusion.
“Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.”shinnen
ParticipantHi Helcat/Anita,
I apologize for posting on the same subject twice. If I had realized that there were three pages on this subject I would have gone to the last page and seen that my previous post had been accepted. Live and learn :-). I was affirmed into the sect many years ago; my sensei gave me the name Shinnen. I only go there about once a year now, to attend Hanamatsuri, the Buddha’s birthday celebration. The temple is a very special place for me. I feel like I’m going home; where I can be with people who share the same aspirations and ways. Normally I feel like a fish out of water, but there …. I’m at peace. I have had a long history in Theravadin, Mahayana, and zen Buddhism, and it’s been a very interesting, and often challenging trip. I’m glad that you find my thoughts interesting. It’s helpful for me to be able to express them with other inquiring minds.
…… john
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ParticipantWhat am I grateful for? The short answer is … pretty much everything. Years ago, I came across a very simple way of living called ‘Gassho’.
It is practiced, or more correctly ‘lived by’, most Jodo Shinshu followers; who live in a state gratefulness for what they have. The beauty of it
is that, over time one becomes less and less obsessed with ‘getting more’; a mentality that most of us having been born into an affluent materialist society accept as normal. For me, it was a revelation; but in order to live by it, I had to find a way of engraining it into my way of living. This wasn’t as difficult as it might seem, as a few minutes of reflection clearly reminded me of the many blessing that have been bestowed on me over my life time: the many friends and familty that support me, the benefits of living in a free country with all kinds of social benefits, the opportunities I have had throughout my life, good health, good food, the list is pretty much endless. But, the key to living by this realization lies in constantly reminding oneself (a few mintes each day) of them. Without that practice, it’s simply another good idea, a revelation, which will eventually fade from memory, lost in time; as so many revelations have.
…. johnshinnen
ParticipantHi all,
For me, the short answer is ‘everything’. One of the practices I’ve found helpful over the years is something call ‘Gassho’.
The premise of the practice is that, as humans, we constantly desire: something more, somewhere else, to be with someone else, to be thinking something else, to be someone else, to be feeling something else, to be doing something else. It seems to be our nature, as humans, to be discontent. All of this wishing causes us to forget what we already have, and to be thankful for that. It is recommended to start each day by taking a couple of minutes in recalling as many things as one think of, for which they have to be thankful. For those who suffer from depression or other inflictions, this might be quite a challenge; but for many, it can serve to remind us of the blessings we already have.
…… john
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ParticipantWell, that being the case, I will quote Kierkegaard, “Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.”
and … the signature of woman who frequented a forum I was on years ago …….
‘Life is NOT about seeking shelter from the storms; life is about learning to dance in the rain.”
…. john
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ParticipantHi Brian,
It sounds counter intuitive, but I think that positive is, for the most part, ‘not negative’; and by that I mean not
harmful to you. Your mind will at times tell you things that are not conducive to your
well being. Some of these thoughts make perfect sense, but will not contribute to a positive outlook.
Years ago, I got caught up in the somewhat common belief that, ‘we’re all going to die in the end; so why do anything; it will all end in death. What’s the point?’ On the surface this seems pretty accurate, but embracing this belief is not good, and may even lead to depression, as it did to me. The point is that our thoughts aren’t always our friend.
Think about installing a little man (or woman) at the door to your mind, who examines thoughts as they come along, and bars entry to the harmful ones, ‘Nope you can’t come in here.’ It takes some practice, but will eventually become second nature. It’s not exactly positive thinking, but I think it helps.
…. john
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ParticipantHi Helcat,
Are you only looking for inspirations that have already been added on the forum?
… john
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ParticipantHi anita,
Thanks for your thoughts. I haven’t replied, because I really don’t have anything meaningful to add.
…. john
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ParticipantHi Helcat,
Stories about the monks? Well, they taught me the value of observing my thoughts and life, dispassionately and uncritically, without regard to whether I liked or disliked what I thought or saw. That was thirty years ago; but the monk who had the most influence on me was bhante Kovida, a very wise, insightful man. (If you Google his name you’ll find him on the net.) I can hardly express my thankfulness to him. He taught me things I have never forgotten. He was fond of saying that much of humanities suffering results from expecting more from life, and others, than they are willing or able to provide. He used to tell us stories about how the monks in many of the countries he frequented were treated like gods, which did not have a good effect. Occasionally I would go to where he was staying (when not traveling). After talking with him, I once offered money (to help with expenses), which he would not touch, instructing me to put it on the table, where someone else would collect it. He was/is a very humble man who strictly observed his vow of poverty, since he saw the corrupting influence it had on other monks. He believed that understanding the four noble truths is the path to enlightenment (awakening). My personal belief is that penetrating the wisdom of the three marks of existence, especially anicca, will do the same. (Time will tell ;-). After my time with him, I spent many years attending group discussions and meditations at the Jodo Shinshu temple in Toronto, learning to meditate (which, after practicing for years, I am unable point to any tangible benefits from doing) and again, being exposed to very good teachers, which are hard to come by. One can only hope that some of what they taught me sunk in.
So, you have learned not to worry about unnecessary things, not an insignificant achievement; and not an easy hurtle get over. Nice going!!
Was there a particular event, etc. that helped you to come to this realization?
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