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May 27, 2025 at 2:21 pm #446337
omyk
ParticipantThank you for checking on me, Anita. I am ok.
I was really struggling because my birthday was on the horizon. It turned out ok. I had some friends over, I cooked for them, and we had a nice conversation.
I have a lot of days with wide-ranging emotions. Sometimes I wake up and feel anxious, without much hope, and the day gets better. Other days begin calm, but descend into difficulty. So highs and lows often in the same day, though not always.
There are two constants.
The first is wanting to simplify life, to downsize. I have made that a longer-term goal.
The second is wondering if I will ever choose what I want for myself over what others ask of me.
I’m not really sure how that’s going to go. It sounds achievable, but I find myself struggling to set much of anything or any time aside for me.
Thank you for your care for the people who visit this Forum – and this is for all of you, knowing that many of you have interacted with me on multiple occasions.
Sending good vibes and sincere prayers for all of you –
Omyk
May 27, 2025 at 8:30 pm #446344anita
ParticipantDear Omyk:
You are welcome!
“There are two constants. The first is wanting to simplify life, to downsize. I have made that a longer-term goal.
The second is wondering if I will ever choose what I want for myself over what others ask of me.”-
The first seems like an obvious choice—something essential for your own well-being.
As for the second, I wonder if journaling might help—whether privately or here, on your thread. You could explore your thoughts freely, writing whatever comes to mind about what you would do if you had no concern at all about what others ask or might ask of you..?
anita
May 28, 2025 at 1:43 pm #446376Alessa
ParticipantHi Omyk
Belated Happy Birthday! 🎂 I’m glad it turned out okay in the end.
That’s understandable. There is something about being a parent that leaves you with no time and has you putting other people before yourself. And your ministry role puts you in that position too.
When your child flies the nest, you may find that life opens up for you a bit. You mentioned before you were thinking about where you’ll live next. I think that it should be your decision because you are the one who will ultimately be spending the next stage of your life there.
It is your opportunity to find yourself again and pat yourself on the back for a job well done raising your child. I’m sure they don’t understand how much you have done for them. No child does. They will in time when they have their own children. 😊
Praying for protection for you and your family as you find your way on this journey called life.🙏❤️
June 13, 2025 at 2:47 pm #446819omyk
ParticipantHello,
Today is a good illustration of just how complex figuring out one’s life can feel.
Attended a big conference last week and received more validation for the work I have done than I had in the previous several years. It was stressful, we were on a tight schedule, and it was very hot outside. I was home for only a couple of days before going to another conference that was satisfying professionally, though i don’t know people who participate in this particular group.
I have had more meals with people in the last two weeks than I normally do in 4-5 months. I talked a lot of shop and did a great deal of business.
And yet, it still feels like it is lacking for me. I feel terrible even writing that sentence, but- it’s true.
It seems to be a craving for a different kind of connection with people. I noted that I have turned to work social events for my own social life, and while I have enjoyed it to some degree, I find something I’m searching for to be missing.
I guess the lesson is that the kind of personal engagement I’m searching for doesn’t come easily and will continue to take effort, maybe outside of work contexts. Maybe that means I have to take some risks I have shelved for some time.
Thanks for listening!
Omyk
June 14, 2025 at 10:21 am #446827anita
ParticipantDear Omyk:
I want to go back to something you shared on July 23, 2024: “A huge part of my upbringing was constantly obtaining approval of elders… I sense that I have been shape to act in ways that others approve of – even if they’re not here to signal their approval! So, I’m working on that right now. It is really hard work to unlearn and then learn a new way of thinking!”-
Your sense of worth was built around external approval rather than internal fulfillment. Even though the people who shaped this behavior, the elders, are no longer present, you still felt compelled to act in ways that align with external expectations.
In general, when a child is consistently expected to obey elders—especially in environments where questioning, expressing emotion, or asserting personal needs are discouraged—the child begins to suppress or repress their emotions as a survival strategy. The child learns to hide their emotions (“Don’t cry,” “Be strong,” “You must respect your elders”).
Over time, the child may no longer even recognize what they’re feeling, because they’ve internalized the belief that certain feelings are unsafe or unacceptable.
Both mechanisms (repression and suppression) disconnect the child from their authentic emotional experience.
This disconnection creates an inner split: the child acts in alignment with external expectations while ignoring or denying their internal world. That dissonance—between what they feel and what they are “allowed” to show—can lead to chronic anxiety. The body knows something’s off, even if the mind can’t name it.
The child grows up with difficulty identifying their needs, or feeling guilty for having them. They may develop a hyper-awareness of others’ emotions while neglecting their own—often called “fawning” or people-pleasing. Over time, this can lead to anxiety, low self-worth, or even depressive patterns because the true self feels unseen or unacceptable.
Fast forward to yesterday, June 13 you shared: “I have had more meals with people in the last two weeks than I normally do in 4-5 months. I talked a lot of shop and did a great deal of business. And yet, it still feels like it is lacking for me…It seems to be a craving for a different kind of connection with people.”-
Reading your words, I can’t help but feel that what you’re seeking might not only be connection with others—but also a deeper connection with yourself. The kind that affirms your own desires and needs, not just the ones shaped by expectation or external validation.
You’ve spent a lifetime earning approval—from elders, from professional circles, from the roles you’ve held—and you’ve done it with depth and integrity. But what happens when that external applause doesn’t touch the part of you that longs to be seen for who you are, not just what you accomplish?
When you mentioned the recent social engagements—the meals, the conversations, the recognition—and still described a sense of lack, it felt like a quiet truth speaking through the noise: that no amount of “fitting in” will satisfy the deeper longing to belong to yourself.
