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  • in reply to: My second chance in life #119456
    Shipp
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    Dear anita,

    I think, when you spend a lifetime seeing only the surface of someone, you internalize everything..its all about how you feel and what happened to you. I think that finally being able to see my mother as a person, with her own struggles and flaws, gives me a sense of peace because I start to see that it wasn’t me (I wasn’t so terrible that I was unlovable, I was just the child of someone who couldn’t handle their own life and I was used as the scapegoat.. someone to blame when the day goes wrong but you can’t lash out at the boss or co-workers, so you come home and explode at the first thing that goes wrong… I think it’s called “kick the dog syndrome “). I guess I have this happy little song in my head saying “it wasn’t me, it wasn’t me, woohooo, it wasn’t me!”. All these years, I’ve struggled with how to forgive myself for being (insert all of the things she called me here) but I realize that I don’t need to forgive myself for something that isn’t true. For example, if someone accused me of procrastination, I would squirm because I know this to be true about myself but if someone accused me of being vane, I’d shrug it off because I know that is completely not true. I suppose have started to be able to accept what was true of my childhood and let the things that are not true drop away.

    I think that being able to see her as a person (instead of just Momma) helps me because I can start to forgive the person (not the actions and behavior). I can see her as a person who needed help; she needed professional therapy and medication. I think that if she had gotten both, my growing up would have been different. She was not a bad person, she just did bad actions. There is a difference in my opinion.

    On a side note, I know that my replies have been farther apart and a bit distracted this past week. My husband has just been diagnosed with Parkinsons and he’s already in stage 2 of progression. We met with the neurologist yesterday and have medical tests coming soon. I’ve been researching as much as I can about his condition and what to expect as things progress. His parents both have passed away but his brother is 12 years older and helped raise him. He wants to go see his brother so I’m making the arrangements for us to go for an extended visited (possibly next week after the house closing).

    I usually don’t get the opportunity to get online until around 2am, when everyone else has retired for the night. Hopefully I’ll be able to get back online again later tonight and post more.

    Take care and I look forward to talking with you again soon.

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #119408
    Shipp
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    Dear anita,

    When I read your responses separately, the idea came to mind of “the perfect storm”. I wonder if the circumstances came together for our mothers to make them into who they were. Their own abusive childhoods, being so young with sickly children, their frustration of their own lives, etc. Were the circumstances for their lashing out. The similarities between the two are remarkable.

    I’m really learning a lot about myself while examining my early years and my mother’s life experiences. This process has brought me a sense of peace that I haven’t been able to find previously. I think the more that I am able to get a glimpse of “her side ” about why things happened, the more peace I have.

    I will try to get online tomorrow and write more. It’s been a trying day for me. I’ll explain later.

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #119142
    Shipp
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    Dear anita,

    Our posts are really helping me to sort things out. I see something that you have said and I’m able to see a situation explained (where I’ve not been able to find the rights words to explain what happened or how I feel/felt). Also, when I am able to put into words what I’m trying to explain, even if I do it poorly, I know that you’ll get it. By posting here, I actually have to analysize and sort it out in my head before I can write it out here.

    I too have what I call ‘recordings’ in my head (because I hear it in her voice just like she’s beside me talking, yet fainter) of her rules. Both my parents were extremely strict and had rules for how I should act. Most of the rules where based on being “a proper, well-bred young lady”. For example “a lady walks, never runs”. I was a kid and all of my friends were running around outside and playing but I had to stay inside and play dolls quietly (by the way, another rule was “children are to be seen and not heard” which meant always speaking quietly). When I got older and in school had gym class, I hated it!! We were supposed to learn to play sports (which requires running) like baseball or basketball, as part of the class. I was so torn up because I didn’t know how to play basketball ‘like a lady’ and not run down the court, like the teacher was trying to get me to do, while my classmates are yelling at me to throw the ball. I felt so much conflicted pressure and panicked and froze, not knowing what to do. Even now, anytime I am faced with a situation where running would be more efficient, or more fun, I still lag behind and walk because I’ve got her in my head saying not to. This is just one example of the rules, but for just about any personal behavior or social situation, there were these rules.

