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  • #448474
    Eva
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    Thank you for all your kind words. I know that I may repeat myself, and it’s getting annoying, but there is something that is constantly making me sick, and those are the intrusive thoughts that I know have no meaning, don’t change anything for me, but keep coming into my mind and stopping me from functioning in daily life.

    Thoughts like:
    1. Where is he right now?
    2. Is he with someone new?
    3. Is he thinking of me?
    4. What if he is so happy that he is single and he is living his life out there?
    5. How will I cope when I see him somewhere?
    6. What if he is back with his ex?
    7. How can he move on so quickly?
    8. What if I don’t find someone else?
    9. What if I always fall into the trap of people like this?

    When these thoughts come up in my mind, my stomach feels awful, I am getting sick, and I cannot even eat, breathe, sleep, drink, or anything.

    Update from what happened after I wrote the first post: We talked and somehow made up…The energy was very calm, and even though we didn’t talk about how to practically solve everything, we somehow continued… Those 2 weeks, he “tried” being a good boyfriends, trying to fix things that had been bothering me, like:
    -asking me how I am
    -What am I doing? How am I doing
    —> things that I think are nothing to TRY to fix, those are something that should be normal and flowing in a relationship. Even though he tried doing these things, he just asked, so they are asked, and I still felt like he didn’t do it because he wanted to.
    Also, invited me to a standup comedy concert and let me invite some of my friends who have never met. They came, but the tension I felt with him:
    – going behind us, like he doesn’t want to be seen with us
    – sitting and constantly looking to see if there is someone we know nearby
    – not being very talkative or trying to get to know them more
    And then… after these days, on Thursday (07th August), we arranged to see each other because that weekend I was going on a trip. He was busy the whole day, and he went to a football training, and he would have come in front of my home at 10:30 PM. It was not necessary, but with everything going on, and knowing that we do not have quality time AT ALL, and I am always the last to see him, even for 30 minutes, I felt frustrated and triggered again. I don’t know why, but when he finished training, he asked me if I should come home now? And I wrote to him anyway. I don’t know why I wrote that, I just felt that way at the time because I felt so neglected, always left at the end, when he was too tired from the day and only had a little time with me. And naturally, he got angry at that, and said I was going home. My way of dealing with these problems is that I write and talk a lot, and I started writing to him that he never has time for me, that he doesn’t know how to set aside time just for me, and he spends time with everyone else all day, and naturally it came to that point, where we talked on the phone and he told me that he couldn’t do it anymore and had no desire to continue this relationship at all. He also told me that for the past 3-4 days he had really tried to fix some of the things I had asked for and that I didn’t know how to wait even 1 week for something to start getting fixed. I have to argue. He said that he would have used his psychic energy for something else. Also, something that really hurt me was the following sentence: I EVEN DID IT, AND I ALLOWED YOU TO CALL YOUR FRIENDS TO CALL US TO THE STAND-UP EVENT, AND YOU’RE ARGUING AGAIN? I don’t understand, what kind of deviation, that should be a normal thing in a 5-year relationship! And in the end he told me that if I had been understanding, patient, there would have been no one like me, I would have been perfect. But I think I’m just patient and understanding. Because someone who isn’t patient won’t put up with this, always on their terms, views, rules, and if I hadn’t been understanding, I wouldn’t have WAITED 5 years for him to be ready! This whole argument made me feel guilty that I had ruined it again and that maybe if I hadn’t done this on Friday, we wouldn’t have ended and he would have tried to fix the relationship. Since then, he hasn’t asked me out at all, so it’s a complete end.

    #448476
    Eva
    Participant

    This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.

    Now I am having crisis to reach out, to text him something, and I can’t hold it. I am such a chaos.

    #448490
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Eva:

    I wonder — have you sought professional help regarding your intrusive thoughts? I suffered from OCD for decades before receiving medical support (SSRI treatment), which brought me much relief from obsessive and intrusive thinking.

    What you expressed here is not “annoying repetition” — it’s trauma echoing through your nervous system.

    In this post, you described a partner who offered minimal emotional presence (“just asking so it’s asked”), gave crumbs of affection then withdrew, keeping you emotionally hooked. He avoided being seen with you socially, consistently prioritized others over you, and framed basic relational gestures as burdens or favors (“I even let you invite your friends…”).

    This is not mutual care — it’s conditional engagement, where you were made to feel like you were asking too much for wanting basic emotional connection. Your valid needs were framed as unreasonable, making you feel guilty for expressing them.

    His language flipped the script: he claimed you weren’t patient — despite you waiting five years for emotional availability. He implied you ruined the relationship by expressing frustration, ignoring the chronic neglect that led to it. He weaponized your emotional needs as unreasonable demands. This is emotional reversal: making you feel guilty for reacting to mistreatment.

