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    Claire
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    I met my husband 9 years ago after a very healing 12 months of singledom. I’d that time to heal after a failed relationship and I lived my new self, feeling happy and content in ever way. Then I met a man who felt totally right. We had so much in common, he was kind and caring and protective. It felt so perfect like everything was totally right and it was meant to be. After 6 months in our new relationship he moved in with me and even that was great, he was perfect around the house, helpful and it felt like we’re a great team. Then 2 months later we went on our first holiday abroad together. We booked an excursion from our hotel and had to get up quite early, as I was getting dressed I inadvertently slammed a draw and he said “be quiet other people are sleeping” I turned to him and said “sorry I didn’t mean to” it was then that everything changed, he yelled at me telling that this was typical of me, not caring about other people, in what seemed like several minutes he hurled very personal insults at me and then went silent. Not wanting to miss the trip, we carried on to breakfast and boarded the coach in silence. After a while sitting there insolence in what was supposed to be a memorable first holiday, I began to confused, lonely and trapped, trying to rationalise the irrational outburst I’d just been smacked in the face with. It upset me and I started to cry. After a while he noticed, he turned to me and said “look at the state of you, you need to take a long look at yourself. After a few hours of him sulking and ignoring me and he eventually apologised. He promised he would never do that again. Well you guessed it, things were fine again for a while until another irrational outburst occurred. The same thing happened again, a tirade of non stop insults and an oppressive air of rage and anger hit me like a whirlwind. His insults were so intense and rapidly delivered that I could barely process what he’d said. Afterwords, he would sulk and eventually after several hours, sometimes not until the next day, he pretend that everything was fine. Never an apology. I did so want it to work, we’d created so much together already, I always wanted to believe everything would be ok. 2 years later we married but nothing changed. If already started to notice his controlling ways, if there was something he didn’t like he would take charge by yelling and scowling, there was never a calm discussion and my opinion was never heard. My acceptance of this poor behaviour set a precedent, I know I was saying it’s ok to talk to me like s&£@ and get away with, but I loved him dearly and still wanted it to work, perhaps a cliche; but when it was good it was really good. As time had gone on his outbursts have been noticed my ever single one of our friends so much so that my best friend can’t stand being near him. He had become more controlling and more distant. I can honestly say we never have a nice time whatever we do. We now have a beautiful dog who is my world and if I’m honest she one of the biggest reasons I haven’t left before. The outbursts are more frequent these days and every time they turning into abusive remarks insinuating that I drive him to this. He will not accept that he had faults and won’t even discuss what I suggest is evidence of his poor behaviour. So, last weeek another argument occurred. He works from home and I work long hours in the NHS, so he had more time to be at home doing domestic chores and walking our dog. He also had more spare time than me. So to add to the complexity there is almost a power imbalance, I feel bad about him being able to do more than me so I overcompensate by doing as much as I can at home, sometimes stopping only for lunch on weekend. I’m exhausted and stressed at work and our argument last week was the straw that broke the camels back. I bit back at him in an effort to give him some home truths. As you can imagine it didn’t work, he turned everything back to me. I’d had enough. He had knocked the wind out of my sails for the last time. I’ve fixed myself up with a friend to stay with and I can take my dog. But I’m leaving my beautiful house, my garden our lovely neighbours and this makes me so sad. Everyone I’ve spoken to in the last few days have said those things don’t matter, your sanity matters and he doesn’t deserve you. I’ve been seeing a counsellor lately to help me discover what’s wrong. She has suggested without any doubt that he is a narcissist and that his behaviour is unacceptable, it’s gaslighting and abusive. I don’t disagree with her. My problem is though, even though I know in my heart I should leave him, people stay in marriages that are much worse, am I making a mistake to leave him and my home, everything I’ve worked for to have to start all over again (I turned 50 this year). I’d appreciate any pearls of wisdom 💔

    #448008
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Claire:

    First, in response to your question: “Am I in a toxic relationship?” — yes, of course. That part is very clear.

    Your husband’s behavior reminds me so much of my mother’s. There was her “ideal self” — and in your husband’s case: “he was kind and caring and protective… he was perfect around the house, helpful.”

