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April 10, 2016 at 2:08 pm #101450PhilParticipant
Anita,
I answer to your question, it took some time to undo most of it. I had to finish growing up once out of what was supposed to be “home”. I had live in situations, made mistakes along the way, but took a cue from the movie “Under the Tuscan Sun”. I didn’t get married until I was almost 40. I married my best friend, we’re still married after 20 years, and she’s still my best friend. I told you I would not have kids and I did not. However, I have given several pets a forever home. One of which was to be euthanized the day after we adopted him. So in a way, I made the home that you describe. I have even worked through most all of my dark memories. However, the one thing that I haven’t bee able to work through is the lack of things from when I was little:
1.) living without the simple things like love and family
2.) not measuring up to get parental approval
3.) wondering if maybe I was a love child
I know that this is all in the past and should just let it go. But it left a huge hole. Sometimes I just feel like a dreary broom trying to sweep up the broken pieces of yesterday.
PhilApril 4, 2016 at 8:37 pm #100898PhilParticipantMayflower,
Thanks for responding. Yes, it’s tough. But, I’m determined to get through this.
Phil
April 4, 2016 at 8:35 pm #100895PhilParticipantHi Anita,
I didn’t want to leave you hanging…I will be back around Saturday to talk more. I’m really busy during the week.
PhilApril 3, 2016 at 6:05 pm #100758PhilParticipantAnita,
I will try to clear it up a little.
“okay at the beginning”-up to about 6 years of age I remember spending more time with baby sitters than with mom. I don’t remember any fighting to speak of. She remarried when I was eight.
“fighting is worth the love she saved”-The first year she was married again I watched her open up on my step dad leaving a trail of his blood on the wall behind him. I decided never to have kids that day. As time went by the fighting only intensified. Everyone in family stayed away from home as much as possible. The place we called home just had too many holes in the wall from the fights. Somehow it was more important to fight rather than try to work things out. To cope I just shut my feelings down. When I left home after school it was never to return. However, after about twenty years of not talking I wanted to try again. I thought maybe if time changed my mind, maybe she would have second thoughts too. We met initially and set agreed upon ground terms on conduct. It didn’t take long and things were back to the way they were before. The feeling of not being able to walk back in after the way we would fight set in again.
The thing I missed that never was- an atmosphere where people try to work things out, the hope that maybe there was another side to the story besides hers and that she might be able to see it, and the hope that she would be able to say she loved the person she married (at some level).
Perspectives changing and guarantees-Maybe I am different from most. But, by the time I reached 40, I remember doing a lot of reflective review of my life, changing my life by turning on feelings that I turned off years early just to save my sanity, and learning to trust again. I thought that if I was doing that for myself, maybe she might have done some reflective thinking on her own. Turned out it was just a hope that went up in smoke.
Maybe this makes more sense?
Phil
April 3, 2016 at 9:50 am #100747PhilParticipantAnita,
Thinking more about it…I guess the other things I wrestle with are 1.)being mad at her that she never opened up and 2.) why would you treat people like that if you “loved” them? It makes me a little angry and I’m trying to work through it and past it.
PhilApril 3, 2016 at 9:41 am #100746PhilParticipantAnita,
I guess what I am saying is it may have started out ok as a very young toddler. But, along the way the marital fighting became so intense that I withdrew not to return until much later in my life. When I did return I found that nothing changed. The game was still somehow “fighting is worth the love she saved”. At the time I just wanted to understand why she could never enjoy a family instead of the constant fighting. That’s what I mean by “what could have been but never was”.
Now it just seems like wasted time returning after all those years. I know life holds no guarantees. But, for most people, time has a way of changing perspectives.
Phil
February 9, 2016 at 9:09 pm #95651PhilParticipantDear Hurts,
It seems like this guy can’t respect you enough to see you as a person with feelings and interests outside the bedroom. When the going gets tough, and it will, will he be there for anything but make-up sex? I’ll lay odds that, if you’re truthful, the answer is no. He’ll be miles away. Kick him to the curb. There are too many other people in the world that are worthwhile. Don’t settle, get what you really want.
Phil
February 9, 2016 at 8:50 pm #95648PhilParticipantDear Dreaming 715,
I want to say first that I am sorry for the way things turned out. It seems like he wants you on his terms or not at all. This is not a two way street by the appearances that I see. Until things are committed either of you should be able to see whoever you want. Commitment shouldn’t be based on one-sided interpretations of facts. But, rather, a mutual understanding of the facts. You may have heard this before…you can’t lose something that you never had in the beginning. I know what I am saying doesn’t make you feel any better. But, hopefully, it might give you another perspective.
Phil
February 7, 2016 at 3:21 pm #95225PhilParticipantThe Thinker,
The fact that your wife thinks she would be better off without kids may point to a trauma from long ago. I can tell you from experience. My folks did things that had me make a promise to myself at the age of eight…that I would never have kids. I didn’t want to put any other kid through what I had been through. As to never fighting…this is just an unrealistic fantasy. What I did do was marry my best friend. We took things slow to make sure we wanted the same things, share the same values, and can have each others’ backs when the going gets tough. Compromise is key as long as you don’t betray yourself. Betray yourself and things will unravel and the blame will fly. So be honest, and be interested in your wife’s interests. She needs to reciprocate the same. As long as you can do that, love will walk through fire without blinking. I can share my shadow days with my wife. Can you?
Perfect doesn’t exist. It’s only a road to frustration. The heart is fraught with faults and breaches of all kinds. The trick is to be able to share, help heal the faults, and lend support where you can.
