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    Lauren
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    I am 32. My partner is 44 and he and I were together for 3 years. Last year we decided to have a baby but had a silent miscarriage at 12 weeks.
    We always fought but since I lost the baby I had a lower tolerance and expected a bit more support from him.
    He says that the baby didn’t feel real to him yet, so I don’t think he is grieving.
    He just seems to be in his own world, he is not affectionate or loving, and he says I’m controlling.
    We tried counselling but I just got to the point where I couldn’t take it any more and I ended it today.
    I’m so sad, after all we went through and were looking ahead to in the future. I now don’t think I will have a family as I feel like by the time I meet the right person it will be too late.

    #94391
    Anonymous
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    Dear Lauren:

    I read your distress and worry about not having the family you wish to have.

    Would you like to look into this relationship more? Will it be helpful to try and learn something more from it?

    If so, can you share about what happened in counseling, what it was you couldn’t take anymore there, in the counseling process?

    anita

    #94395
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Lauren,

    I’ve been through two miscarriages, and in a way it was harder for my husband because ~ he didn’t know how to react, or even how he should be feeling! He would make clumsy efforts to comfort me which of course, I “snapped away”. Then I too didn’t think he was grieving enough or at all. But in a weird, inexplicable way he was.

    For us, the baby in us is real, physical. For them it is an idea, a concept. Then when we lose the physical baby there is blood, torment and a huge hormone dump. For them they don’t see (necessarily) the blood or feel the feelings. They just see a distraught woman. They try in their dopey ways to “be there” but then we lose it.

    I would say maybe, perhaps, give him another chance. His reaction is, sadly, typical. Of course, this miscarriage may also highlight relationship difficulties which were already there. It’s up to you.

    Best,

    Inky

    #94549
    Lauren
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    It wasn’t the counselling I couldn’t take- it was his inaction and unwillingness to DO anything. For example, I moved out for a while and our counsellor suggested we meet once a week and have some kind of discussion to work towards healing the relationship. I asked him if he would like to nominate a topic for the first week. He suggested we talk about some things we each could do as individuals to improve our relationship. Great idea, I thought. Really impressed.
    Well, when we met up, I brought up the discussion. He had completely forgotten that we were supposed to discuss something and he had forgotten the topic he nominated. He had not thought anything over to talk about.
    Basically our relationship has been floundering for months. During this time I have read books about relationships, tried to do various nice things for us like take him to see comedy or away camping. He has remained surly and moody, and has not done anything proactive or even started a conversation. When asked what he wants or how things can be better he says I control and nag him (just general household and relationship stuff- he has never ever cleaned our toilet, floors, or bathroom, and he never cooks). I try to ask really politely about how we can share chores, but no matter how I phrase it he interprets it as being nagged and controlled. He has acknowledged this in counselling- that this is because of his controlling father, he is hypersensitive to being told/asked to do things.
    I have tried to help by just letting things go, but then weeks go by and I get no attention, love, affection or household help from him, so that doesn’t work either.

    Inky I hope you’re right- the loss has been very big for me. And I feel abandoned by him as he has kind of acted like it never happened. Perhaps more counselling can help us, because I miss the loving guy I knew before.

    #94556
    Nan
    Participant

    Hi Lauren,
    The prior post concerned me. The statement he made, about the excuse of his controlling father and that is why he acts the way he does. It smells like an excuse. Be aware that he is basically saying ” I cant help it, take it or leave it”… if he doesnt show interest or need to change.
    Why does he get an excuse and you have to swallow it? I have swallowed this for 35 years and realize I kept bending to him and never thinking I needed attention, love or affection. Continue therapy, but with your eyes open. I wasted 35 years in a marriage the same non-attention, love or affection. It was always “my fault somehow” when I tried to make things better. The problem was always me, not him, in his eyes.
    Counseling helps, as long as the therapist hears both sides without judgement, and the couple make efforts. Is he making efforts after counseling, or is it still your problem, without changes from his side? Seems he likes his live-in housekeeper and maid, and doesn’t feel he needs to make changes. Dont have a baby in this unstable environment, It would be sad. HOw much are you willing to bend?

    #94557
    Nan
    Participant

    Latest Quote
    “You teach people how to treat you by what you allow, what you stop, and what you reinforce.” ~Tony Gaskins

    The quote above, is from the front page of this site…saw it today.

    #94568
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lauren:

    He doesn’t want to be “controlled” that is, to be told what to do. As abusively, insensitively controlling as his father probably was, what you need in the relationship is not controlling. It only seems to him as controlling. And so, he just wants to be left alone, to not deal with … another person. He withdrew from his father at the time, probably, knowing he can’t please his father, he gave up on trying and he is stuck at that stage, having given up. This is my view of what is possibly going on with him.

    To be ‘unstuck” from that stage of withdrawal and wanting to be left alone, not engaged, he needs to confront the relationship with his father, in therapy, to “see” the child that he was, reaching out again and again to a father who did not give him the love he needed no matter how hard he tried to please his father.. He would need to endure the awareness of that pain and in the process, open his eyes to what is really happening in his life.

    This is a process that takes a lot, a whole lot of willingness and commitment from a person. It is not easy. And most people will not go through such a thing. Most people will acknowledge something, but not follow through with that bit of awareness so to increase it.

    If you see no motivation on his part, then there is none and there is nothing you can do about it. I don’t think you are too old to find love, although biology speaks for itself regarding having biological children…

    Please do post again. I would like to know, if you talk to him further about things, what his responses are etc. Hope to read from you again!

    anita

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