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October 30, 2017 at 4:35 am #175619AnonymousGuest
Dear Heartbrokengurl:
He communicated some things to you that are helpful. Most important to my understanding regarding how you should go about it is: “he doesn’t want to feel pressured”.
This means to me that if you continue communication with him, if you choose to talk and see him again, as in going for a bike ride next, better not pressure him. This means to not talk about the future of your relationship, not in direct ways and not in indirect ways, but focus on the now, relax best you can.
The title of your thread is “a fight (for a man, for a relationship with a man)- do they work?”
If you choose to fight, that would be with your impatience, your anxiety, so to be able to spend time with him with absolutely no mention of a future with him.
anita
October 30, 2017 at 10:32 am #175747AnonymousInactiveThanks Anita. I suppose I will just have to decide if I can be a ‘friend’ to him and hope he’ll come around, but not sure I can do that when I’m in love with him, especially if I ‘wait’ around for him and it never happens. It will be like my heart break s every time I see him.
I do feel like I at least got some more clarification from him. I just hate that his ex did this to him, and it’s because of her that we can’t be together.
October 30, 2017 at 11:03 am #175757AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
It is not likely to be his ex, not entirely. His anxiety and conflicts probably go further back, before he met her.
Not a good idea, for you, to have your heart break every time you see him.
anita
October 30, 2017 at 4:10 pm #175809AnonymousInactiveYes, I have a feeling its some other deep rooted issues he’s dealing with. I think I will tell him I can’t see him right now, that it’s too hard for me, and if and when he gets over his ex and issues then he can contact me.
October 31, 2017 at 6:36 am #175869AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
That reads like good thinking on your part. If you add to your good thinking a plan about how to deal with missing him, once you are no longer in contact, then you are likely to succeed in actualizing your thinking.
anita
November 1, 2017 at 11:53 am #176081ElianaParticipantHi Heartbrokengirl,
I’m sorry I have not posted in a while, I have been reading through your posts, and was wondering how you are holding up?
November 1, 2017 at 10:26 pm #176161AnonymousInactiveThanks for your message! Sweet of you.
Im doing ok. It has been up and down for the most part.
Im still trying to decide how to go about the situation. I feel like it’s not the end for us, but not sure how to trust that what will be will be.
It kills me to think about telling him I can’t see him so I may end up hanging out with him and being completely neutral, ie no begging to work on things etc. Just let it be, pull away a bit and see if he comes back to me.
November 3, 2017 at 11:54 am #176389AnonymousInactiveSo we are going to spend some time together on Sunday. We text a little yesterday and I suggested watching this show and he said ‘Sounds great! I’d love to’, and then said ‘Sleep soundly, and I’m always looking forward to seeing you 🙂 thanks for being so great’.
I’m really trying not to get too excited about that because it was such a nice text. I just don’t want him to lead me on.
November 4, 2017 at 3:58 am #176405AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
I don’t think he is trying to lead you on, from your shares about him so far. Reads to me like he is troubled by his own internal conflicts, fears, and so on, issues from his past, before he met you. He is not a cold hearted manipulator trying to lead you on, not from my understanding.
Thing is how do you not lead yourself on? His text reads very positive and promising, and if you focus on it, you might lead yourself on to think that he can be that positive and promising all the time, at least from the moment he fell in love with you deeply enough.
Not the case. It is only a text. He is still the troubled individual that he is. There is no… falling in love with you enough to change this reality. Your speech to him didn’t work at all, you wrote. There is no fighting (title of your thread) for him that will work either.
There is nothing you can do to change the reality that it is his internal struggles responsible for his on-again-off-again attachment to you, so stop trying to fix or change or fight for him.
Consider my thoughts here and form your own. Try to relax into reality, enjoy Sunday and when you get distressed, repeat to yourself the thoughts that are congruent with the reality.
anita
November 7, 2017 at 10:20 am #176849AnonymousInactiveSo Sunday went better than I expected, but did leave me confused.
