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  • #70796
    Anonymous
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    After spending about the past 7 months searching for a relationship, I decided to forego that for now, and work on myself. The problem is that I don’t know where to start, and I don’t know what I am about anymore. I know the simple things I want to do. Eating better, exercising, meditating, learning and reading more, but I wonder about what my purpose is.

    When I was younger, it was about being married, building a life and family, working, and enjoying the fruits of our labor. When my marriage fell apart, it became about making sure that my kids had a parent that was there for them, and that they could count on. Also, it was about self preservation and learning how to cope with everything on my own. That whole period was a huge emotional roller coaster. After I finally started to pull things together a bit, I felt I was ready to start dating and find a relationship with someone again.
    There was some success but not long lasting. After trying for months after my initial success, I decided to stop for a while and work on myself.

    I have been looking out for other people for so long, I don’t know what I want anymore. I don’t want a lot of the things I wanted when I was younger. Some of the things I had changed without giving me a choice of changing them or not. That’s life though. I know that but I have to figure what I want the rest of my life to be about.

    I have a course called The Power of Visualization by Dr. Lee Pulos, that I am going to start using. It’s obviously about learning about visualization with several different exercises, and it’s about setting goals. I’m hoping that this will help me get a clearer picture of who I want to be.
    Does anyone have any other suggestions for material that inspires or motivates? There is so much personal development material out there that you don’t know where to start. A lot of it is the same ideas and concepts with different authors.

    One more thing I want to add. It was difficult shifting gears to something different. Even though things weren’t going well on the dating front, I still went on the dating site everyday, hoping there would be a chance something would change It just became a habit. I’ve cancelled my subscription and haven’t been on it since. I’ve been alone so long, I didn’t want to give up. Hopefully, this time will give me a chance to see what I want from my life.

    #70801
    Chiwonk
    Participant

    I am on the same general path as this right now. I’ve had two main sites that helped me get to know me. The first is Penn State’s Authentic Happiness department. https://www.authentichappiness.sas.upenn.edu. Do every single questionnaire they have there. And search the internet for other scientific ones like the Keirsey Institute that is a better view into the Myers Briggs world (IMHO) http://keirsey.com/.

    The second site I’m almost a little embarrassed to admit is pinterest. I used it a bit like a visual journal. **Anything** that appealed to me on the internet was fair game. I just looked, I have over 11,000 pins. Each one of those pins is a tiny piece of information about me. Altogether they are a rather complete and complex picture of who I am that I don’t think I could have gotten a different way.

    If I were you, I would stay away from goal setting or visualizations for now. You have a goal and it isn’t easy to discover who you really are so you do not need any other goals adding mental clutter. Also, IMHO, visualizations are you imposing an order on your psyche and instead it sounds to me you want your psyche free to bubble information back to you. It truly doesn’t matter who you are, it only matters that you are not sure about it.

    #70892
    Maggie Black
    Participant

    Chiwonk,
    I went to the site you suggested and took the happiness test. When I got my results, it only said how I compared to others. It actually said that they did not know how these questions related to anyone’s happiness! I thought that was strange.
    You said the site helped you so maybe I am missing something. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
    I am sort of in the same space as you two and after retiring and realizing I was not happy in my marriage I know I need to find out what I am interest in doing and pursuing.
    I want to feel I have a purpose other than keeping my house clean.
    I also do lots of things for my mom who is in her eighties and enjoy helping her out.
    I know I want to keep in shape and eat right.
    Other than that… not so sure.

    #70911
    Yue
    Participant

    Here is a quote from Paulo Coelho that seems appropriate for this topic:

    Ester asked why people are sad.

    “That’s simple,” says the old man. “They are the prisoners of their personal history. Everyone believes that the main aim in life is to follow a plan. They never ask if that plan is theirs or if it was created by another person. They accumulate experiences, memories, things, other people’s ideas, and it is more than they can possibly cope with. And that is why they forget their dreams.”
    ― Paulo Coelho, The Zahir

    I agree with Chiwonk in that self discovery is a significant call in itself. At the moment, you have a unique opportunity to experience the world anew and instead of approaching something with set goals in mind, approach it with curiosity and a sense of adventure. Sometimes when we have set goals in mind, it limits our perspective and put undue pressure in the activities we engage in. When we approach something with curiosity and without judgement, we open our hearts to all kinds of possibilities.

