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    Sammy
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    Earlier in the year, I connected with someone who I really got on well with. We had the same interests, same sense of humour, everything. After spending a little bit of time with this person, they told me that they liked me (romantically) but that they were scared of getting into anything with someone new (I don’t know why). This person expressed that our hanging out was causing them anxiety; from what I gather, this meant that they were worrying about how to reply to me, etc. I don’t know. I didn’t ask.

    Anyway, after I was told this, things just drifted into a complete radio silence. We saw each other here and there, and on a few occasions this person did ignore me and then come back as if nothing had happened. I last attempted to meet up with this person a few weeks back, but nothing came of it.

    I’m feeling really sad, frustrated, a whole bunch of things about this. I feel as if I’m just not good enough for not only this person, but for anyone I’ve ever been interested in. Whenever I’ve liked someone, they’re either extremely abusive and unhealthy or they’re just not interested in me/prefer someone else. I look around me and all I see is everyone else in relationships – so why then, does it feel so difficult and impossible for me to find anyone? I feel a sense of anger (not sure who or what it’s directed at) that things didn’t progress with this person. I like them a lot, and I thought they liked me.

    I’ve thought about contacting them to tell them how I feel, but the last time I tried to bring up the subject, this person got annoyed with me and criticised my appearance, citing it as a reason for them not wanting to take things further. Yet, despite this, I still like them and find myself wanting to attract their attention. And that makes me feel even worse about myself, that I’m desiring someone who quite clearly has treated me badly already.

    I recently spoke to an ex, who has now met a new partner and they’re heading off on holiday. I feel so pathetic and useless; I can’t even find a partner of my own. And I feel as if it’s some sick joke for the universe to introduce me to this person, someone who I get on with in every aspect, only for it to not go anywhere. I just don’t know what to do, anymore.

    #213469
    Anonymous
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    Dear Sammy:

    I hope that soon enough you will no longer feel hopeless and sad.

    You wrote: “This person expressed that our hanging out was causing them anxiety…this meant that they were worrying.. I don’t know. I didn’t ask”-

    why didn’t you ask?

    Later you wrote: “this person got annoyed with me and criticized my  appearance, citing it as a reason for them not  wanting to take things further”- so this guy volunteered some information to you, and connecting it to what he said before.. maybe your appearance caused him anxiety.

    It is hard to understand things without information. Without information we are left guessing, wondering and assuming and not knowing what to do (“I just don’t know what to do anymore”).

    Back to this person, do you know what about your appearance bothered him?

    * Will be back to the computer in about fifteen hours.

    anita

     

    #213493
    Sammy
    Participant

    Hi,

    No, I was told that the anxiety was coming from worrying about what to say to me, the worry of messing things up, and other things that he didn’t elaborate on. The comment about my appearance came when I expressed I’d like to keep hanging out, how I’d enjoyed his company ad perhaps we could see where things went with each other. On that particular occasion, I’d worn the same top twice in a row; something I never usually do, but I was pressed for time and I’d also made sure it was clean as I wouldn’t have just thrown the same top on. He replied to my comment that I wasn’t making an effort because Id had the same top on and it was a turn off, also that, while the chemistry is ‘undeniable’, that I’m not his usual type, as well as reiterating his stance of anxiety, inner problems, etc. That was the last time I tried to bring anything up to him.

     

    I understand that he doesn’t owe me anything now, but it doesn’t change how I feel about things.

     

     

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by Sammy.
    #213527
    Sammy
    Participant

    It could have well been that my appearance wasn’t up to his usual standards.

    At the time, I was going through a rough period as I’d not long come out of an abusive relationship and traumatic breakup, so I wasn’t looking after myself. I was eating poorly, and as a result had put on a slight amount of weight. I feel frustrated at this because that wasn’t ‘me’, if that makes sense. I usually run four/five times a week, etc. This person happened to catch me at a time when I didn’t feel my best, and I seem to have been rejected because of it.

    That’s no fault of anyone, but I would really have liked to take things further with this person. I really did and do still like him, but now he doesn’t even reply to my messages – I think he’s just generally bad at replying but still, I don’t feel like chasing him.

    I feel worthless not only because of this, but just because I am surrounded by people who don’t really seem to care about me in the same way I care about them. I have another friend who I tried to call a few times (she’d just called me) and she messaged me with “try to have some understanding, I’m caring for a newborn baby” – I felt very patronised at this. I know she’s had a child, I’m not sure why she worded it that way, or tried to make me feel demanding for returning a call. She’s always spoken to me like this, and she makes me feel very low most of the time. I don’t like her, but I talk to her because it’s better than just spending every day alone with my thoughts.

