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  • #106211
    Anonymous
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    I’ll try not to make this too long.

    I’ve worked with someone in my insurance job for around a year.
    Let’s call him Dan.

    Dan is a drug-dealer, on the side.
    He’s not very subtle about it, but is clearly not worried about getting caught.
    He has an air of confidence, as if he is untouchable.
    He can, also, at times come across as likeable and charming … which makes things more difficult.

    There have been a dozen or so occasions where Dan has undermined me and made me feel bullied. I sit next to him (not a choice) and on one occasion, I was getting pretty sick of the subtle abuse and felt like I was allowing Dan to walk over me. (i.e. flicking elastic bands at me, teasing me for being vegetarian, calling me queer/fag – I have a girlfriend, but am a sensitive/ somewhat quiet and introverted guy – and following me to the toilets to turn the lights off, literally every time I go).

    He’s several years older than me (I’m 26) and comes across as very immature. He’s also a BIG dude, and doesn’t seem to care about anything, or be afraid of anything. He’s often getting told off for using his phone at his desk and sometimes disappears for 40 minutes, though nobody else seems to notice this and the manager is too much of a pushover to put her foot down.

    With his drug money, he goes out and drinks A LOT. He often seems like he is off his face at work and it’s embarrassing that he hasn’t lost his job, while other people are wanting to find work.
    I try to be understanding of people – he is obviously the opposite of me, and we come from different backgrounds – but I can’t help but resent someone who picks on me constantly.

    It tends to only happen when my manager is away from her desk, or off work.
    At times, we have banter and I go along with it.
    However, sometimes I feel more reserved (suffering with anxiety) and just want to be left alone.
    He’ll come up behind me and make me jump, because he is so unmotivated by regular life (my analysis of the situation) and cannot just do what he paid for. I find it affects my concentration a lot, and on my more anxious days, I feel on edge because I’m waiting for the next thing he will do. I end up getting angry and sometimes go home with a headache and beat the crap out of my pillows. Once or twice, I’ve started ranting to my family that I just don’t give a shit anymore. Fuck life, it’s shit (etc).

    I’m starting to feel there is no solution, but what would you advise someone to do in this situation?
    Running away (i.e. quitting the job) seems like he is winning and I’m not being a man.
    Standing up to him or retaliating only makes things worse.
    Trying to have an adult conversation and asking him to stop would be moronic.
    Asking to change seats would tip him off to the fact he really fucking grates on me.

    Ignoring him doesn’t work either. It’s literally like being in High School.
    He only works a regular job so he doesn’t get looked into by the police (as I know he has before, following a near prosecution for being in possession of cocaine. Dan wasn’t the only person involved, though, so they didn’t have enough evidence to convict him of anything… he was just under close observation for months).

    When Dan once took some of my personal things and wouldn’t give them back while at work (I know, this sounds like the stupidest shit ever), I got fed up and emailed the department manager asking her to speak to him. He gave my things back, but threatened that if I ever got him in trouble, or made him lose his job, he’d beat the shit out of me. I said if he did that, he would find the police on his door step (given the information he has told me, I would be pretty helpful to the cops). In retaliation to that comment, he said I would end up in a box and he knows my address.

    Before I stood up to him in this way, he used to say he could find out people’s address.
    I thought he was talking rubbish so challenged him to find mine.
    It’s probably not that hard with websites like 192.com, but the fact he knows my address makes me feel threatened.

    Honestly, I’d love to tell the police about him being a drug dealer.
    But I worry something would happen to my family or me.
    I don’t doubt he has dangerous friends (a few of his are in prison).
    And he’s not acting… he’s taken cocaine at work a few times (he has shown me the magical white powder that seems to give him so much joy) and he has a second (shitty) phone for his drug dealing. He once came to work with over £600 in his wallet (from one night’s sales).

    It makes me so angry that he is getting away with this and I’d love to see some justice.
    I feel weak and like a little pussy for letting him walk over me, but what the hell does someone do in this situation?

    Fear can be so powerful, and there is really nothing I can do.
    I just want to know how to approach situations like this, because it could happen again in the future.

    If I didn’t know him better (I see him an uncaring and therefore dangerous), I wouldn’t worry about it.
    But I think he still holds the time I ‘dobbed’ on him against me.

    A customer once complained about him and I saw him write the guy’s address down.
    He obviously doesn’t care much for the law.
    I asked him if he would really do something, and he said when the person would never suspect it were him.
    It’s like something out of breaking bad.

    If I tell the cops, he will likely go to prison (because he’s stupid enough to reveal where he hides his money to me) but I put myself and my family in danger.

    If I do nothing, he carries on getting away with it.

    I feel so frustrated and would really appreciate some points of view.
    HELP!
    I hate feeling like a powerless boy.

    #106218
    Adam P
    Participant

    Hey there Dude,
    First off my sympathy to you due to the fact that no one should ever go to work in such a hostile environment. I had issues such as yourself with a coworker although it was not that extreme. I asked to have my seat relocated to get away from the passive aggressive and immature behavior. I never looked back and sent the strongest message I could. Whatever you do, do not confront him and let him play his little games. Let life take of him. Don’t have any shame or fear about changing your seat. What’s the worse that could happen, your production and self worth improves. Laugh off any threat or attack he may say to you because it will come back and bite him.
    Thank you and take care
    -85

    #106230
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Dude:

    If looking for another place of employment is possible and doesn’t involve a significantly lower pay, that would be a no brainer for me- I would change jobs. It is not letting him win (he is already winning!)- it is saving yourself, protecting yourself.