    Consider this: if you don’t have to worry about money, time, etc what would you do? Have a look around to see what activities are available that’s consistent to that idea and jump into it. If the activity is as fun as you imagined it to be, great. If not, it only means that you are one step closer to discovering what you are passionate about. Like any scientific experiments, it’s simply a process of elimination and if you see it as a grand adventure, you will have fun doing it as well.

    #70934
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Yue,

    I thought that having some goals in your life gave you some purpose. I didn’t set enough goals when I was younger, so now it seems like I am struggling through life because of it. I like your question about what you would do if money, time, etc. were an issue. I have heard that question before when I spent more time going through personal development books. It is a good question to help you find your purpose in life. What is difficult for me is that money is an issue, time is an issue. I have two sons that need at least one parent that they can count on.

    I do need to set some goals because where I am in my life right now is not good. I need to work towards a better place in different areas of my life. Won’t setting some goals and visualizing a brighter future help put me a better path? Money can’t buy happiness, but having a little more of it and not stressing about getting bills paid, will help you feel a little more at ease.

    I know I need to reach out and experience my things in life.

    #70935
    Jeff
    Participant

    I have found myself in a similar position. I have always been looking for something but I don’t know what. I went through the expected motions and always did what was expected of me, always thinking that I will find “IT” along the way. This has lead me down so many different paths that I no longer knew where or who I was and I definitely didn’t find “IT”. Recently I stumbled across a posting, that at least for me, turned on the inner light bulb. It did not give me advise on what to do but it did provide direction on what to look for. I no longer look for a specific path or live in blind absolutes of I need to do ‘X’ but rather I try to understand the reason for what I am doing (or did) and make the decision if I am doing it for the right reason. I am learning that a lot of things are done out of selfishness or false expectation of reciprocation. Not what I thought or wanted to learn about myself but sometimes the truth is not pretty. In a very short time I already feel better and while I do not have a specific destination, at least I feel like I am moving forward in a positive direction. I am rediscovering the journey to Ithica.

    Goals are important but I don’t see them as THE purpose. Maybe understanding why you want to achieve those goals is a better purpose.

    #70938
    Chiwonk
    Participant

    I want to be clear that I’m not saying don’t have any goals, I’m saying you already have one. Rediscover yourself. http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newHTE_87.htm is a pretty good page about how to write goals. I think if you sit down and really think about things you can actually do and succeed at to accomplish that ONE goal you will amazed at how much work it will take. When I lost myself I probably spent five years with rediscovery as my only goal.

    My goal the first year was that *everyday* I would write at least 500 words in a journal. I probably got it done over half the time and it was so hard that I still counted it a success. I had calendar reminders and automatic email reminders. My Mom and Sister reminded me when they saw their calendar reminders that I sent them. I had my computer open up my journal several times a day so that I wouldn’t forget it. I must have done about 20 different things to change my environment and it was still a huge struggle. Even though I grew to love doing it, it was very rewarding and I did learn tons about myself and it was awesome to vent to myself, getting it done was hard. There was no room for any other goals. Besides, I didn’t know myself well enough to write any other goals back then.

    Ah the exact test that I was thinking of before is the VIA Signature Strengths Survey. That is where a lot of psychiatrists start. I think because it is much more fun to think about and work on your strengths and until you have a good handle on them it probably isn’t worth the damage to worry about your weaknesses. Although to be honest, it gives you an ordered list, it isn’t hard to figure out your weaknesses.

    #70980
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi chiwonk,

    I guess if l thought of it that way, maybe things wouldn’t seem overwhelming. I was thinking about what you said,and I could be wrong, but hear me out. If I made ‘rediscover myself’ my main goal, there would have to be a series of things I have to do to accomplish that. I’m thinking that I would have to encompass other smaller goals to get to that point. Wouldn’t I?

