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MinaParticipant
Dear Anita,
You wrote : “The contact with him, his reply, means that you got a break from your loneliness, that you feel seen, heard and understood, and lots of emotions came to the surface.”
Is this a bad thing? We are no longer in contact but I guess you are right. I needed a break from the loneliness and the stress.
MinaParticipantDear Peter,
You wrote : “In this light, sometimes Love may require that a relationship end.” can you explain in more details about this sentence?
-Mina
MinaParticipantDear Connie,
Thank you for the amazing and heartwarming feedback. I really appreciate it, very much.
You wrote : “Nothing in the world is worth losing yourself to, not even a man you deeply in love with. I, too, was afraid of changing, because I didn’t want to lose him – in me and in my memories.” This sentence you wrote, I really liked it. I did not realise that maybe, I have been holding back a lot of changes in my life because in a way, it is a definite way of moving on. Things aren’t the same as when he was still with me. I guess, I did not liked that and refused change.
You wrote : “However, the truth is, they are already out of our lives. No matter how much we loved them, they still chose to walk away, whether the relationship ended in good or bad terms. ” I needed to hear this the most. I was holding on to things like memories, photographs, anything, I even wrote a journal in case I would forget about the memories that I shared with him. That journal, I needed that to survive. To just have something to hold on to physically because I was so scared that I would forget and it would make me and him turned into nothing. Memories are the most important thing to me … but I realise now that they are only memories after all. It is in the past. It does not exist anymore. Memories are to be cherished, but that is it. I am not suppose to live based on memories my whole life.
You wrote : “I was the one who stopped myself from moving on, because I didn’t even want to. My family and friends started getting tired of me because I didn’t even want to help myself.” You expressed everything I am going through right now perfectly. Sometimes it is not that we are not able to move on, we just .. do not want to. Because it means moving on from the life that me and my ex used to share.
You wrote : “How can someone love me again if i didn’t even love myself?” Hits me very hard with this one. You wrote everything that I wanted to say and needed to hear the most. I really want to live my life again, It is a long process but reading your post makes me realise that I am not the only one out there struggling over a break up. I need to get back up and be happy again.
Thank you, Connie. I wish you the same. I know how hard break up can be. It shakes you up, It numbs you, It throws you off your track, and made you question yourself like what I am doing right now. I am not fine today, and maybe I would also not be fine tomorrow but I know that maybe someday soon enough – I will be. I am waiting for that day to come. Thank you for all the helpful advices and feedback.
Sending love back,
Mina
MinaParticipantDear Anita,
You wrote : “Here is a way in which a break up can truly change you (the title of your thread): you can start living your own dreams and be 100% committed to yourself.”
I understand. That wasn’t what I meant. I mean, in a way – I am aware that the break up changed me. Those changes, I mentioned above. Maybe I asked the wrong question, but I feel like I lost a sense of identity on who Mina is after the break up. For example Mina before the break up was a hard working and loyal person, Mina during the relationship was the happiest she has ever been and was always so bubbly, this leaves the questions…. who is Mina after the break up?
I feel like I dont know who I am during this moment due to the break up process that was rough and long.
I would appreciate any feedback as usual, Anita.
-Mina
MinaParticipantDear Ziggy,
Thank you for the detailed response. I really appreciate you taking the time writing it.
You wrote : “From what you’ve said it seems as though you put more into the relationship then he did. Don’t you think that you deserve better?” this sentence hits me really hard. It is true but for the longest time, I just refused to admit it. Maybe it is time to accept that I invested more than he ever did in our relationship.
You wrote : “The hole in your heart can only be replaced by loving yourself.” I really want to love myself again and accept myself again but it isn’t easy … I feel like I want to love myself but I have become a stranger, even to myself. The process of the break up CHANGED me. I have to love the “new” Mina, and I know that I have been very harsh on myself the most during this break up.
I hope you will give me another feedback, Ziggy.
Thank you,
Mina.
MinaParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your detailed feedback. Sorry that it took me 5 days to reply to you, I actually am home for the summer right now. I talked with my parents regarding my concerns and I have been spending time with my close friends here, I was basically under a self restoration. I have to say that the break up was the main trigger of this whole thing. Last week while writing this, I was still very much in a deep dark cave, thinking that how my life had truly ended just because a boy broke up with me.
I truly realise that the main core of the problem is me. It is never about my parents or my ex. I never have any plans or goals that did not include my ex partner in the future, so of course after the relationship had ended – I genuinely thought that my future had also ended. After talking to my parents, I finally set up a short term and long term plan about my education and my working place in the future. I decided the plan myself, my mother surprisingly agrees with me right away while my father still has some other plan in his mind, I frankly at this point – does not really care about it much. I love my father but this is my life, I won’t live my life in a way that my father has lived his. I will decide what is best for me.
In a way, that break up is like a wake up call for me. It was painful, I admit that but … I am also very thankful for it. Because of that break up, it made re-think about everything in my life. Including my future dating life. I was foolish to think that me and this particular ex partner is somehow meant for each other when we are clearly not. We want different things in life, and it will never work out, even if he is not going to move college or even if he is not going to his mandatory military service. It took me a while to realise and accept that. We are just different people.
I believe that someone is out there, I will find the love of my life while finding myself slowly and surely. No need to rush anything. My parents and my friends here have truly helped me to see things in different respective. Their love and support has been overshadowing this whole thing. I see hope now because I can see my future, at least I have a plan for it that does not include anyone but myself. My plan will NOT change no matter what, I am the only one that is able to change it for the right reasons not because of a partner or because my parents said so.
It has been unbelievable that I am going through this … so young. I do not know how to explain the feeling but I am starting to really be at peace with myself. Thank you, Anita, for reading my long rant and giving such amazing advices for the past weeks. I couldn’t thank you enough. Thank you once again.
All Love,
Mina
MinaParticipantDear Mark,
Thank you so much for your feedback. I appreciate it. I tend to overthink stuff, so I really appreciate your post. To answer your question about whether am I able to hold a long committed relationship? Yes I am. I was willing to wait for that ex of mine for 3 years until he finishes his military service since we are Koreans. It is just hard to find a guy who thinks in a similar way as me because as you can tell, I am still young. Thank you once again.
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Mina
MinaParticipantDear Anita,
I will go through with your response and explain one by one.
1. You wrote : “my input: you were already someone. When they send you the message that they want you to be someone in the future, they implied that you were not someone. What they implied was incorrect.” -> What they meant by “someone” is someone who is successful, has a good career, is having a stable live according to their standards. As you can see, I am here writing about how I am questioning my life, questioning my studies and everything – so clearly I am still not that someone yet.
2. You wrote : “you have NOT been doing what you want to do for way too long. Way, way too long.” -> I am not denying this.
3. You wrote : “Sure, everyone prefers to be rich, but I wonder if marrying someone rich, in your mind, would be about pleasing your parents, as if to say: I am not being the rich career woman you want me to be, but I married a rich man, so are you pleased? Do you approve of me..?” -> I think I might have worded my sentences badly here. I wanted to emphasise the fact that career and education doesn’t matter as much after your marriage. Marriage is the ultimate goal, for me personally. I do not understand why people are working /studying so hard when at the end of the day – I would PROBABLY be more successful than those people that worked their ass all their life through MY marriage. Do not worry though, I am not planning to give up on my education ever, that I know for sure. I am also not planning to find a rich husband. I am searching for a smart, loyal and honest partner. Someone that I can truly talk to. I do not care about their money. It was just an example on how people can easily get equal respect and amount of money through marriage even though they never worked hard. I am not planning to do this in my situation.
