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  • #125154
    Me as I am
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    I am currently going through my first real break up. The reason why I joined this site is because I need help desperately. I feel like im at the lowest point of my life. Worst part is I could engage in no contact for a while because of vacation days but now im back at university and she’s in my class at university, we were put into the same groups for assignments, we carpool together, I am doing an internship at a company she’s at and the guy she’s now involved with is too. At first when we broke up (august 2016) things were extremely bad. She told me she’s choosing to be alone and not to be with someone else. Which I found out wasn’t the case. The person she chose left her or something to that effect and she started speaking to me in the same we used to speak. Later she told me that it’s just the way she is and that she speaks to everyone that way. She told me there’s no hope for a future between us which I couldn’t believe. I still hoped. We stopped speaking for a while until she reconnected with me before new years eve. I met up with her, we spoke. Nothing more. We then started reconnecting as I thought but a few days ago I found out about the guy from work. We had a conversation about it and both said what we wanted to. She apologized and also tried playing the victim but that’s it. Yesterday I had a really bad day as I cut myself off from her when at university. Everyone knew something had happened and I was asked by a couple of people about it and it just broke me down further. I was having the worst day of my life and yet she was smiling at her texts on her phone. I thought I was doing better towards the end of the day but as we were leaving she told us (my friend whom we travel home with) that she’s going to be picked up by this guy today. I felt broken. How could she do this when she knows how badly I’m hurting. All of this has just been too much for me as it’s been going on since August 2016. Alternate waves of happiness and sadness. I haven’t been myself lately. Spoke to my mom about it and it helps when my mother is around but when she’s not I feel intensely hurt. I do want to feel better and move on but I feel deeply attatched and I cannot free myself. Someone please help me

    #125155
    sf
    Participant

    She is not the one @shaheed. Redirect your energy and thought power to something else, or someone else.
    Time will pass and this will also pass. In a few years it will be like a distant memory and a blessing to not be involved with such person. She will do what she did to you to someone else, and someone else will do that to her – it’s a circle that you don’t want to be a part of.

    Find a greater purpose my friend. This situation will be just something that came and gone – even if it doesn’t feel that way right now. I was once in a similar place, in love to the degree of being possessed with someone that cheated on me. Thought that the hurt will never stop. Fast forward 10 years, I have a family with a loving wife and an adorable daughter.

    And that someone is nothing but a distant memory with no value.

    You will get through this.

    #125156
    Me as I am
    Participant

    Thank you so much @sfw01. I appreciate the advice you’ve given me. She’s not the one I fully agree with you, I’ve came to this conclusion before. I also do try and redirect my energy/thought but it’s really been hard as I’m not entirely sure on how to do this.

    This is just a repeating pattern of feelings that I’ve fallen into again and am trying to free myself from, hence me cutting myself off slowly from her. I just feel so alone because I became used to having someone to speak to and spend time with.

    Once again, thank you so much. This really means a lot to me and I will be regularly reading your reply as I embark on this journey.

    #125159
    zenkoans
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    Shaheed,

    Breaking up is always hard, especially when it is our first love or someone that we feel so attached too for such a long time. I would suggest that if you are interested in understanding love from a totally different perspective that you read a few books by Thich Nhat Hanh, a Vietnamese Buddhist Zen monk who talks about love without attachment, selfishness or desire. In the West, we are caught up with the fairytale “Mr/Ms. Right” which is not what true love is really about. Thich Nhat Hanh explains all of this beautifully and if nothing else, he will offer you some insight about relationships which you have never taught about before.

    I leave you with one last thought – true love must start with you loving yourself first. That takes a lifetime of work but unless you begin with yourself, you will walk around this world half asleep which most people are doing.

    Take care and be wise.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 11 months ago by zenkoans.
    #125181
    Anonymous
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    Dear Shaheed:

    I don’t understand this: did you have an intimate boyfriend/ girlfriend relationship with her? What was the nature of the relationship and how long did it last?

    anita

    #125182
    Me as I am
    Participant

    @anita intimate relationship, by that do you mean a really close and loving relationship? If so then yes.

    We we’re good together, supportive, loving, we were best friends and more.

    It lasted just under a year. Then on and off from there. Don’t get me wrong when she broke up with me I still loved her and was always waiting for that change of heart, I always tried making her see that I was willing to go through whatever obstacle to make things work like they did before she fell in love with the guy who left her. When he left her I thought this is my shot. I had her back for a while until she met this guy at work. I feel really down idk what to do or how to handle this anymore

    #125186
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shaheed:

    So you were close with her while she had a boyfriend, while he left her and she was grieving… and before she had a new boyfriend? Was there always another guy and were the two of you boyfriend/ girlfriend or friends?

    anita

    #125187
    Me as I am
    Participant

    Close while she had a boyfriend. She left him and then we became serious but then she left me for the guy who left her. They weren’t in a relationship where they were actually girlfriend and boyfriend. She told me that she always had feelings for him.