    As a result, you ended up blaming yourself: “Maybe if I hadn’t done this…”, “I ruined it again…”, “I’m such a chaos…” This is heartbreaking. You’ve absorbed the emotional labor, the responsibility, and the shame — internalizing the failure of the relationship as your fault. But in truth, you’ve been starved of reciprocity and respect.

    Your pain is real, Eva. Your needs were not excessive. You are not “chaos.” You are someone who tried to love and be loved in a space that didn’t honor you.

    With care and solidarity, Anita

    #448501
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Sorry, my advice is not very good. But attachment to love takes time and letting go of that love takes time.
    As it was easy to spend time together. It will be even harder to practice to let go.

    The first arrow in life is the one which causes us pain. The second arrow is the one which causes suffering. The first is unavoidable. Life will have its pain. The second is the wrapping of our minds on the first arrow. Thinking about the first arrow. Consumed about it. That is the suffering. Like a tooth ache will happen. There is pain. But, when the mind gets wrapped up in it and becomes consumed in the tooth pain then there is suffering.

    The path to end suffering is to spend time not thinking about the other person. The more time you do not spend thinking about the other person then the more you will heal. If you continue to wrap yourself in those thoughts about the other person then the more you will suffer. It takes practice to do other things and to keep the mind on the present. Little by little. More and more time will go by and you will spend less and less time on thoughts about the other person. You will heal.

    #448590
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Eva,

    I’m sorry you’re hurting and cannot stop thinking about him, even if rationally you know he wasn’t good for you.

    He may have promised to change how he’s treating you, but those were just some cosmetic changes. There was no deeper awareness of why he should behave differently in a relationship, or that he is wrong in any way.

    The way he phrased it “I allowed you to invite your friends” says a lot about his mindset: as if he is doing you a big favor and a big concession by treating you as an equal partner, rather than his subordinate, or even his property, or something to that effect.

    His attitude and his mindset are very worrying, to be honest, and it’s not something he can change at will. Nor does he want to change it, since he believes there’s nothing wrong with him. So rest assured that he would always fall back on treating you like this – because that’s his “modus operandi”. That’s who he is.

    He told you something very deceptive:

    And in the end he told me that if I had been understanding, patient, there would have been no one like me, I would have been perfect.

    Yeah right. Then why has he been hiding you from the world for 5 years?

    This either shows his hypocrisy, or that he sincerely believes that a “perfect” partner is someone who is obedient and fulfills his wishes, while he can treat her like a doormat. Again, a very worrying (and toxic) mindset.

    But I understand that even though you’re rationally aware of all of this, emotionally it’s still very hard for you to let him go. When we can’t let go emotionally, even though we know it rationally, it’s usually something to do with our inner child.

    The inner child is a part of us that carries our longing to be loved, appreciated, validated, seen as special,etc. We should ideally get all those needs met in our childhood, by our parents or caretakers.

    But when this doesn’t happen, those unmet needs are still in us, and they cause us deep longing for those same things (love, appreciation, validation) – but not from our parents, but our romantic partner(s).

    Often we get blinded by those longings, and even if we rationally know that the person isn’t good for us, our irrational part (our inner child) cannot let go. This could explain why you’re so attached to him, even if you know he’s not good for you.

    This is just a suggestion, of course. It doesn’t mean it’s true for you. But if it rings true, we can talk about it more, if you’re interested.

    #448629
    Eva
    Participant

    This makes a lot of sense! Do you have any practical advices how to move forward and work on this?

    #448686
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Eva,

    I’m glad you find the concept of the inner child helpful. It certainly helped me achieve some significant healing, after some other methods haven’t succeeded.

    The idea is that we as children have basic needs, both physical and emotional, and if those needs weren’t properly met by our parents or caretakers, we will have various consequences as adults. We might feel anxious, unworthy of love, believing we don’t deserve happiness. We might get involved in toxic relationships, looking for love from people unable to give it, etc.

    Bottom line: we’ll have an unhealthy relationship with ourselves, believing that we’re not good enough. Our inner child will believe that, because that’s the message we’ve received while growing up. We’ll have the inner critical voice (so-called inner critic) constantly telling us that we’re bad and deficient, and our self-criticism will be really high.

    To counter that, we need to go through a process called re-parenting, where we develop a positive relationship with ourselves and our inner child. Instead of bombarding ourselves with criticism and self-hatred, we need to develop a positive, supportive, compassionate inner voice, which would be equivalent to the voice of a good parent.

    Instead of blaming ourselves all the time for our perceived failures, we have much more understanding and empathy for ourselves, even when we make mistakes. We tell ourselves that we’re good enough, that we’re lovable, that we’re worthy. Everything that a loving, supportive parent would say.

    This process is described in more detail in a video titled “Reparenting” on Barbara Heffernan’s youtube channel (she is a psychotherapist and a coach). She is talking about our basic emotional needs and how to figure out if those needs were met or not, and what do if they were not.