    So I just feel trapped in this unsatisfying world of unhealthy connections and unhappiness.

    #213569
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Sammy:

    If this man was anxious about saying the wrong things to you, not wanting to mess things up, then he did exactly that, saying the wrong things and messing things up. To tell you that you were wearing the same top as once before was the wrong thing to say. None of his business, for one, and rude as well.

    There are rude people in the world. A lot of other people’s behavior is not an indication of something being wrong with you, but something being wrong… with them.

    On the other hand, I don’t have enough information to see how you interact with others, for example with the new mother you mentioned, if you indeed sent her too many messages, I don’t know.

    Best you can do is stay away from rude, disrespectful people on one hand, and on the other, examine your behavior with others, seeing that you stop behaviors that work against you and start or continue behaviors that work for you. In other words, stop doing what is ineffective and do what is effective.

    I hope you post again and if you would like to look further into effective/ ineffective behaviors with others, let me know.

    anita

    #213683
    Sammy
    Participant

    Thank you so much for replying in such detail, Anita.

    In regards to the New Mother Friend – we message each other frequently throughout the day; well, that has been our pattern for years. She has continued this since the birth of the baby, and I of course understand the demands of a new baby – I was merely following the pattern of contact. I am very careful not to appear demanding or whatever, I respect that people have things to do. I was returning a call she’d made an hour previous (I was asleep), and then she sent me that message. I just feel that sometimes she thinks she’s above me, and I know she doesn’t speak to other people in the same way.

    Her and I have a difficult history. She hasn’t treated me well, to the point that partners I’ve had have been concerned about her and the effects she has on my wellbeing. She often blocks me and tells people in her life (other friends, partner, family members) things about me, to the point that none of them like me and her boyfriend despises me, even though I’ve never even met him. She does this about other people to ME, sometimes. She acts as if people are really hurting her and whatever, and plays the victim often. I am by no means perfect, but she is very difficult (several people have told her this about herself, and she often loses friends – apart from me, I can’t think of another person she is in contact with regularly). I accept negative criticisms of myself, but she doesn’t. She blames others for her actions.

    As for the guy; yes, I thought it was rude too. I was paranoid for a good few days after he said that; was I some sort of scruffy, unkempt person? But then I knew he was just being rude – I also didn’t understand what the relevance was, mentioning my appearance. He wears the same clothes often, too. I just don’t get it.

    I really try my best to stay away from rude people. Life is quite short, and who wants to spend it forever dealing with these people? I don’t. I’m curious to hear about the behaviours you mentioned, though.

    #213685
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Sammy!

     

    I sympathize with you. Earlier on this site I wrote about a friend whom I got really close with (or so I thought) and who drifted apart from me for reasons unknown. It really hurt! Apparently her reason was that I had somehow insulted her and her opinions unknowingly. It was upsetting to know that this was the real reason and that she didn’t come straight out and tell me and fixed our friendship.

     

    you are probably also feeling hurt and isolated that someone who you got close to just drifted away from you. Even worse, stangely, is knowing that your ex (someone else that was close) is happy. Kind of makes you feel like everyone around you is happy and their life is flowing uphill while you’re stuck in the sidelines.

    I really do hope that you find someone who feels the same way about you as you do about them. I also want you to remember that you aren’t alone and that other people can feel what you are going through. Thanks for being so brave and reaching out to us to tell your story

    #213755
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Sammy:

    Reads like these two  people are rude and unreasonable people and better have no interactions with either one.

    If a person is rude to you, disrespectful like these two individuals have been, gossiping about you, in the habit of blaming you (and others) and never taking responsibility for their actions, the only effective behavior I can see is, again, having no contact with them.

    When a person says something to you and you don’t understand what they meant, ask what they meant. Then listen to the answer and evaluate it. A person may answer with a non-answer (talking about something else, not addressing the question you asked) or a person may lie. So need to learn to evaluate others’ answers (or non-answers) and learn, over time, who  this person is.

    When you feel that a person “thinks she’s (or he’s) above me”- it may be true, that a person thinks so or it may be  your misunderstanding (projecting past experiences into the present). To figure out whether the person really thinks less of you, look at their behavior, evidence for or against what you suspect. Sort of like a lawyer brining evidence to a courtroom so to prove or disprove an assumption.

    Effective behaviors with others are assertive behaviors, practicing assertiveness. I think it will be a good idea for you to read more about assertive skills, either in a good book or an online source. If you do, I hope you post and let me know about it. Or otherwise, post again, anytime.

    anita

     

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