    And then there was her “activated self” — for your husband: “he yelled at me, saying this was typical of me — not caring about other people. For several minutes, he hurled very personal insults at me and then went silent… The same thing happened again — a tirade of nonstop insults and an oppressive air of rage and anger hit me like a whirlwind… Afterwards, he would sulk.”

    This activated self is rooted in his past trauma. Someone in his early life — a parent, perhaps — didn’t truly care about him. Someone hurt him deeply. And now, from time to time, he projects that person onto you.

    Does that ring true to you?

    Warmly, Anita

    #448014
    Claire
    Participant

    Hi Anita,
    thank for kindly taking the time to write. Yes it absolutely does ring true. My husband was abandoned when his mother died at age 9 and whilst he quickly found himself with loving step parents I believe he has trauma. His adult life started when he left home at 16 to join the army and although he has fond memories of these times, he also tells me how traumatic and difficult these were too. I do believe that this bares much significance to him now and he likely many issues he has not yet dealt with. I accept this but I also cannot be the one who absorbs and carries this for him, especially given how it causes me to experience deep frustration and sadness. It has literally ground me down, every time it happens it saps the life out of me, it exhausts me. I desperately want it to work but his reluctance to accept any accountability whatsoever makes me feel that he is unable to change unless he accepts that his outbursts are irrational and harmful. I have made a plan to leave him but I still just don’t know if this is the right thing to do, even though I know that way he treats me is wrong.

    #448015
    anita
    Participant

    Claire. I am using my phone. So my message will be short: I was amazed to read that his trauma consists of his mother dying when he was 9÷ that’s the exact age my mother was when her mother died

    It is interesting how similarly they responded to the same trauma: the loss of their mother at 9.

    I will write more later.

    #448016
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Claire:

    Again, your toxic relationship—though in a romantic context—reminds me so much of my decades-long toxic relationship with my mother.

    “I also cannot be the one who absorbs and carries this for him, especially given how it causes me to experience deep frustration and sadness.”-

    Too much empathy for him? So much that he takes center stage and you’re lost in the background—as in, his trauma, his pain matter so much… that you don’t?

    “Every time it happens it saps the life out of me, it exhausts me.”-

    Absorbing my mother’s trauma, absorbing her pain while I didn’t matter… it sapped the life out of me too. I was the most exhausted child—teenager—in the world.

    “I desperately want it to work but his reluctance to accept any accountability whatsoever makes me feel that he is unable to change.”-

    My mother was unable to change. A hint of changing meant too much pain, too much fear for her. Imagine being terrified of heights… you’re not going to consider jumping out of an airplane.

    “I have made a plan to leave him but I still just don’t know if this is the right thing to do, even though I know the way he treats me is wrong.”-

    I suppose this is because he matters. He’s on center stage… and where are you, in the picture?

    Warmly, Anita

    #448019
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Claire

    I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your husband. ❤️

    Very interesting that you say he used to be in the army and his first outburst was triggered by a loud noise. A very common trigger for people who have been in the army by the way.

    The army is very abusive, ontop of the trauma of war. They also train you not to care about things as much. He likely has quite severe PTSD. I’m guessing that he isn’t being treat for it? If he isn’t willing to seek treatment there is nothing you can do. You can only help someone who is trying to help themselves.

    That he apologised the first time he had an outburst, tells me that he knows it’s wrong and he’s at fault. He doesn’t like feeling of being at fault or blamed and deflects it onto you. It is a shame that he has fixated inappropriately on you as the cause of his triggers, instead of understanding that his severe PTSD is the cause of both of your woes.

    Like you said. You can’t be the one to carry all of this for him. In the past, the good outweighed the bad. Now, all of the bad weighs on you. The good is outweighed. You are suffering. You deserve peace, happiness and safety. ❤️

    It is natural to be sad about the changes involved with separation. It is not an easy thing.

    The difficulty with PTSD and the frequent arguing is that the nervous system gets dysregulated. It becomes harder and harder to control emotions. It takes a lot effort and professional support to calm this type of situation down. It can’t be just one person trying.

    His PTSD will calm down if you separate. It might be the kindest thing to do for both of you if he won’t get treatment.

    It is not easy to see someone you love, consumed by their poor mental health. You can’t go down with him though.

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