    I want to get myself to a better place in many areas of my life. I mentioned money before because that’s something as a single parent I need more of,and more control over to get by. I’m in struggle mode financially,and it is tough to focus on much else. That is something that I must incorporate into my goal because nothing seems to get easier there.
    Just the other day , I was so lucky to receive a large call from the people who do my taxes. According to a ” keystroke error ” I was overpaid $1400 on my tax return last year. I was counting on the full amount but I’ll have to make do with what I get this year.

    I can’t go through another year like last year. I have to set some goals and try to move in a better direction.

    #70984
    Andy
    Participant

    Hi Steve

    This is my first post on here. I’ve been searching for some advice on how to recover from a break-up and came across this site. I’ve read quite a few of your posts today and although our situations differ, our goal (I think) is similar. So a little background which I appreciate is off-topic but I will get back to that. I broke-up with my girlfriend last weekend after a 6 year relationship. We split up mainly because of the pressures of having a long distance relationship. There is more to it than that but this is about rediscovering yourself so I won’t go into details here. I think it is important to say that this is the second time we have split up. That was about a year ago and then we got back together, but it didn’t work out and here I am again.

    I thought it was important to mention that because a year ago I was in a position where I needed to rediscover myself. I never actually got there because when we got back together again I forgot all about doing that and concentrated on the relationship again. Now I find myself in the same situation and there will be no going back this time. I now need to concentrate on rediscovering myself and most importantly being happy with myself. Before I met my ex (online by the way) I was in a really good place emotionally and loved my life. I was happily single and in a great frame of mind. Although I didn’t realize it at the time it gave me a huge amount of confidence and that made meeting new people easier. Simply because of my positive state of mind.

    My main goal now is to redisover that same person. He’s in there somewhere! I do have some smaller goals though surrounding things that interest me. I bought a keyboard a year ago but have never really bothered with it but I am going to start taking lessons soon and hopefully become a rock god! Actually I think it’s probably too late for that. I am also into photography and have been sharing photos on Instagram with other like minded people. Last week I was ready to delete my account because so many of the photos remind me of my ex. A friend told me not to as I would probably end up regretting it and she was right. I have set myself a goal to learn more about photography and continue to share my experiences through photos. I appreciate that none of this may be relevant to you but I just wanted to share a couple of examples of my small goals in my pursuit of finding the old me again. Something else that hit home that I read elsewhere on this forum was that it is ok to be a bit selfish, to do the things you want to do. I intend to do quite a bit of that.

    A very close of friend of mine gave me some really good advice the other day and I intend to try and follow it. The advice was simply this; don’t try and look too far into the future, just concentrate on the next 24 hours. That’s exactly what I intend to do, to just try and achieve small things as I go along and hopefully rediscover myself and be happy on my own again. When I do I may try online dating again.

    Thank you for being so open and sharing your experiences, a lot of what you have said I can relate to and just reading through them and other posts have helped me turn my thoughts into positive ones. Even though I know negatives thoughts will come back. If I come across as sounding quite positive I really don’t right now. Waves of sadness come over me without warning and I know I have long way to go. But I do believe I will get there and I hope you do too.

    #71019
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi andyt,

    You are welcome and I’m glad that what I wrote can be some kind of help. I don’t know why I have been willing to share on this forum, because before my marriage ended, I keep anything to myself and tried to deal with everything on my own. I think your friend had a good way at looking at things. Even if I make goals that have a year long timeline, I will still only be able to accomplish them if I work towards them day to day.

    Although, I have the responsibility of having two sons to look out for every week, I know I need to do some more things that I want to do. It will be a benefit to them if I am happier because I am living my life. Lately, I have been struggling to stay positive. It is something I want to improve on because I wasn’t a guy that had a problem with that, at one time.

    Also, I’m sorry to hear about your relationship ending. I’m kind of guessing that is where you feel ‘waves of sadness’ come over you. If I am not correct about this than let me know. If it is, I can relate to you then. The first year that my marriage ended, I felt like that regularly. I don’t feel sadness too often. Nothing like that ever lasts for long. Now, I just feel too much stress. That is where setting goals to get to a better place overall, will help.

    Take care

    #71023
    Andy
    Participant

    Hi Steve

    You are absolutely right, the ‘waves of sadness’ are all to do with the relationship ending. Today has been ok though, not great either but not bad. Just ok and I’ll take that! I know that I will have bad days emotionally but I will also have good days and eventually get back to my old self. One day at a time though.