When I got to his place we chatted for a while just about how work is, what’s new etc., but didn’t talk about how we’re doing emotional kind of thing. I was upbeat and tried to play it cool, and I think it worked.
We watched a show, and cuddled on the couch for a long time. We did end up sleeping together, which I”m not sure was a mistake, but it felt right. We laid in bed for a long time just talking, but I didn’t open up, tell him about my worries or concerns, or ask him what we are or what we’re doing, or where he’s at. He was talking about things he wants to do with me this winter. Told me he loves me, and a couple of times told me not to worry. I didn’t expand on this or ask him what he meant because I didn’t want him to think I’m looking for an answer or pressure him.
When I went to leave he kissed me, said he would be in touch while he’s away (he’s off to visit his parents a few hours away for a week). And he made a comment ‘you’re not going anywhere’ and not to ‘get into too much trouble’.
We text a bit when I got home, and it was like we were back together.
I haven’t heard from him since, although it’s only been a couple of days, so I’m trying to just go with the flow and at his pace in order not to lose him. I don’t want to put pressure on him, but the same time, I’m not sure how long I can be in this state of not knowing what we are or what we’re doing.
It seems clear to me that he wants to be with me, he just needs time I think to sort through whatever he needs to sort through.
I’m trying to stay strong and give him the space he wants, but I miss him so much.
November 7, 2017 at 10:37 am #176855AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
Excellent job on your part with the following: ” I didn’t… tell him about my worries or concerns, or ask him what we are or what we’re doing, or where he’s at…. I didn’t expand on this (the positive things he told you)”
It is difficult for you, you wrote, “not knowing what we are”. Thing is when a man tells a woman where-they-are, and the woman is an anxious woman, she fears losing that place where they are at. She may feel good for a moment, but the feel-good disappears with overthinking. So no difference, really.
This is an opportunity for you to endure that anxiety, of not knowing where you are with him, because if it comes to it that he tells you what you want to hear, you will still need to deal with the anxiety of losing that place.
anita
November 7, 2017 at 11:45 am #176889AnonymousInactiveThanks Anita! I am quite proud of myself that I was strong enough to just let it be and not beg or ask him what is going on.
I am feeling anxious that I haven’t heard from him yet, but I know we can’t just go back to the same place we were overnight. I also wish I knew what he meant by telling me not to worry. Does he mean don’t worry about ‘our’ future, or that he’s going anywhere, or don’t worry and just be happy with my own life? I’ll choose the first option, and hope that’s what he meant.
I will choose to keep busy, journal, and hope for the best in the meantime to deal with my anxiety.
November 8, 2017 at 5:48 am #176995AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
You wonder what he meant by telling you not to worry. Most likely he meant to say that he doesn’t want you to worry. He probably meant that he doesn’t want you to worry about anything, that he wants you to feel calm, not worried.
When you wish that he meant that you shouldn’t worry about your future with him, there is an assumption there, on your part, that he is emotionally strong enough to indeed present no danger for you to worry about. Your assumption is that he is strong enough, secure enough, knowing enough to know whether there is a future with you and what kind of a future.
Likely, he is as or close to being as anxious as you. We only imagine others are stronger when we feel weak. In reality, this is very often not the case.
anita
November 8, 2017 at 9:46 am #177023AnonymousInactiveThanks so much Anita. I kind of wish I asked him what he meant by that, and part of me wants to reach out and ask him that too, but I know I should wait to hear from him.
I had a panic attack last night waiting to hear from him and I still haven’t. Today is day three and I’m feeling frustrated and disappointed that I haven’t yet. On Sunday it felt like we were back together, and now its like it was after we broke up again. I dont know what to do.
November 8, 2017 at 10:18 am #177029AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
You are very welcome. Well, he is visiting his parents, correct? I don’t know about his relationship with his parents, maybe it is of such nature that he is distressed and so, he is not feeling tender feelings about anyone at the present.
anita
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