    You might want to take a look. I’d be happy to talk in more detail, if this feels like something you resonate with.

    Lots of love <3

    #448687
    Tee
    Participant

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    #449037
    Eva
    Participant

    I have to type here because I have the urge to text him. After all, he I need to express my feelings here because I’m feeling the urge to text him. He has been ignoring me for 48 hours. Previously, he would send me messages—usually something about himself, a picture, or a reel—something unimportant and cold. He never communicated deeply or asked about me. I tried to address his coldness and distance, but his response was always the same: “I’ve been very busy these past weeks. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.”

    We broke up mainly because of this, yet he still messages me occasionally. Now, he has been absent for two days, and my anxiety is through the roof, making me want to reach out to him.has been ignoring me for 48 hours. He used to text me a message or tho, generally something about him, or a picture, or a reel, something unimportant and cold, and never communicated deeply or asked something about me. Tried communicating why he is so cold and distant and changed so much towards me, and always got the same frustrated answer: I am very busy these past weeks, I do not know how you do not understand that. We broke up mainly because of that and you are still doing that even if we are not together now. But keeps leaving me a message or two from time to time. Now he is absent 2 days and my anxiety is again through the roof wanting to message him.

    Again, the same old intrusive thoughts….And I really do not know how will I let go. I am having these fears that I will never find my person or partner that will make me happy. I only know this toxic love and nothing more… I have been going to 2 therapists: one is Gestalt type and one is CBT. I have been going to Gestalt for years now, but I can’t seem to release my panic. I have all these fears, of him moving on, of me being alone, not finding the right partner, being childless, not married…. I am panicking so hard right now and fighting the urge to text him.

    #449038
    anita
    Participant

    Eva, I just read that are, or were panicking 10 minutes ago. I will reply further next, but for now- please take a cold or hot shower, or go for a walk outside.. something to redirect your attention..?

    Anita

    #449047
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Eva:

    I hope you’re feeling a bit steadier as you are reading this. I know these waves can be brutal, especially when you gave so much of yourself and still feel unseen.

    I read your recent post and revisited your earlier ones, and what I see isn’t irrationality—it’s a nervous system in distress, shaped by an anxious attachment style and intensified by a painful relational pattern. What you’re experiencing isn’t weakness. It’s a response to:

    * Intermittent Reinforcement: He offers crumbs of attention unpredictably, which keeps you emotionally tied to him.

    * Emotional Withholding: His coldness and refusal to engage leave you chasing connection to soothe abandonment anxiety.

    * Gaslighting and Reversal: Your valid needs are reframed as irrational, eroding your self-trust and amplifying self-blame.

    This creates a cycle that’s not your fault—but it is exhausting: Longing → Protest → Rejection → Guilt → Longing again

    You long for closeness, safety, and to feel important. (“Why doesn’t he ask how I am?”, “Why am I always last?”)->

    You protest when the longing becomes unbearable—reaching out, asking for time, attention, or accountability. (“You never make time for me.”, “I feel invisible.”)->

    Instead of meeting your protest with empathy, he rejects you—calling you dramatic, paranoid, or exhausting. (“You’re always fighting.”, “I can’t do this anymore.”)->

    After the rejection, you spiral into guilt—wondering if you ruined everything by speaking up. (“Maybe I shouldn’t have said anything.”, “I ruined it again.”)->

    That guilt reactivates the longing. You crave resolution, want to fix it, feel the urge to reach out—even knowing it may hurt again. (“Maybe he’ll understand this time.”, “I just need to say one more thing.”)

    And so the cycle begins again.

    The way out isn’t to silence your protest—it’s to redirect it inward. Instead of pleading with him, speak up for yourself: “I deserve to be loved without begging.” “I will not explain my pain to someone who refuses to hear it.”

    This is where healing begins—not by getting him to change, but by refusing to collapse into guilt for needing love.

    If you’re ready, consider giving yourself the gift of silence, a No Contact with him—not as punishment, but as protection. Every message reopens the wound. You deserve peace. You deserve to be chosen by you.

    Here’s a mantra you can use: “I do not reach out to be chosen. I choose myself by staying silent.”

    And when the urge to text him rises, write it—but don’t send it. Let it be a letter to yourself. A ritual of release. A reminder that your voice is sacred, even when it’s trembling.

    You are not too much. You are not the problem. You are someone who asked to be seen—and that is never a crime.

    With care, Anita

    #449150
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Eva,

    sorry, I’ve only just seen your latest post. I’m really sorry you’re going through this, Eva. But he is very cruel and as Anita said, is giving you breadcrumbs of attention, to keep you hooked. And it’s not even real attention, because he never inquires about you but only shares about himself:

    He has been ignoring me for 48 hours. Previously, he would send me messages—usually something about himself, a picture, or a reel—something unimportant and cold. He never communicated deeply or asked about me. I tried to address his coldness and distance, but his response was always the same: “I’ve been very busy these past weeks. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.”