Maybe what’s missing isn’t just intimacy with others, but the inner intimacy that arises when you no longer abandon your own voice to meet expectations—especially those planted in you long ago by people who are longer be present, yet whose influence still echoes.
just wanted to say thank you, Omyk, for the courage it takes to share what you do. You’re not alone in this inquiry, and what you’re uncovering is deeply meaningful—not just for you, but for those of us listening, reflecting, growing alongside you.
If any part of this resonates, I’d be honored to keep exploring it with you. And if it stirs something entirely different, I’d welcome hearing that, too. You deserve space not only to be heard, but to be understood—on your terms, in your own time.
With warmth and respect, Anita
June 15, 2025 at 12:12 am #446832Alessa
ParticipantHi Omyk
Congratulations on all of the professional success! It sounds like you’ve been incredibly busy. I can imagine that cramming the socialising of 4-5 months into such a short period whilst you are stressed being so busy is a bit overwhelming.
It’s another time, where you pushed your needs aside to get on with the task at hand. Well done on taking care of your responsibilities and providing for yourself and your family, but I hope that you can find some time to unwind a little somehow after all of that. You’ve worked really hard and deserve to relax after all of that. ❤️
I feel like work socialization is pretty surface level unless you particularly trust and click with someone. What do you think? You seem like you have a rich inner life which you might not necessarily share with colleagues?
What are you ideally looking for in socialization? Emotional support? To discuss your inner world? Something else? What kind of people do you enjoy spending time with?
I feel like it is harder to socialize as an adult. Everyone has their own busy lives. It takes time to build a strong connection with people, if they want it. A lot of people don’t have the time.
Good luck on your journey exploring all of this! ❤️
June 16, 2025 at 5:13 am #446861omyk
ParticipantDear Anita and Alessa,
Thank you very much for your thoughtful posts. You have given me a lot of material for reflection. These are very good questions and I will respond later on Monday, June 16.
With gratitude,
Omyk
June 16, 2025 at 11:07 am #446879anita
ParticipantDear Omyk: Thank you so much for your kind message. I look forward to hearing your thoughts whenever you feel ready to share—there’s no rush at all.
Wishing you a gentle day ahead.
Warmly, Anita
June 17, 2025 at 7:03 am #446907omyk
ParticipantHaving a few days to myself to let it all sink in is helpful. I see some things with greater clarity now.
I think, Anita, that you have identified something that has also come out in therapy – my tendency to stifle my own needs because I feel like I owe it to someone else to put theirs first. I struggled with this for a while because service is important and strong relationships include service (or acts of service, for those who prefer the love languages). But I think it became habitual in me, maybe even a part of my personality, to constantly accommodate everyone else, sometimes at my own expense. I even found myself on this last trip asking, why do I feel bad about taking an afternoon to rest after a bad night’s sleep, especially when I had already fulfilled my primary commitment. It’s as if I am constantly wondering if everyone is satisfied with my contributions. I even remember hearing this put into words in numerous family contexts as a child, going to some length to make sure that someone else is “happy” – usually my mother or grandfather. My late wife challenged that presupposition in me when she said “you’re not responsible for my happiness” on more than one occasion.
I find the process of trying to relearn all of this – what I really like and how I truly find satisfaction – to be challenging. But I am delighting in very small successes, like breaking my own self-imposed rules to eat what I wanted for dinner the other night.
Alessa, I think you’re right about socialization. I am trying to learn to accept that there are limits to what people can invest in professional social situations. I’m trying to open my eyes to see that people are giving me quite a bit and to be grateful for it. My own personal observation is that making the kinds of very close connections I am seeking is not easy and that I might need to revise my own expectations – and also be brutally honest with my own commitments to others in these interactions.
Thanks for listening – one day at a time!
Omyk
June 17, 2025 at 9:03 am #446913anita
ParticipantDear Omyk:
You wrote in the original post in this thread (April 28): “I am trying to get to the bottom of my difficulty in forming deep friendships. And to get to the point, this is about truly loving another and others, and to truly be loved by them. Not just romantic love, but depth—someone you yearn to communicate with in some way, every day. Yearning, desire, not only sexual, maybe not sexual at all, maybe very personal. It is a huge deficit in my life. I feel respected, definitely—but am frustrated at repeated failures in sustaining true loving relationships.”-
That kind of clarity and vulnerability already holds a lot of strength.
When closeness is built around pleasing others and neglecting oneself, it can feel stable on the surface—but underneath, it often lacks the depth we’re truly hungry for. You may be well-liked or even admired, but not fully known or cherished—because so much energy is spent trying to be agreeable, safe, acceptable.
And here’s what often hurts most: the fear that if someone really saw your full self—your contradictions, your limits, your awkwardness—they might not stay. So you withhold. And the connections you form might feel hollow, not because they’re bad, but because they’re built on a version of you that doesn’t show the whole truth.
Today, you shared: “I am delighting in very small successes, like breaking my own self-imposed rules to eat what I wanted for dinner the other night.”-
I think that’s not just small—it’s deeply meaningful. That one choice, to listen inward and act from desire rather than obligation, is a quiet but powerful form of self-assertion. It’s you choosing yourself—not in rebellion, but in restoration.
You might begin to reconnect to your full self by making space for:
One honest opinion a day, even if it’s small
One “no” that protects your energy, even if it feels awkward
Journaling or voicing your uncensored thoughts, even just to yourself
Asking for something, even modest—and letting yourself receive it
You’ve spent years adjusting your shape for others. You’re allowed now to explore your own contours again—with curiosity instead of apology.
Performing connection feels familiar. But risking realness—that’s where depth starts.
I believe in the version of you that’s quietly coming into focus. And I believe others will too—when you let them meet you, not just your pleasing.
Warmly, Anita
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