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  • #461297
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    Zen stories are great for the mind to grasp the principles of Buddhism.
    I hope you read more Zen stories.

    #461296
    Thomas168
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    Hello Sleipnir,

    You are wise to seek freedom from your past. Holding onto the past would only cause you more pain and suffering.
    Forgiving the unforgiveable is really the only way to find the freedom you seek.
    How do we begin? First, we try not to think of the past. Not to bring those memories up.
    Cause it is like holding onto a rock. The harder you hold on then the more it begins to hurt.
    When you finally let go, relief.

    Much like meditation. We are trying to separate ourselves from the thoughts that arise.
    We aren’t trying to stop the mind or thoughts. We are really trying to let go of the thoughts.
    Not to let them control ourselves. If we spend time in self observation then we can see how the mind works.
    If someone says something to anger us then our minds will jump to justify the anger. The thoughts prop up the emotions.
    So, we are letting go of the thoughts so they do not have a hold upon us.

    There are many stories or being hurt and seeking revenge. Revenge brings no happiness.
    Cause revenge doesn’t erase the hurt. No one can remove the hurt you feel.
    Only you can control whether that hurt makes you stronger or get a stronger hold on you.

    Buddha spoke of the second arrow. When someone is hit with an arrow, their minds continue to hold onto it.
    Wondering where it came from. Who did it. Never letting it go. So, that is suffering.
    Simple concept but so hard to accomplish.

    I hope you seek out a teacher and learn more Buddhism to help you release those thoughts and memories.
    Live a happy life. Cause the best revenge is living a good life.

    Tommy

    #461248
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    When anyone holds onto an event or social interaction then it begins to fester.
    The longer one holds onto it then the bigger it becomes.
    Does holding onto the hurt make one a better person? Do it prove one is right?
    Does this bring one closer or does it break relationships?

    So, will the apologies help when you hang onto the incursion?
    I have offended many here and have made my apologies.
    Truth is … They haven’t brought any peace.
    Those offended seem to hold onto the offense like it was a badge of honor
    Not, no, never daring to let it go.
    And so the distance becomes wider.

    When does one learn the lessons of life and bring peace into their lives?
    When will they begin to heal?
    Will it be long after they have lost the ability to reach out to the other one?

    I have long ago learnt that one can not fight stupid.
    One can not control others only what oneself decides to do.
    So, in my heart, I let go of pain, of the events in life that hold me back from freedom
    And wish others a happiness only found in letting go
    Please live long and prosper.

    #461242
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    I was recently reminded of how life is, …
    Was asked to pick up a pebble and to hold onto it. Like an event or something that happens to our lives.
    Then asked to hold onto the pebble tighter. And soon there was pain.
    So, the pain wasn’t from the pebble but from how we hold onto the pebble.
    And so in life when things happen, we hold onto the pebble, the event.
    The suffering comes from how we choose to hold onto it.
    When I finally let go of the pebble, relief from the pain.

    So, I don’t know what everyone has gone thru. But, I do hope you can find a way to let it go
    And free yourselves from suffering from it. Maybe even to overcome the pebble.
    Whatever we did at the time was something that we did cause it was what we knew was best at the time.
    Chasing and regret of past events are using today’s eyes to judge the past.
    It does us no good to hang onto it.

    It just maybe a good time to let go and say good bye to the past.

    #461108
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    Hey Peter,

    Sorry, I am still confused. But after reading your response in the other thread, it is starting to make some sense. I am just thick headed. And slow on the up take. I only made it thru two years of college to get my degree. Lot of good that did. Did many things. Jack of all trades and master of none. Seems my interest in Buddhism and mediation falls into the same hold. Know enough to get along but not enough to become a master. Went from fixing copiers to fixing bowling pin resetting machines to maintenance (janitorial) to hobby of fixing people’s electronics (radio, TV, VCR, computers). Or anything else that paid money. I even imported stuff from China to resell. Been arrested and spent a week in jail. Met lots of interesting people. Really has been quite a journey. Maybe like my own tower of Babel??

    Tommy

    #461107
    Thomas168
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    Hello Alessa,

    Nice to hear from you. Yeah, my daughter’s spine is still curved about 40 degrees which is very bad. It is very noticeable when she bends over or sits crouched over. I bought a gravity bench so she could have time stretching her back a bit but she refuses to use it. The brace she didn’t want to wear to school as it would prohibit her for her regular routines. Doctor kept saying she needs more time in the brace. Personally I don’t believe it helped. It made breathing harder for her and the discomfort mad sleeping harder. It was lose lose. So, when her bones finally set, around age 17, she didn’t need the brace anymore. Idiopathic, they called it. Meaning there is no known reason. Still hurt my heart to see this. I try to focus on the positive with her. This way to keep her focus on the good things in life. Oh, loved the story. And I hope the kitty tree is a hit.