    It’s interesting what you say about sharing your experiences on this forum. I’ve always been the same as you in the past, keeping things to myself and trying to sort out my own head. When I started reading the various posts on the forum yesterday I realised how much it helped me to relate to my own problems. Also, once I had written down how I was feeling in the reply to your post I felt a sort of relief by sharing. So maybe the reason you do share on here helps you too, I might be wrong of course.

    Good luck with your goals and thanks for taking the time to reply.

    Andy

    #71186
    Sarah
    Participant

    Dr Phil’s “Self Matters” book has been great for me so far, at a crossroads in my life, to find out more about my ‘authentic self’ and my goals, interests etc. for the future. Maybe this could give some help.

    Good luck Steve.

    #71234
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Sarah,

    Thanks for letting me know about the book. I’ll check it out. I haven’t done anything except complete the VIA strengths questionnaire that chiwonk mentioned. I have to find motivation and energy again. It feels like time is racing by and I am staying in the same place or going backwards.

    #71272
    Chiwonk
    Participant

    Here is the follow up to the VIA Strengths Questionnaire:

    The basic idea behind this approach is that depressed people get stuck, so finding ways to be happier will get you motivated. Also, it is easier and more inspiring to work on your strengths than your weaknesses, so why not start there?

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    A second approach that has shown promise in Seligman’s group has people discover their personal strengths through a specialized questionnaire and choose the five most prominent ones. Then, every day for a week, they are to apply one or more of their strengths in a new way.

    It helps to journal about this.

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    Here is the bigger article:

    Researchers seek routes to happier life
    By MALCOLM RITTER
    AP Science Writer

    NEW YORK — As a motivational speaker and executive coach, Caroline Adams Miller knows a few things about using mental exercises to achieve goals. But last year, one exercise she was asked to try took her by surprise.

    Every night, she was to think of three good things that happened that day and analyze why they occurred. That was supposed to increase her overall happiness.

    “I thought it was too simple to be effective,” said Miller, 44, of Bethesda. Md. “I went to Harvard. I’m used to things being complicated.”

    Miller was assigned the task as homework in a master’s degree program. But as a chronic worrier, she knew she could use the kind of boost the exercise was supposed to deliver.

    She got it.

    “The quality of my dreams has changed, I never have trouble falling asleep and I do feel happier,” she said.
    Results may vary, as they say in the weight-loss ads. But that exercise is one of several that have shown preliminary promise in recent research into how people can make themselves happier – not just for a day or two, but long-term. It’s part of a larger body of work that challenges a long-standing skepticism about whether that’s even possible.

    There’s no shortage of advice in how to become a happier person, as a visit to any bookstore will demonstrate. In fact, Martin Seligman of the University of Pennsylvania and colleagues have collected more than 100 specific recommendations, ranging from those of the Buddha through the self-improvement industry of the 1990s.

    The problem is, most of the books on store shelves aren’t backed up by rigorous research, says Sonja Lyubomirsky, a psychologist at the University of California, Riverside, who’s conducting such studies now. (She’s also writing her own book).

    In fact, she says, there has been very little research in how people become happier.

     
    Why? The big reason, she said, is that many researchers have considered that quest to be futile.

    For decades, a widely accepted view has been that people are stuck with a basic setting on their happiness thermostat. It says the effects of good or bad life events like marriage, a raise, divorce, or disability will simply fade with time.

    We adapt to them just like we stop noticing a bad odor from behind the living room couch after a while, this theory says. So this adaptation would seem to doom any deliberate attempt to raise a person’s basic happiness setting.

    As two researchers put it in 1996, “It may be that trying to be happier is as futile as trying to be taller.”

    But recent long-term studies have revealed that the happiness thermostat is more malleable than the popular theory maintained, at least in its extreme form. “Set-point is not destiny,” says psychologist Ed Diener of the University of Illinois.