    Every day you stay in your current situation at work, you are letting him win. If you find another job and leave, you will be taking away his daily toy, and that is you winning.

    anita

    #106266
    Mimi
    Participant

    I completely agree with Anita. My husband had to deal with a whole lot of young female bullies at his job (corporate headquarters for a department store), and it stressed him out so much that it eventually contributed to his heart attack. He still went back to that job, but then luckily, subconsciously, said something that got him fired (I had been begging him to quit, but he wouldn’t do it. His supervisor would do nothing about the jerks, and neither would Human Resources. They were all just lazy and also afraid to do anything.

    You’re only harming yourself by staying there, and you could actually be harming your health in the long run. Protecting yourself is the only motivation you need for leaving. You don’t need to fix the situation, turn the guy in, or anything. Just keep yourself safe. It’s not weak. It’s choosing your own better path in life.

    #106288
    Maria_L
    Participant

    Hello,

    I have to say, unfortunately, I have to agree with the last two posts. I have been also in hostile work environment for 3 years, not like this though, no one threatened my life. Tried everything from standing up to them to ‘going under the radar’. i know nothing works. The only thing that goes away is your joy and your good health.

    And how is he with other co-workers? Isn’t anyone else complaining? I am sure you are not the first or the last of his victims. And do you have an information that he actually harmed anyone? I had a neighbour who used to make threats like these all the time,’I’ll find you… etc’… and found I them intimidating, most of the people did. But when I think back, he was just ‘barking’, never did anything.

    In these situations I also blame managers, I’ve seen plenty of situations where good people quit, and someone like him stays… and the company loses money everytime a good employee leaves. So it’s not your defeat, it’s theirs. You’ll be valued somewhere else better I am sure. He is not winning, they are not winning. And given his criminal nature, you don’t have to threaten or lift a finger, these people get in problems up to their neck, before you blink. They are target to the police, but also to other criminals like them. And good old karma… 🙂 It will get him, without an address.

    Some ‘fights’ are just not worth it….

    #106326
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks all… I really do appreciate you taking the time to read and reply.

    Something I didn’t mention in my post, as to not overcomplicate it, is that today was his last day.
    Our workplace announced redundancy some months ago, so he got a new job.

    I start a new one too, in a couple weeks.

    I mainly just wrote because I didn’t want to feel helpless if this were to happen again.
    But I agree that sometimes all you can do is get the hell away from people like that.

    Feeling on edge all day is definitely not good for my health, and it has a negative effect on everything.
    I get stressed and then end up losing my patience with the wrong people (those I care about).

    It’s odd, because he could sometimes be a laugh and I’d start to think I was wrong… Maybe I was over-reacting or being too sensitive.
    And then the manager would be away, he’d have been binge drinking and was seemingly on drugs at work, and he would start reminding me why I wanted to punch him in the first place.

    The fact his friends (some of them) are in prison and his dealings with drugs make me feel like his threats or hints towards doing something are real. But I played along with his dumb acts at work today and left it on a note that we were ‘friends’, though neither of us mentioned catching up or staying in contact. Hopefully I won’t stumble upon him any time soon. OR EVER.

    He seemed to just pick on me and nobody else, probably because we got paired together and I’d talk to him.
    Other people are sat more out the way and are able to have only short conversations.

    Also, because I’m quite reserved and a classic ‘nice guy’, I’m probably an easy target for immature chav-like people.
    I expect he thought we were friends at times, but I don’t even think he knows where his head is at after a 4 day weekend stint on the booze and whatever concoction of drugs he happens to be taking.

    When I first met him and told him I find it hard to relax sometimes, he started saying he never worries about anything.
    He made out his life was altogether and one big party, but as time went on, it was obvious his life is rather shit.
    He cannot bare to do a day’s work, because he is an addict and just wants his next high.
    Pretty pathetic, really.

    I think I will just sigh in relief and not worry. I really didn’t do anything worthy of him showing up on my door-step, and I’m sure he has bigger enemies than me to worry about. The thing that happened between us was several months back, but I just got the impression he would hold a grudge (narcissist style).

    Given how non-nonchalant he is about his drug habits (though nobody else really knows he is a dealer), I’m sure he will end up getting himself caught. The smug ‘Nobody can touch me’ would wind me up, but it only causes stress to imagine someone like that will get off, Scott-free. I hope Karma will do it’s bit, because I’m sure he has ruined plenty of lives with his drug providing and potential aggressiveness.

    I think he would have been fired from this job, had it not been for the redundancy.
    Over the last few months, everyone has been slacking and so he hasn’t been singled out so much.
    My manager is oblivious to a lot of what he is like, though over the last 2 weeks, she has had a hint at how difficult he can be to deal with.

    I’m sure she shares some relief in his leaving.

    Night.

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