    Now, there are the other set of recordings. Her voice combines with the ex husband’s and the ex in-laws and sounds something like “you’re so lazy, worthless, cruel, only think of yourself, stupid, weak” and the list goes on. I think this is the reason why I don’t see myself as having value. Some people have the view of “all people have value and worth because they are God’s creation” .. nope, I don’t see it that way. I don’t think I will ever be convinced that I mattered simply because I drew breath. For me, value has to be from an external source (something you do or are), something one has to work at or earn. This is just how I see life and the world.

    I too was aware that momma was careful not to leave visible marks outside clothed areas (except the time that she bit my sisters face…but she made her put on makeup to cover the bruise). We were also told exactly what lies to say, should teachers or grandparents see any marks and ask what happened. Unlike your mom, who acknowledged that she was doing something wrong, momma never did. In her explanation, “look at what you made me do” or “if you had done what I told you to, how I told you to, none of this would have happened” or “you brought this on yourself “… it was always because we deserved it.

    Since I first wrote “I don’t know what it was about my existence that made her so miserable“, I’ve been thinking about it. Something that may have made me different from my sister is: I was born in February during the largest snow storm in the recorded history of our county. It took 2.5 hours to get her to the hospital by ambulance (daddy and granddaddy couldn’t get a car dig out to take her to the hospital). If I remember correctly, she was only 20 – 21 at the time so it must have been a traumatic experience for her being in full labor like that. The other part that makes me different is that the winters that I turned 1, 2 and 3, I had to be hospitalized, in the pediatric ICU for weeks in an oxygen tent, for pneumonia. Again, for a young mother, it must have been extremely stressful, emotional and tiring. For her, she probably viewed me as weak, and causing her many problems in her life; the “hell that I put her through”. My sister was born in June and was always meek and “go along to get along” and healthy. I wonder if this had any cause in my being the one to draw the bulk of momma’s wrath and rage. I wonder if she harbored resentment all those years because the traumatic start to my existence. She never forgave me for what I put her through. If my theory is true, it would at least give me some peace because it’s something like makes logical sense to me (at least I would have an answer to WHY).

    I’m not trying to make excuses for anything that she did. I think I’m just trying to look at what might have been factors in the result. For example, when she got sick, in her 40s, we found out that she was bipolar and she began medical treatment for it. Looking back, with the known facts about person who are bipolar, I could then see the behavior patterns or mood swings that she went through earlier in life and then understand why she felt out of control during these cycles.

    I look forward to your perspective and any thoughts you’d like to add.

    Take care & best regards,

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #119078
    Shipp
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    Dear anita,
    I was surprised and touched by your response. Surprised to find out just how closely our situations resemble each other and touched by your kind words. Reading it was ‘bittersweet’ because as much as I hate someone else going through what I did, I know that you truly understand.

    You wrote “My mother too, in her violent rages against me, went from suicidal (a whole lot of the time) to homicidal. And of course, she always blamed me. According to her, she was simply reacting to my badness, the way… any good mother would react to a bad, ungrateful, evil-intentioned, defected, inferior, etc., … daughter. ” Later in life, Were you able to get answers as to why, what caused her to be that way, etc?

    About “sense of justice and fairness”, I became a paralegal because I wanted to help uphold the law and I worked with the guardian ad litem program to be a child’s voice in court. Originally, I wanted to be a police officer but (1) I had too many anger issues and (2) I can’t see a gun anywhere near me without going into a full anxiety attack. But, I wanted to do something to stand up for kids who couldn’t defend themselves (or like in my situation, couldn’t tell family or a teacher … we were forced to lie to cover up momma’s behavior).

    I do want to write more But I need to give myself more time to put together my thoughts. I will post again tomorrow/today, later.

    Best regards,

    ~shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118963
    Shipp
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    Dear anita,

    I had a whole post typed out to you but when I clicked ‘submit’, Internet failure lost it all (so this is the short version).

