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  • #446293
    anita
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    I woke up far too early this rainy Monday morning and had been feeling low—until I came across this line in the title of this thread. I realized I had spent the morning wrapped in worry, feeling scared for someone I care about deeply. But when I read these words, I smiled, because they shifted my focus from fear to love. That simple change made all the difference. I want to keep choosing love over fear, again and again.

    If you are reading this, I would love to read your thoughts.

    anita

    #446304
    anita
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    About LOVE-

    What is love? Well, there’s a song with this title, it says:

    “What is love? Oh, baby, don’t hurt me Don’t hurt me, no more Oh, baby, don’t hurt me Don’t hurt me, no more…
    Woah-woah-woah-woah Oh-woah-woah, uh-huh Woah-woah-woah-woah Oh-woah-woah, uh-huh”-

    This kind of love sounds painful and unintelligent.

    So, the answer is not in that song.

    Or maybe it is.

    No it isn’t.

    So, what is love?

    I say it’s a feeling of goodwill: a friendly, helpful, cooperative attitude toward others; kindness, positive intentions. It’s not about being Right and the other being Wrong (except when it comes to harmful actions). It’s about live-and-let-live- with acceptance, kindness and tolerance of differences.

    It’s about not holding grudges against others just because they have a different understanding of things.

    For me, to love someone successfully means to make them FEEL accepted unconditionally, no pressure to be or become anything other than what he- or she- already is.

    I said “to love successfully” right above because, well, like the song I started this post with.. love can hurt. Well, if it hurts, it was unsuccessful.

    Life hurts, Love doesn’t hurt.

    anita

    #446336
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    It is not easy worrying about loved ones. I hope that everything will be okay! ❤️

    My son has been ill and he was not himself. Not wanting to eat, or walk, or play with his toys and sleeping for most of the day. I was worried about him. Fortunately, he is starting to feel better already and has some pep back in his step.

    It is a blessing to have people to worry about. Choosing to focus on the love is a beautiful realisation. ❤️

    I have a different perspective on love. I think it’s complicated. People are fallible and make mistakes. The need for unconditional love is a human need. Yet, it seems to be getting rarer in this world. That is not to say that people should accept abuse. When lives are not compatible it is necessary to part ways, so everyone can move on and be happy.

    #446343
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    Thank you! I am glad your son is getting better!

    “People are fallible and make mistakes. The need for unconditional love is a human need.”- very true, Alessa. So very true.

    “When lives are not compatible it is necessary to part ways, so everyone can move on and be happy.”- I wonder if this means what I think it means, based on things you shared and later deleted. If it means what I think it means, I am sorry, Alessa. This must be very difficult for you. I wish it wasn’t what (I think) it is.

    It makes me sad (again, I am assuming I know the context) because of all the positive things you shared in the past about the relationship, all your loving and caring emotions and thoughtfulness.

    You are strong to be going through this and yet being as caring and empathetic as you are here, in the foorums. You are the bee’s knees, Alessa! ❤️

    anita

    #446371
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    So, what is love? I like how you focus kindness, goodwill, and unconditional acceptance.
    I would challenge love as a feeling or attitude. Emotions, feathers caught up in the wind, Feelings become a state of mind defined by thought and mind.

    Life hurts, Love doesn’t hurt? I used to wonder about this and today would argue that Life is Love. Life hurts when be measure “love” and entangle it with attachment, fear, and dependency. Perhaps a ‘cosmic’ view… I’ve argued before that I convinced myself that Love has no opposite. Its is, and we are that. A “cosmic” view I trust that isn’t disconnected from the personal, but its source?

    “Where there is love, there is no pain, no conflict. Pain arises when love is entangled with the self.” – Krishnamurti
    I don’t take that to mean we should avoid engaging the self in life, life is movement were the self plays a important role. But I do think life calls us to awaken to the reality that engaging the self opens the door to pain, and not a flaw. Pain not the failure of love, but rather an attribute of love and an open heart.

    As you have hinted its possible, if not likely, I hide behind behind the comic view to avoid pain of vulnerability… Yet since engaging with the question ‘What’s love got to do with it’ (referred to in other posts) I haven’t escape pain and in some ways feel it more deeply if… different.

    #446374
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    “Life hurts when we measure ‘love’ and entangle it with attachment, fear, and dependency. Perhaps a cosmic view”- I see why you stay away from getting entangled in attachment and why the cosmic view is attractive. I think that it will do me some good to get more into the cosmic view of love. It’s comforting.

    “’Where there is love, there is no pain, no conflict. Pain arises when love is entangled with the self.’ – Krishnamurti”- Untangled Peter is a Free Peter, or freer..?

    “As you have hinted it’s possible, if not likely, I hide behind the cosmic view to avoid pain of vulnerability”- hiding is not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes, it’s a good thing. It’s a good thing to hide from a threat, a threat like getting entangled and losing control, or agency.