Phil
January 9, 2016 at 8:19 pm #91939PhilParticipantFaith,
I can’t tell you tell you how to cope with heartache. Everyone does it differently. I take long hikes in nature and ponder situations until they make sense. For example…I finally confronted my mom about a question that had festered inside me for nearly 50 years. I guess it took so long because I was afraid of what the answer might be. However, one day I asked her if she ever loved my dad and she told me it was none of my business. I beg to differ as it became the business of offspring the day she decided to conceive. Her answer told me indirectly the answer. That weekend I spent a day hiking alone and came upon a log of a tree fallen and rotting. I sat there for a while and got my answer there. My mom was always confrontational. I decided that this situation had an answer in that fallen log. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a diseased tree to save the forest. Some things you can’t change. You have to accept it and move on.As to religion, I guess I’m different than most. The relationship between God and myself is strictly between God and myself. I don’t let pre-packaged religion dictate what will or will not be. So I don’t pretend to give any advice there.
I can tell you that I have been married now 20 years and with same person even longer. We were best friends before we ever got married. We helped each other to attain each other’s dreams. You have to be willing to cross out of your comfort zone into each other’s worlds and be truly interested in the ground you are traversing. If you can’t, then it is all for not. My wife is still my best friend besides being my wife. We can argue, but, we also have the strong bond we developed early to transcend arguments. We developed a strong trust to know that no matter what, we have each other’s back. And, by extension, there isn’t a situation that we can’t deal with together.
Take a hard look at the real reasons that you two split. If the reasons stand up to logic (not emotion) then maybe it’s best that you went separate ways. Will religion define your significant other or will you? The answers are different for everybody. Only you can come to these answers. When you come to these answers then you will know what is important to you and will help the next time you meet someone.
Right now you are missing what might have been. Might haves aren’t worth a dime. Answer some of the hard questions and move forward with life knowing that the picture of what you need is a clearer one than it used to be. Your heart will mend and be stronger than it was. But, it only becomes stronger by taking the “lessons learned”.
This is just a guy’s perspective. Hope it helped a little.
Phil
January 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm #91843PhilParticipantRory,
I wish you well and may you have all the luck in the world. When you do break away, just remember that you can’t live your life for someone else. You have to live your life for you. That means you have to be comfortable with yourself in your own skin. You already know what you want to do. Time to act on it and be your own person.When I left, I remember that I was a little sad for a while. Not because I missed family…I missed what family could have been but never was. So I always remembered one lyric out of a Beatles song “She’s leaving home after living alone for so many years.” It hit home and helped me remember the reasons I left. Eventually you blaze your own trail, hit bumps along the way, but above all you’re living your life for you. You will be a happier person for it.
May the wind be at your back and God bless. Bon voyage!
Phil
January 5, 2016 at 8:29 pm #91482PhilParticipantHi Ed,
Here is something sort of immediate in nature to try. It’s an offshoot of combat breathing. When things start to get under your skin, slowly take in a long deep breath for four seconds. Then exhale slowly for 4 seconds. All the while paying attention to the temperature of your breath, the air passing by the nasal hair, the expansion of your lungs, etc. You should find by the end of that eight seconds, things will have cooled considerably. Then ask yourself what was so important that your blood pressure had to take a hit to indulge? If you find this works, maybe consider meditation and breathing exercises.If your a perfectionist, the world is never good enough or you feel that you are never good enough for the world. Thing is, the world is far from perfect. You don’t have to be perfect to fit in. If you try to be perfect folks will think you’re odd. You teach people how to perceive you. If you teach them that you are interested only in perfection, you will be left alone because they know they can’t measure up.
Usually, perfectionism is a compensating factor of “look at me, I’m worth something”. Lead your own parade and don’t worry about others. People of like mind will find you. Real friends can be counted on one hand with fingers left to count. All the others are not worth the frustration of being perfect. Be true to yourself first, treat yourself well, and treat others well. If some folks don’t treat you well, it’s not be worth trying to change yourself to accommodate them. The right people will accept you for you.
Good luck and I hope this helped.
Phil
January 3, 2016 at 8:32 pm #91239PhilParticipantRory,
I’ve been where you are many years ago. My mom was a horrible person to deal with, also. The only time she was nice to you was to draw you into a fight. At a young age I checked out emotionally never to return (at least for her). If you can’t stick it out, don’t force yourself. You have to do what you have to do. My “checking out” was the only way to cope because I was so young. But, it cost me dearly. Latter in life I had to learn to trust enough to turn the emotions back on and learn to feel again. And at that you have to catch up with things that happened while you turned your feelings off. Like the death of people that meant something to you. With the help of my wife, I finished putting in the missing colors of my life portrait. It takes a long time to fix.If your conditions are too bad and you have the ability to make it on your own, I recommend it. I did and wouldn’t do it differently. Did I ever see my mom again…yes. Did things change…no. She remained the person she was until the end. But, to never be able to trust just means you never live. I’m still learning, and quite honestly, I think will keep learning until it’s lights out.
Just remember, there’s always something better. You just need the courage to go for it. One of my favorite quotes is from an unknown (to me) origin. “The biggest regrets in life you’ll ever have are the chances you don’t take.” I’m not saying that my way is the best way. It’s one that worked for me. Just my two cents.
And one last thing to remember, don’t get too good at closing the door never to look back. It just means you never give yourself a chance to change your mind. Never is just the echo of forever.
Don’t be lonely as a train…be part of something good and leave something good behind.
Phil
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