    #125188
    Me as I am
    Participant

    @anita I replied above. I’m not sure if thay makes any sense

    #125189
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shaheed:

    I understand you are grieving some sort of a relationship with her, some sort of closeness, definitely. What is vague is what kind of a relationship she had with you/ you had with her… and what kind of a relationship she had with the guy who left her and for whom she left you for… what is unclear is the definitions of relationships here.

    If the other guy was not her boyfriend, as she told you- then what was he before and what is he now… and what is the nature of the relationship you had with her, from which you are grieving- these are not clear to me and I am thinking, these may not be clear to you either.

    Have to have some definitions, some clearer understanding- I need that. Maybe you need it too? If you do- in future communication with her/ any other woman- talk about the nature of the relationship, what it means, what are the … rules, so to speak. Is it a monogamous bf/ gf relationship? Is it a friendship for the time being, when the two of you are in-between bf/gf relationships with other people..?

    The definitions or rules-of-relating are important because without those, I don’t know what you are grieving- a lost friendship, a loss of physically intimate bf/gf relationship? A betrayal of promises made or a disappointment of things expected or hoped for by one of you, but not discussed with the other…

    anita

    #125226
    Me as I am
    Participant

    Dear @anita

    The relationship she had with me before she left me was a monogamous bf/gf relationship. By monogamous I mean just the two of us. The relationship with ths guy whom she left me for was just a physically intimate friendship, that’s how I see it. She always had feeling/lusted this person.

    What he was before was her friend, I don’t know what he is now. She still seems in love with him even though there’s someone new she’s involved with.

    What I feel I am grieving is a lost friendship as we dont speak anymore, a loss of a physically intimate relationship, betrayl and disappointment.

    I just really need help

    If anything is unclear, please help me be clearer as I am trying to be so I can get help.

    Thank you for this though, I appreciate it

    #125240
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shaheed:

    I re-read all your posts on this thread. Clearly, you are emotionally attached to her and, not being in an intimate relationship with her anymore, hurts, especially since you see her daily and are aware of her dating someone else, a new guy and maybe the old (friends-with-benefits type) guy.

    When you had a monogamous relationship with her, for one year, it meant more to you than it meant to her, seems to me. The two of you have different values, when it comes to intimate relationships: you take such seriously (therefore are currently devastated) while she takes such lightly, so it seems. So as you struggle with the loss of the object of your attachment, she is busy with a new (and old) objects of attachments to replace you. And probably all of her objects-of-attachment are of a lesser intense attachment.

    She is more diluted that way, superficial. Do you agree?

    anita

    #125243
    Me as I am
    Participant

    Dear @anita

    I do agree with what you’re saying.

    #125245
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shaheed:

    If you got back with her, as a girlfriend, you will be in the danger of her giving you up again, way more easily than you would give up on her. She may give you up because of a physical attraction to another, and/ or because you and her are having a problem. Because her attachment is way more superficial than yours, she will be less invested in a relationship with you, as she has been.

    Better get involved with a woman more invested, with a stronger attachment ability, to match yours. With such a woman you can relax, have time to solve problems, knowing she is invested, that she is not likely to leave you.

    If you agree to this as well, then to deal with your attachment to this woman, as you see her daily, think these things to yourself, repeat the truth in your own mind, re-state to yourself that you have to endure this pain, feel it and let it be, because there is nothing for you to do.

    There is nothing you should be doing because having her back in your life is not for your benefit and is very likely to bring more pain, again and again.

    There is nothing for you to do but to experience the pain. Don’t be afraid of this pain, it will not kill you. So no need to be desperate. You are safe, there is nothing for you to do, and you will feel better soon enough.

    Learn from this and pay attention that the next woman you get involved with forms a deeper attachment than this woman.

    anita

    #125249
    jon kirkham
    Participant

    Anita is very deep and meaningful with her words. We as individuals are all different in many ways. Some big, some small. It takes a great deal of time to work a person out completely. Years even. Because we also change. Like the seasons. Just as we’re learning about another, or ourself, something happens which causes a change.

    Either way your heart is feeling broken. And it will take a while to repair. In the mean time see yourself as being lucky for not having to endure more time causing more pain with this individual. Because she may get worse. But she may also get better and learn how much better a deep hearted person is to have in this world. But you may also meet somebody who is closer to you in that respect. Big heart!

    Also if you had good times with this person then remember those and just smile that they were a part of your life. Because your life is far from over. And we have no idea what is going to happen. So just like Anita say’s; learn from it.

    Personally i was in a long term relationship for 7.5 years. Our next step was marriage and family. But i couldn’t do it. So i ended it. And it was hard. Crushing another person’s heart and living with the consequences of the damage caused. So if you ex doesn’t even factor your side of this in, then it really does mean she certainly wasn’t the 1 for you. If she doesn’t learn from this then you got out early rather than suffering further down the line

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