4. You wrote : “Thing is, you are not in a mental position to make this decision now. The reason I state you are not in the position to make this decision is that you wrote that you want to do so “as early as possible”- the rushing in it is suspect to me, at nineteen.” -> I am also not denying this, I am very well aware that I am probably not in my right mind. I guess, I am thinking that marriage will solve every single problem about life that I have been dealing with. Financial problems, education problems, pressure to get marriage problems, how to live my life problems – this will ALL be solved through marriage somehow. That is how I think in the back of my mind. I know that it is probably not true.
5. You wrote : “Problem is “back home” doesn’t read to me like a comfortable place to be in because your parents do not support you living your own life, being a “someone” capable of determining how to .. truly live your life, that is, being true to yourself. Am I correct?” -> I cannot even go back home. I am only 19, I have never worked any kind of real job in life. Part times here and there for like 2 weeks per year, I did it for fun not for money. I am not capable of “rebelling” against my parents because I need their money and their support. I still want to continue college, I need money for that. Tons of money. After college, If I still haven’t met my husband yet, I would have t0 find work. This again, in my country – we need family backing. I wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for my parents. That is why I am seeking marriage as soon as possible, to get out. At least I know that I would marry someone that would let me do the things that I want to do. Instead of my family, I would be able to control my own life, I see marriage as a ticket to freedom. Going back at this point is not even choice to tell you honestly. I would have to keep going and pray that somehow I will find a way out other than marriage.
I know that I sound very absurd and weird, I am sorry for that.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
One more thing, if its kind of hard for you to understand my point of view I will give you an example.
Imagine being 35/40 year old, you’re living a very very very successful life. You have tons of money, tons of friends, your family loves you, you’re doing a job that you truly have a passion about, you’re basically living your “dream” life / the ideal life of an individual, but … you do not have anyone to share it with. Imagine how lonely it is. It really is sad. I think the saddest people in the world are lonely people. Lonely people on the outside they do not seem lonely but for me, I think i have a gift of seeing lonely people.
I never say anything to those people but deep down inside, I pity them. How can someone live their life like that? Lonely people in this case are not literally as in people that doesn’t have anyone in their life, but just normal people. I have a friend, he’s 23, doesn’t have a degree in college, doing physical labour work for more than 12 hours, he spends his weekends clubbing and just drinking trying to mask his loneliness, his girlfriend is a 55 year old women who is divorced or maybe even currently cheating on her husband. For others, he seems normal, but in my eyes – he is probably the loneliest people I have ever encountered in my life. Another friend of mine, changes boyfriend every month like she changes her clothes, that is .. also sad to me. I sound very judgemental right now, I am very well aware.
I am afraid that I am slowly turning into those “lonely” people that I always pity now that my life is a mess.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
Thank you. As usual, you always gives me amazing answers. I understand the concept that you are trying to talk to me about, I am a high achiever, being under stress is something that I get used to since I was in school. But this time? It is a bit different. It doesn’t seem like it will end. It is not like a usual stress that passes through. Why? Simply because I am questioning my life.
I wonder why am I doing all of these right now. I have no personal dreams. My parents and my teacher have always wanted me to be “someone” and to truly live my life but at this point : I just do not see it happening because I do not want it, but I do have a wish. It is very personal and some people might called me stupid for it, I do not blame them either – my wish is to get married as early as possible. Start my own family and take care of the people that I love. Being a housewife.
This again, people never understand the reason why. I do not really expect them to. If I wasn’t so smart, people wouldn’t be so mad but they feel like I am wasting my talent. I frankly do not care. Being smart, being a straight As student? It does not have any meaning to me. I dont put meaning in such things. I just wanted to be happy, doing things that I want to do. I just feel like my parents expectations of me can be pretty unrealistic, and we do not want the same thing. Every parents wants their child to be successful, but for me – I dont have that desire yet. You do not need a high degree or going to an Ivy school to be rich. You can just marry someone for that.
This sounds very reckless and selfish but this is how I truly feels. I just never say it out loud to people. I would really like it if you tell me your honest opinion.
-Mina
July 6, 2017 at 3:55 am in reply to: How do I commence searching for love when I've never experienced it? #156588MinaParticipantDear H,
I am a 19 year old girl who has just recently got out of a relationship, asking me about these stuff might not be a good thing right now but I can’t help but answer it.