    Your example makes sense to me. It’s similar to the cycle that I experience with Daddy. It’s also the reason that I’ve decided to let go of trying to have a relationship with him. He’s happy with his life and I’m tried of putting myself through the cycle, so I’m letting go.

    The advise you and VJ shared has shifted my perspective on many aspects of my relationship with my mother. I have some soul searching to do today.

    Hopefully, I’ll be back again this evening.

    Best regards,

    ~Shipp

    P.S. Do you mind if I ask why you prefer the small a? Just something I’ve been curious about but keep forgetting to ask about.

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118961
    Shipp
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    Dear VJ,

    Its good to hear from you again! Thank you for your kind words and sharing.

    I started exploring the law of karma, past lives and similar studies a few years ago. Basically, as you mentioned, I wanted to understand what I could have done previously to bring about many of the events in this lifetime. I must admit that until I read your words, I completely missed the fact that I possibly treated her very badly. I also believe that when a soul has completed their life’s journey they will move out of this life. I missed applying this belief to my mother’s life as well (once she found peace within herself for her own life, and our debt was paid to each other, she would pass). I think this new perspective will help me deal with the upcoming months differently this year.

    I will definitely find the book that you recommended on Amazon. It already interests me just from what you’ve shared.

    I appreciate your insights and wisdom that you share very much! I would like to hear more of your thoughts, things that you have learned or information that you would like to share.

    I’ve heard “when the student is ready, the teacher will appear”. I think that I’m finally ready to learn and understand and that Tiny Buddha site is providing some wonderful teachers to help me to discovery.

    Best regards,

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118937
    Shipp
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    I’ve not been online due to doing a lot of reading and not feeling well. November and December are my tough months to get through.

    My mother’s birthday is in the first week of November and it still tears me up, every year. She died a few years ago and it crushed me. Although she was the cause of the abuse, violence and trauma of my growing up (then later manipulation and drama), the year before she died, she had a massive stroke which caused her personality to change. Because I went everyday, after work, to care for her we became close. It was the closest that I ever felt to her. I felt like I FINALLY had a mother and that she truly loved me. For four months things were great! The day that much aunt (momma’s sister) called me at work and told me to come to the hospital, I KNEW, I knew she was already gone but they didn’t want to tell me. My world shattered. God, I’m crying as I write this. I don’t have the words to describe the depth of loss that I felt and still feel every year. I also feel cheated because I was left with so many questions unanswered.

    This woman beat me with belts (leaving cuts from the belt buckle) and wire coat hangers; would make me stand still while she threw pots, pans and glass dishes at me and then tell me to clean up the mess and dare me to cut my bare feet and the glass; my whole life she told me that the day I graduated from high school that she would put a bullet in her head so she could escape the hell that I put her through my whole life; she even put the barrel of her gun (loaded and cocked) against my forehead and threatened to kill me and then herself during one of her rages.

    I never understood why my existence made her life so unbearable. My sister and my mother were best friends; confidantes. I was always “too stupid, clumsy, lazy, worthless” etc to do things with them. I was excluded my whole life and I still don’t know why.

    She got sick in her early 40s and her health went downhill from there. I have the same blood disorder and medical problems that she had. She died at 59. I started having strokes at 32, a massive heart attack last year and the other problems, so I really wonder if I will live as long as she did.

    One of my beliefs is that the spirit goes on after dealth. I believe that she can hear me so I still talk to her. When I notice the clock reads 3:33 or 12:12, I say “I love you momma”. When I miss her really bad or like when my granddaughter was born, I talk to her.

    My problem still is that I can’t reconcile the two situations within myself. She warped how I see myself as a person, and I don’t know how to deal with that, but there was so much hope near the end for us to finally have a great relationship but it was jerked away from me right as it began.

    After her birthday comes Thanksgiving and Christmas which throw me into a extremely deep depression (every year since I was a teenager). This year should be even more interesting because I have decided not to see any of my family (other than my husband and my daughter, the one who already lives with me). I refuse to see daddy (and my sister will harp, nag and try to guilt me into changing my mind, as she always does) so that means I have to cut myself off from the rest as well.