    Hello Peter,

    Just mentioned you and wondered how you have been. That was very creative continuing the story. Shows how we see the world is colored by our thoughts. Quite enjoyed your story. Thanks. Being able to laugh at one’s own foolishness is a great attribute. If I was able to do that then I would be laughing all the time. I am such a fool.

    Tommy

    #461048
    Thomas168
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    Thanks for the well wishes.
    The kidney stones, I believe they have passed since I am not having any pain now. I have been slacking off and not doing my meditation. Well maybe in a few days I will get back to a routine. Looking for something, a spark or something of interest. Anything to get me back on the cushion. Don’t know.

    #461047
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    Hello Alessa,

    Thanks for the post. Seems like Anita is avoiding me and haven’t heard from peter in a while. All is quiet on the forum???

    Anyway, it is important to get the correct assessment. That will help in planning anything he might need in the future. It hurts as a parent to find out my child wasn’t as bright as … And would have issues. Then compounded when we learn she has scoliosis. Got to keep an eye out for physical changes. Since she is a girl I .. just didn’t want to .. be too close to her physically. So, it wasn’t until she had a physical due to school rules that we found out her spine was curved. Body braces until she got older and her bones set in place. Wasn’t an easy time for her. This could have been spotted by watching her spine as she bends over forward to touch her toes. We can see it curve. It really makes me feel like a failure. Then she got into college and those math courses simply were about stuff I never had. Yeah, Felt really dumb. But thanks to YouTube.com, I learned and helped to explain a little bit to my daughter.

    Oh, yeah, the kidney stones, when I didn’t drink a lot of water, the kidney stone seems to stop moving and so no pain. But, when I did drink lots of water, it moved and there was so much pain. But, had to drink more water to get it out. The pain is enough to have me bent over and immobile. This all started with a dull ache where the kidneys are at. Went to the hospital ER. Sat there from 9 am to about two pm before the in take nurse got to me. Then another two more hours before a doctor stopped by. Got a CT scan with an injection to provide contrast. Told it was a kidney stone. About 3 to 5 mm. Told to take Tylenol and drink lots of water. Finally got home by 7pm. It has been a few days and I think it has passed. Not sure when. The hospital get me a net to pee thru to catch the stone but I don’t carry it when I go out. Wife wants me to do an ultrasound to make sure it is gone.

    #460923
    Thomas168
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    The forum isn’t the same when Anita is quiet. Please take care of yourself.

    #460922
    Thomas168
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    I am having pain from kidney stones. I have had three before. Each time was told to drink more water to help flush out the stone. The pain really does deter practice. But, it really is what the heart that decides what one does next.

    Experience the truth about ourselves is Kensho or Satori. It is receiving the transmission. It is learning the truth of ourselves, enlightenment. It is the path to end suffering by learning the truth of life. Some will say that this life is an illusion. That has to come from a place where one sees the difference between what is real and what is subjective.

    Liked, “Just trying your best to deal with what is in the best way you can at the time. 🩵”
    Kids grow and we adapt to their growth. Stuff happens and we just try to do our best with what we got.
    I feel terrible that I can’t do more to help my child. But, just live life as best we can.

    #460853
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    Hello Alessa,

    I think you are trying to say that understanding helps to bring the body back to normal function using medication. But, it really isn’t about the science. I know we are of the body. Our consciousness is tied to the body. Being sick pulls the mind down. Being healthy lets us do other things. I think Buddhism is more about finding the experience of the truth about ourselves. Without the experience, there is a small understanding of ourselves. With that experience, our understanding expands greatly. And yet, the external world stays pretty much the same.

    Medications, yes, I do take quite a few now. But, there doesn’t seem to be any unwanted side effects. So much is tied to our bodies. Guest that is why they call it a spiritual journey??

    Hello Roberta,

    Thanks for the Admonishment. I completely understand the need for actual practice in one’s life. Talk is just the mind going over and over the same steps. It doesn’t bring one further along the path. But, being human, we all do need to have the mind settled with understanding to move forward. Well, at least, that is my belief. So, yes, more practice.

