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    Matt
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    Hello all,

    My girlfriend of a month was caught up in a some pretty heated drama, and she feels horribly about it. Before she dated me she had been fooling around/ had a thing with an old friend of mine. It was immediately regarded as a mistake by her, but she found herself making it again and again (people are lonely creatures). Eventually she realized it had gone on too far when our mutual friend told her he was breaking up with his girlfriend to pursue a relationship with her, but she shot it down. He then became deeply depressed (he was before – he is very mentally unstable and has severe anxiety and depression), became a drug dealer (I think he was planning on becoming one anyway), and then the added stress and paranoia associated with dealing drugs, along with him feeling sad for tanking a very healthy relationship with a girl who loved him very much (she was willing to marry him) for a woman who did not return his feelings, has made him pretty darn low. About as low as I’ve seen in the 5+ years I’ve known him.

    And so my girlfriend feels horribly because she feels partially responsible for his circumstances. As the woman my friend cheated on his girlfriend with (serial cheater and a long history of self sabotage), I think her guilt is understandable. However, I strongly feel that she shouldn’t feel responsible for the actions of an erratic person. His irrationality and shortsightedness is in no way her fault. If he was willing to cheat and throw someone who loved him to the curb, her function as a catalyst should minimize the blame. I feel like my love and adoration for her might be causing me to see her in a better light, but she rejected him numerous times, made it clear she didn’t want a relationship, and then he made moves anyway. He shot himself in the foot – she’s a victim of loneliness in my mind.

    She had been interested in me for quite some time (we both perceived the other as a “dead option” so no moves were made), but we never really had a chance to get to know each other until about two weeks after that event. We immediately hit it off and fell in love shortly after. She said she didn’t normally date guys, but she couldn’t stay away I suppose. She wants to be with me, and I want her around as long as she’s willing – but our mutual friend constantly messages her about how lonely he is, or how he doesn’t really have anyone close now, or how he misses them sleeping together. It’s causing her huge amounts of stress and guilt and I don’t know how to help her. I offer advice and comfort, but I just wish there was something more I could do.

    She’s teased the idea of never talking to him again, but they are good friends and she does like talking to him, but he’s making it hard to be “friends” because he keeps trying to win her back. I’ve known him for years and we were good friends, but I feel angry/ frustrated with him all the time because he wants sympathy because of how sad he is but everything he’s sad about in his life is directly a result of his shortsighted actions. And also he keeps trying to sleep with my girlfriend so that’s kind of fucked up.

    I love and accept everyone with open arms, but sometimes doing the Zen thing is hard (wow who’da thought).

    Sorry for the wall of text, any wisdom is appreciated,
    Matt

    #210963
    pink24
    Participant

    Hi Matt,

    Well I’m not sure why your girlfriend likes talking to someone who is always sad. That within itself just sounds annoying. Like I was literally annoyed and I only read about him. I mean honestly, life is hard for everyone.

    I think the best thing to do is ….nothing.  Like, NOTHING. Meaning, don’t engage her when she talks about him. Let her learn on her own how annoying he is.  (I may sound harsh, but people who vent and complain a lot about their lives really annoy me )   And if she doesn’t, at least she can’t engage you. Misery loves company, and you have to make it clear to her that you are simply not available to discuss him.

    Focus on you guys. Being in love is awesome!!! Please don’t let this other guy taint your experience. Perhaps suggest a therapist? Yea, that might be best.

    Pink

     

     

    #211233
    Michael
    Participant

    Hi Matt –

    I think it’s possible that you are too close to the situation and not looking at it as wholly as you could be. Indulge me for a moment with what I see as the situation; your now girlfriend engaged in an affair with an old friend who was in a relationship because she was lonely and he was not in a great place mentally. The affair progressed to the point where the old friend wanted to change his relationship status to include your girlfriend (while presumably getting rid of the other girl, but who knows if he wanted them both?).

    You spend a lot of time talking about how his mental space affects your girlfriend, but the obvious question to me is: Why did your girlfriend think it’s ok to have an affair with a dude in a relationship because she was lonely?! You may have an answer to this question, or you might not have asked it yet, but in either event I would spend waaaaaay less time focusing on this old friend and more time focusing on the actions of someone who is now included in your life in a very intimate way. I realize love makes us assume the best in people, and it’s very difficult to differentiate between what someone does and how they make us feel. But brother I gotta be honest and say that the mere fact that your now girlfriend was involved in that situation at all is a result of her actions and her reasoning process. She clearly at some point thought what she was doing was fine – and/or justified it in some way, shape or form to herself. She was a willing participant in a lie that (sounds like) destroyed a relationship (either in part or in full) and contributed to bringing two people down low so she could feel better about herself. Now I don’t know this girl, nor do I need to really – this might sound harsh, but this is also a 100% honest, first-impression reaction to your story.

     

    Bottom line – don’t worry about the friend, spend more time talking to your girlfriend about how she conducted herself and how she co-created the situation she now finds herself in.

    My 100% honest advice – dump her, cheaters don’t change in my experience. Life’s too short to deal with someone who cannot control themselves.

     

    All the best,

    Mike

    #211241
    Michelle
    Participant

    This story was a wild ride … I wholeheartedly agree with Mike. Your girlfriend does not have good character and I don’t know why you would invite that into your life. It won’t end well.

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