    Oh and we are selling our other house. The closing date is, as it happens, on momma’s birthday. I should be in a fine frame of mind for that. I’m praying nothing goes wrong and that the closing goes off without a hitch or I may seriously have a melt down!

    Anyway, for the next few months, my posts will probably be dark and random, and there will probably be gaps between my getting online but January should be better (before February starts it again) … but I’ll be normal again come March. This is the cycle of my life, every year. This is the person that I try to hide away from the rest of the world. This is the person that I want to change 9 months out of the year.

    This is way more information than you or anyone reading this wants to know but this is the first time I have ever written some of these things publicly. This is the “Sherry Lynn” that my mother created. Now what?

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: Issues #118794
    Shipp
    Participant

    Dear Sammi,

    Your said that you learned from your mom’s mistakes and from your posts, it sounds like you have in deed! I think that (if you avoid rusty knives and nail polish remover) that you be a wonderful, loving mom someday!

    You mentioned that you thought about starting a journal of things that you have learned. I have actually done that myself. It does help to be able to go to it (in the moments when you need support) and read the things that matter; things that help get you through. Sometimes just the smallest sliver of hope is enough to keep you hanging on just a little longer.

    So much of what Driftwood is telling you is spot on. My ex husband was/is exactly like that so I know the type that you and Driftwood are describing. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use the mantra “Good person bad situation or maybe GPBS like Driftwood said. He’s giving good advice.

    When things get bad, if you can get online in your room, post here. You’ve got people who care and want to help.

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118792
    Shipp
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    Good! I’m glad your safe and back home again!

    I agree that you have a talent or gift for interacting with others. I’ve started reading other posts that catch my interest and I also benefit from things that you say that others. It’s interesting to read different viewpoints and reactions to problematic situations that we all seem to have in common.

    Let me pose a topic and get your thoughts. You may have come across this theory before.

    The theory (as I understand it from therapy ) is that if you can change your perspective, you can change your reality.

    Example: Your driving to work and someone pulls in front of you, causing you to miss the green light and you have to stop. (A) You THINK “what a jerk!!! He thinks he’s better than I am because he can afford a fancy car” Your reality is that you become mad, stew about it and arrive at work in a bad mood; lousy way to start your day. (B) You don’t give any thought to the other car and think “I’ve got a minute at the red light to look at the stero and find a good song”. Your reality is that you quickly found a song and sing the rest of the way to work. Your day starts off happy and cheerful.

    This theory is also supposed to help when examining ones childhood or other experiences. Your perspective on things that happened effect how we feel now.

    I’m wondering HOW to make this shift in perspective so that I can try to view situations differently; thereby changing my reality. It’s similar to trying to view a situation from someone else’s perspective.

    Am I making any sense or just rambling because it’s 3am lol.

    I look forward to your thoughts.

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118748
    Shipp
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    Dear anita,

    I just read your last post and smiled at the irony. I didn’t post yesterday because I was in too much physical pain. Most days I can get through with the pain but yesterday was almost unbearable. There was a thought (almost like a chant in my head) of ‘stay focused on THIS moment’. It was hard.

    It was even more difficult when my daughter and I had a blow up. The interesting thing is during the blow up, I was able to remain calm and state exactly what I was thinking; I was able to say what bothered me without added comments like “you always” or “you don’t ever”. I kept it to the here and now even though she tried to drag other aspects of our situation into the current argument.

    Today I’m functionable in spite of the pain and so I’m looking forward to trying my practice again.

    You mentioned my other posts on different threads. Thank you! I figured that maybe I can encourage other people. It helps me not to focus on myself as much. Even though I tend to be ‘safe’ and choose my words carefully when posting.

    I noticed something else in your other posts. You once wrote that you were using business Internet because you had no power at home. I hope that you are alright. Have you been able to return home? Power restored? You don’t mention much about yourself but I hope you feel free to post to me anything that you would like. I feel like I can talk with you but I don’t want our conversations to be all of my whining and you patiently listening to me all the time. I would like to support you also. So feel free to post here whatever you’d like. Even if you would like posing topics or theories for debate and discussion. I like that type of thing.