    Oh, the idea that there are phases or that one is moving in steps toward enlightenment, it is all ghosts or phantoms. It is all a trick of the mind. One is either on this side of the experience or on the other side. One can’t polish a roof tile into a mirror. But the work must be done to enter the stream.

    This conversation has been a great help to me. Thank you all.

    #460830
    Thomas168
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    Hey Roberta,

    Thanks for your posts. It really is a tough thing to be able to separate pain from mental suffering. When sick and coughing, it feels like suffering. The hurt rings thru the body. Only sometimes can I feel that separation from the body to what I believe feels like me. I have heard of tasks given to novices to go into the cold and sit in meditation. They produce heat and do not feel the cold. I don’t know if this is some sort of power or prajna. Or maybe some sort of mental training. But, truth is that one may understand there is a difference in feeling pain and the mental suffering. But, the ability to actually control the difference in oneself?? I do not know.

    Is it as simple as knowing there is pain and not to let the mind ruminate the pain and turn it into suffering? Or is there something more to separating the pain and the truth of one’s nature? Is it just the thoughts or is there something more? IDK.

    There are stories of amazing things which masters have exhibited. I do not know if they are true. But, it is clear that I wish to learn more. And I am willing to listen to anyone who has the truth behind their words. I have met a few people who definitely showed their enlightened nature. You know from their manner and from their words. It just reaches inside and you know. It can’t be faked. Some know things and spout it out from simple learning. But, the truth doesn’t come from that place. So you know.

    I dream too much. And am very tired now. Sorry for my rambling. Yes, I know I am rambling and yet I continue. So why hit submit? Because the three truths can not remain hidden. The sun, the moon and one’s nature. I thank all who have chosen to reply to this thread.

    #460791
    Thomas168
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    Hello Roberta,

    It seems like an easy thing to do. To separate the pain from the suffering. But, it is not. When I feel sick, it feels like I am suffering although it is only being sick. When pain attacks, it is hard to say this is only pain. Maybe many more years of meditation might help to separate the two or to go thru the pain and drop the suffering.

    Lately, I have come to realize how much I am my body. Everything this life offers comes thru this existence thru my body. Pain and pleasure. Enjoyment of tasting foods. Spent many hours pondering what the heck I really am. So, when this body dies, so will this ego. This thought that I am and I exist. Memories will be lost. Identity will disappear. I still don’t know what I am besides this body.

    Then, I question whether experiencing enlightenment will really reveal the truth and show that one is more than this body? We live such a short life. My sister passed away in her early forties from Cancer. I do fear Cancer. Pain. The doctors had her on morphine in the late stages. It isn’t that I don’t want to see the broader aspects. Rather painful experiences pull me back.

    Oh, I still wish to believe in Buddhism. And try to spend time just sitting. Hoping for the path to liberation starts to light up the way.

    Tommy

    #460775
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    Roberta,

    Got to say that your post has got me thinking. The orange seed is the cause. The condition is the soil, water and warmth. The effect is the sprouting of the seed. The consequence is the fruit from the tree. The cycle completes when the fruit produces the seed. So, then how does this relate to the Four Noble Truths? How can I use this information to understand the path to liberation from suffering? I am remembering many summer nights feeling the cool breeze on my face. Time spent sitting in quiet. Then when not quiet, pondering how not to suffer old age and pain. The calm and the peace of the moment was like the surface of the lake. The suffering of pain was the waves rippling out from the disturbance. I don’t have answers. Just more questions.

    Well, maybe I spend too much time in thoughts.

    #460757
    Thomas168
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    Hello Alessa,

    Was the lost post more thoughtful or considerate? If yes then I take it with both hands and gratitude. If not then your second post was full of kindness and I am thankful for that.

    My friend was patient and wise. Me? Not so much. I tend to be the bull in the China shop. For me, I would have said that she needed to talk with her husband and find out what is wrong. Putting the blame for her distress squarely on his shoulders for drinking. But, confrontation doesn’t necessarily get the result one wants.

    Hi Roberta,

    Thanks for the reply. Yes, the orange seed will not grow into an apple tree. And some seeds will not grow because the conditions are not right for them to grow. I always thought of that as Karma. When one spends one’s life fighting all the time, the energy is dark and that is what one attracts. Some people think of Karma as instant justice. But as far as I know there is no agency to produce this type of justice. i could be wrong?? Honey versus Vinegar? I think each has its uses. One can clean a teapot full of mineral settlements with vinegar better than with honey. But, honey goes better with the cup of tea.

    I truly enjoy the responses. They are enlightening. Hopefull they will someday help me make a few steps forward. Thanks.

    Tommy

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