Being in a relationship for someone who has never been one, can be tricky. From what you have posted above, it seems like – you might be not a very social person? I apologise if I am wrong. Choosing to study during university was a good choice but to the point where you didn’t have any friends? You definitely missed out on a lot of things.
You also mentioned that right now you are having a good life right now regardless, you are doing a lot of things such as French lessons and runs workshops. These are very good. You can meet a lot of different people and socialise through these things. Do not rush into dating, it will come to you when you’re ready. There is nothing wrong with a 23 year old man who has never dated before. Dont be so harsh on yourself on these kind of things. Once you find yourself in a relationship, you will understand what relationships are and maybe what love is.
Being in a relationship doesn’t always mean that you’re going to be happy. Trust me on this one. It seems like you still have a lot to learn about human relationships since you have never experience it before. You’re going to feel like you’re on a roller coaster of feelings. Not to mention the word “break up” – it is another whole topic to get into. What I am concern about is that once you get into a relationship, you will get very very attached to the point that it gets unhealthy. If the relationship gets emotionally abusive, you’ll stay anyway just for the sake of having a partner.
I just want to let you know that sometimes relationships are overrated. It is wonderful but it also very realistic. You sound like you’re a very smart person – meet someone like you. At least try to. They will understand you better. If you’re asking for dating advices, I would suggest you to be more social. Girls like man that are confident and reliable. Dont overthink about it. Enjoy life.
-Mina
July 6, 2017 at 3:29 am in reply to: This one step may help me move on from my ex-fiance for good #156586MinaParticipantdreaming715,
Be more gentle to yourself. You spent a good amount of your lives with your ex partner. It is important to acknowledged that those 5 years are still a part of you. It will always be. Cutting off contacts are good but at the same time .. I do not see how by doing all these things – you will be able to completely forget about this person. Moving on does not mean that you literally “delete” every single about this ex partner.
Moving on means that you’re able to live normally and start a new relationship (a genuine one) after the break up – from what you had describe above, you have already moved on. I understand that even though you are, sometimes, just sometimes, you feel like you are not because you feel a little pang inside your heart when you saw pictures of his family and his new life without you being in it. It is .. normal. Why?
When we invested our feelings, time, money and everything to this one person for 5 years, they will always have that special place in our heart. Reading how you almost g0t married with this person, makes that space even bigger. Accepting that you probably will always feel this way somehow is also moving on because regardless of this, you’re able to get yourself into a new relationship and is content when you saw him in mutual events.
I wish you all the best, you’re doing great. You do not need any kind of reassurance that you have let go or move on by blocking this person on their social media because you already are behind that.
-Mina
MinaParticipantTavo,
I understand what you are feeling more than anyone. I am currently going through a break up as well, it has been an emotional roller coaster. Reading your story, it seems like M has never been emotionally invested in this relationship as you have been. It is hard for a relationship to keep moving if you are not on the same page. You clearly wanted “more” and she clearly stated that she doesn’t. Isn’t things are …. pretty clear?
It might be hard for you to accept that just because we truly love someone – it does not mean that we have to be with them. Let go. You will realise how good it feels to just let go of something that has been mentally and physically tire you out. If you ask me if it is love or not, I would say with a heavy heart – it is not. At least for her, it is not.
Love isn’t what you had described above. There a lot of ways to express and describe love, but the most basic is the love that we have for ourselves. Our body and our heart. Put yourself first this time. There is no use in holding on to someone so tightly when all they want to do is leave.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
thank you very much for the helpful and detailed feedback, it feels really great hearing a compliment from you. I genuinely think that you’re giving so many helpful advices to so many people here, and I think you have a gift yourself. I do wish that I would get through this break up very soon, it has not been very easy but I know that I will be able to love again someday (hopefully soon) and I have to start that with loving myself again. thank you, once again. x
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
Thank you. I will be waiting.
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