    I have to go take the doggie out but I’ll check back in again today for any updates.

    I look forward to your next post.

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: Thoughts from a cell phone bill #118683
    Shipp
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    Dear Xenopus,

    Sounds like you will be moving into Senior staff type case load. Hopefully this will allow you to do more planning and preparation on your cases and less being called on to put out the fires that pop up (at all hours). Best of luck!

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: Told my mom I didn't want to be in contact anymore #118681
    Shipp
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    Dear Dreaming,

    I also have struggled with my father being a part of my life. I love him dearly but every time I have anything to do with him, I leave with my emotions in knots. So I have recently decided that my life is too short to keep putting myself through this over and over (expecting a different result but always it is the same).

    You said it yourself, this is a new chapter in your life without her. What do YOU want your story to be? Think of what you would advise your best friend to do in this situation… and then do it.

    For me, since the holidays are coming up, I plan on declining invitations to events where my father will be (staying home and doing my own Thanksgiving dinner, if need be). I plan on remembering the good times that I’ve shared with him in my life, but not giving him the chance to create negative memories. I plan on treating him like ‘somebody I used to know’.

    Sometimes the only way to heal and move on is to let go. Live your life and be happy. Just because she’s your mother doesn’t make her your mom. She’s just another person who chose to live her life separately from you or rather in a way that is unacceptable for you.

    You have your whole life in front of you to be happy: go for it!!

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: Issues #118679
    Shipp
    Participant

    Dear Sammi,

    Your mother’s first responsibly is to her child until that child is an adult. Period. It’s not about her love life or having a man (especially abusive ones) in her life. It’s not about her. Her primary job is to take care of and protect YOU.

    Her boyfriend sounds like a bully and a coward. Real men don’t feel the need to belittle other people to the point of tears. I’m sure that if he spoke to another grown man the way he does to you, that he would find himself waking up on the floor.

    You sound like the only truly mature person in your home. It troubles me to read that you don’t eat much or that you don’t feel like you can go to the bathroom, when you need to, because of him. I want to make sure that you realize your rights as a person. Avoid having direct conversation with him, yes..smart plan, but don’t let him stand in your way of caring for yourself. YOU are the only you that there is; be kind to yourself and do what you have to in order to take care of yourself in the day to day, small ways (things that you can control).

    Keep posting and sharing what you feel like sharing. On your bad days, vent or blow off things that are pent up. On good days, feel free to share your hopes for your future. People here are supportive and WILL LISTEN to what you have to say. We all have either been there, are there or will be there at so point too.

    Best wishes,

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118677
    Shipp
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    Dar anita,

    Today was interesting. I started off trying to be aware of myself and paying attention to staying focused on my body and breathing. I found it an odd sensation but also realized I felt energized. I am still reading “The Power of Now” and made an effort to stay in each moment presently. The combination of the two lead me to want to be outside even longer (I take my doggie out first thing in the morning and read while waiting on him but I usually come right back inside when he’s done). So, today included relocating my lawn furniture, putting away the summer outdoor furniture, gathering kindling, hauling up and stacking fire wood in preparation for colder weather.

    The interesting part was that I was able to stay in the present moment all day. Because I was paying attention, I noticed that my breathing stayed steady and even. My thoughts stayed quite all day as well. At one point, I came inside and past the clock in the living room (expecting it to be around 1:30) and was amazed that it was 4:30. Time really is irrelevant when you are fully present in the Now.

    I plan on trying again tomorrow to see if I can maintain the same focus. My hope is that the more I achieve the state of being present and the moving meditation, the more natural it will begin to feel.

    Thanks for the advice. I’ll check in again tomorrow.

    ~Shipp

    in reply to: My second chance in life #118587
    Shipp
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    I’ve never heard of moving meditation but I will certainly try it tomorrow and let you know how it works for me.

    Will post again tomorrow.

    ~Shipp

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