    “Yet since engaging with the question ‘What’s love got to do with it’ (referred to in other posts) I haven’t escape pain and in some ways feel it more deeply if… different.”- .. entangled in cosmic love?

    I may be talking nonsense, right above, Cosmic No- Sense (CNS). I wrote whatever came to mind, untangling myself from the need to make sense 😊

    anita

    #446379
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Everyone

    Thank you for your kind thoughts! ❤️ Sorry Anita, I’m not discussing my personal life on the forum.

    I feel like fearing rejection is a craving for love. I feel like expressing painful feelings is a craving for love. To me, love is more than just pleasant feelings, there are painful sides to it too.

    I feel like the difference is a perception of being open or closed to another person. Being closed is usually an effort to protect ourselves. It is interesting learning to be more open. Seeing that it is all just love.

    For me, being open or closed to other people is a choice, no longer simply an instinct. That is not to say that all feelings are aligned. I have complex feelings and can feel multiple things simultaneously. I think it’s important to hold space for all of the feelings, this way they can move on in their own time.

    #446380
    anita
    Participant

    I understand, Alessa. I didn’t at all expect you to share. Just wanted to let you know that I care and wish you well ✨️

    You have interesting thoughts about love and emotional complexity. I agree- it is important to hold space for all of our feelings. ❤️

    Anita

    #446533
    anita
    Participant

    It takes an intentional practice to redirect attention from Fear to Love, Fear2Love.

    Like this evening, still light outside. No sign of sunset, not even close. Personally, I do not like Night Disguised As Day. (NDAD, I have a thing for acronyms)

    Anyway, anyhow, here I am.

    So, about Love: it’s about being supportive of those we love, including those we don’t necessarily feel love for.

    Love is the commitment and practice to be Gentle with others- not harsh, Empathetic- not judgmental, Positive (focusing on a person’s socially-desirable traits and strengths)- not negative (pointing to a person’s undesirable traits and weaknesses), pointing to a person’s foundation we hope he/ she would be motivated to build on.

    And at the same time, when a person abuses others, love is about protecting the abused from the abusers.

    And in all that, remaining humble and Collaborative (encouraging honest dialogues), rather than being Corrective (telling a person: this is your problem! And this is what you should do!)

    This is ALL I have to say about Love on this Tuesday evening which has no sign of darkness, NDAD..

    I do not love NDADs 😔🥺😢

    Anita

    #446536
    anita
    Participant

    8:37 pm, no sign of darkness, no Sign of Sunset. The light outside is absolute.

    I don’t have heavy curtains that block the sun at 8- 9- 10 pm.

    Don’t feel comfortable with wearing sun blockers when trying to sleep.

    And it’s only early June, it’s going to get so much sunnier at 9 pm, 10 pm, 11 pm.

    I mean, no sign of darkness.

    I hear of prisons where the Light is always On.

    I miss darkness, gentle darkness, the signal that yes.. time to go to bed.

    The persistent, stubborn light..!

    Too close to Alaska.

    * In northern Alaska, places like Utqiaġvik (formerly Barrow) experience 24-hour daylight for about 82 days straight, from early May to late July-

    24-hours daylight.. I should be grateful for 5 hours of darkness hours per NDAD in the summer. More than they get up there.

    Problem is, if I move south, I will be stuck in summers where it’s too HOT and too HUMID to get outside for half of the year, at the least, so people live vampire-like-lives, going outdoors only at nights.

    Climate Change or whatever it is.

    So, I’d rather be here, south of Alaska, because I CAN go out and about during the day, which I greatly appreciate!

    9:03 pm here. Still no darkness. But not that much light as before.

    9:15 pm here, still not dark, still light. Climate-change-panic-moment.

    Two whole hours before it get’s dark.

    Wait, somewhat darker, spring-time-darkness, 9:20 pm.

    It’s just that I need some darkness so to go to bed.

    The birds start their LOUDEST singing at about 3- 4 am. it’s hard to schedule one’s life around all these..

    9:42 pm, yes! It happened, DARK, finally, it just happened- DARKNESS just happened, June 3rd, 9:48 pm, better go to bed

    Good night- Anita

    Anita

    #446629
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    I love your thoughts on love! I agree, it does take intentional practice to choose love over fear. Sometimes easier said than done. Keep up the good work. ❤️

    My boy says the word LOVE when he enjoys something. His pram LOVE! Playing with other children LOVE! Cuddling the puppy LOVE! Being pushed on a swing at the park LOVE! It’s very cute.

    #446637
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    Thank you! It really does take conscious effort to choose love over fear, but every small step in that direction matters. ❤️

    I absolutely love how your boy expresses joy with LOVE!—that’s such a beautiful and pure way to see the world. His little moments of happiness are a reminder of how simple and wholehearted love can be. What a precious perspective to witness. 💛

    Sending warmth your way! Anita

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