    One new study showing change in happiness levels followed thousands of Germans for 17 years. It found that about a quarter changed significantly over that time in their basic level of satisfaction with life. (That’s a popular happiness measure; some studies sample how one feels through the day instead.) Nearly a tenth of the German participants changed by three points or more on a 10-point scale.
    Other studies show an effect of specific life events, though of course the results are averages and can’t predict what will happen to particular individuals. Results show long-lasting shadows associated with events like serious disability, divorce, widowhood, and getting laid off.

    The boost from getting married, on the other hand, seems to dissipate after about two years, says psychologist Richard E. Lucas of Michigan State University.

    What about the joys of having children? Parents recall those years with fondness, but studies show childrearing takes a toll on marital satisfaction, Harvard psychologist Daniel Gilbert notes in his recent book, “Stumbling on Happiness.” Parents gain in satisfaction as their kids leave home, he said.

    “Despite what we read in the popular press,” he writes, “the only known symptom of ’empty nest syndrome’ is increased smiling.”
    Gilbert says people are awful at predicting what will make them happy. Yet, Lucas says, “most people are happy most of the time.” That is, in a group of people who have reasonably good health and income, most will probably rate a 7.5 or so on a happiness scale of zero to 10, he says.

    Still, many people want to be happier. What can they do? That’s where research by Lyubomirsky, Seligman and others comes in.
    The think-of-three-good-things exercise that Miller, the motivational speaker, found so simplistic at first is among those being tested by Seligman’s group at the University of Pennsylvania.

    People keep doing it on their own because it’s immediately rewarding, said Seligman colleague Acacia Parks. It makes people focus more on good things that happen, which might otherwise be forgotten because of daily disappointments, she said.
    Miller said the exercise made her notice more good things in her day, and that now she routinely lists 10 or 20 of them rather than just three.

    A second approach that has shown promise in Seligman’s group has people discover their personal strengths through a specialized questionnaire and choose the five most prominent ones. Then, every day for a week, they are to apply one or more of their strengths in a new way.

    Strengths include things like the ability to find humor or summon enthusiasm, appreciation of beauty, curiosity and love of learning. The idea of the exercise is that using one’s major “signature” strengths may be a good way to get engaged in satisfying activities.
    These two exercises were among five tested on more than 500 people who’d visited a Web site called “Authentic Happiness.” Seligman and colleagues reported last year that the two exercises increased happiness and reduced depressive symptoms for the six months that researchers tracked the participants. The effect was greater for people who kept doing the exercises frequently. A followup study has recently begun.

    Another approach under study now is having people work on savoring the pleasing things in their lives like a warm shower or a good breakfast, Parks said. Yet another promising approach is having people write down what they want to be remembered for, to help them bring their daily activities in line with what’s really important to them, she said.

    Lyubomirsky, meanwhile, is testing some other simple strategies. “This is not rocket science,” she said.

    For example, in one experiment, participants were asked to regularly practice random acts of kindness, things like holding a door open for a stranger or doing a roommate’s dishes, for 10 weeks. The idea was to improve a person’s self-image and promote good interactions with other people.

    Participants who performed a variety of acts, rather than repeating the same ones, showed an increase in happiness even a month after the experiment was concluded. Those who kept on doing the acts on their own did better than those who didn’t.

    Other approaches she has found some preliminary promise for include thinking about the happiest day in your life over and over again, without analyzing it, and writing about how you’ll be 10 years from now, assuming everything goes just right.

    Some strategies appear to work better for some people than others, so it’s important to get the right fit, she said.
    But it’ll take more work to see just how long the happiness boost from all these interventions actually lasts, with studies tracking people for many months or years, Lyubomirsky said.

    Any long-term effect will probably depend on people continuing to work at it, just as folks who move to southern California can lose their appreciation of the ocean and weather unless they pursue activities that highlight those natural benefits, she said.
    In fact, Diener says, happiness probably is really about work and striving.

    “Happiness is the process, not the place,” he said via e-mail. “So many of us think that when we get everything just right, and obtain certain goals and circumstances, everything will be in place and we will be happy…. But once we get everything in place, we still need new goals and activities. The Princess could not just stop when she got the Prince.”

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    Since you are just starting out in this area, perhaps a good goal would be try 12 different approaches this year, each for a month.

    Good Luck!

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