    He is not really interested in you, but is interested in keeping you hooked. This gives him narcissistic supply, because you’re giving him your intention. When you want more, i.e. him to show real interest in you – he swiftly rejects it and blames you for being too demanding or unreasonable. This too – criticizing you and putting you down – gives him narcissistic supply as well. It enables him to feel superior to you, and he likes it.

    Dear Eva, I’m afraid he is behaving like a predator: giving you breadcrumbs, with which he tortures you, without having any interest in a real, mutually respectful relationship with you. He’s like an energy vampire, I’m afraid.

    I think it would help a lot if you would block him, because every new message is a new opportunity to torture you and give you false hope. I know it’s hard for you to block him, because you’re still hoping for something. But trust me, the only thing you’ll get from him is more disappointment and heartache. He isn’t able to give you anything good.

    I only know this toxic love and nothing more… I have been going to 2 therapists: one is Gestalt type and one is CBT. I have been going to Gestalt for years now, but I can’t seem to release my panic.

    Dear Eva, I’m very sorry you only know toxic love. It probably started in your childhood, when the kind of love you’ve received from your parents or caretakers wasn’t really nurturing… Would you like to talk about it some more? I’m sorry therapy hasn’t helped so far…

    #449151
    Tee
    Participant

    * correction: because you’re giving him your attention

    #449284
    Eva
    Participant

    I can definitely say that even though my parents are still together, we had some rough moments 7-8 years ago. They always wanted what was best for us, and we always had everything, because thankfully, we have money, enough to have everything but not enough to be spoiled that much. We were never greedy or spoiled like rich kids. We never wore or have the need to wear brands or have something like that. But my relationship with my father was always difficult. He is a man that wants everything under his control, if I do/act/say something opposite of his opinion, there was always that dissmisive, angry approach and being mad for days not talking to anyone at home. We always had to get good grades, there was scolding, yelling if they were weaker than a 4. With us, the maximum best grade is a 5. We were also punished very often, if we did something that was not a rule. He knew how to hit us, yell, and I was not allowed to bite, I had a curfew until 12 o’clock until I was 18. He was very strict with us, and it’s okay to some extent because I grew up to be what I am today, with very good habits, I’m not spoiled and I’m not a lazy person. I always tried hard, I studied, I got a lot of awards and successes. But now all of that is taking a bit of a toll because my perfectionist in me is starting to get disappointed with the life I have right now. I feel like I haven’t achieved anything and like I’m nowhere right now, and I’m 27 years old. Now my father is starting to nag about getting married, grandchildren, and the like… I feel that pressure again, according to his expectations. The relationship he has as a husband with my mother was also not the best. He doesn’t accept criticism, he gets angry if he is criticized or given advice, he goes to work and sits there for days angry, he doesn’t talk to anyone. We also had a moment 10 years ago, very dramatic, where they fought a lot with shouting, pushing, that he was going to leave, even that he was going to kill himself and I don’t know what. From that moment on, I think my attitude towards him changed a lot and I can’t stand him. Whenever he tries to hug me, and he knows how to drool when he’s in the mood, it’s uncomfortable for me and I just want to get away. I run away from his closeness now, because I find him very repulsive. No matter how hard I try, I can’t fix it. Sometimes it’s hard for me, that I’m like that, but it comes to me unconsciously and I don’t even know how to fix it. My mother is the person I can trust the most, but she also always ran after my father, she heard, and she always had a very strange approach with us, we couldn’t be completely open, she never talked to us about sex, illnesses, boyfriends, relationships, as if it were taboo and shameful. She always has a certain amount of distrust towards us even though we never did anything stupid with my sister. I can say that I have never had such a close, beautiful relationship with my parents as some have. I can’t sit down and talk to them for even 15 minutes, everything they do annoys me, the sounds they make, the way they communicate. And I run away, I just sit in my room.

    I’m sorry it’s like this, but I don’t know how I can fix it… Maybe I’m one of those people who functions better if they’re away from their homes… But at the moment I live with them, and I don’t know what step to take to get my life going. I feel very stuck at the moment, everything is gray and confusing, I have no idea what step can move me forward.

    #449285
    Eva
    Participant

    I think I have these attachment issues and abandonment issues from him… Leaving for days or not speaking when he is angry or has a fight with us. I can still feel that pain; it’s so frustrating to me right now because he still does it once a month, and now I just can’t handle it. It’s childish and so immature. Me and my sister definitely see the patterns in him, but my sister had a very different approach to relationships, she is such a strong woman, and his bf is just like a puppy, always running for her. She has her opinions, and doesn’t care for anything else.

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