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    starlight1
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    Ive tried reading the bible many times, partly because i was convinced one of the Abrahamic religions was the right path. But i really think that some of the stories have traumatised me and the God they present at times seems impossible to please, overly critical, or abusive.

    Im wondering if its reasonable to put these difficulties down to changes that have happened over time, or translation difficulties? But though that may be the case, how does one heal from trauma caused by being exposed to them?

    I feel as if my perception of God has been distorted. I feel that theres too much violence in scriptures. Of course, it hasnt just been reading them thats led to difficulties in my spiritual life; my own life experiences have also contributed to this difficulty. Maybe i was introduced to them too soon?

    I note that people seem to be separated into righteous and wicked categories, and i think that one particular problem is that if youre angry (or other difficult emotions) somehow you are failing at righteousness.

    #457501
    anita
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    Hey again, Starlight1 🌟

    The “overly critical, abusive” God of the old testament is a depiction of God in the image of man (or woman) in authority, like a parent.

    My goodness, as I read your mention of anger 😠= failing at righteousness, I connected it to what I wrote to you a little while ago in your first thread, and the connection to intrusive thinking.

    Anger is way more than a natural emotion (which it is, natural and healthy in itself) when connecting it to morality.

    What is your relationship to anger?

    If this speaks to you, I’ll be happy to explore anger (and other emotions) with you.

    🙂😠☺️😞😡🤪 Anita

    #457504
    starlight1
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    Hi Anita :),

    Thanks so much, your post does speak to me!
    I guess my relationship to anger began when i was not permitted to express it! Then added to that i experienced some incredibly difficult situations without support. Following that i experienced mental health problems for a time, but things improved.

    Ive tried to become more assertive, and be better at setting boundaries, but because of the experiences i had sometimes i still get angry, etc.

    #457505
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Starlight1:

    It’s okay to still get angry. It doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with you or that you didn’t heal enough. Seems to me like you’re on the right track. Things take time to heal.

    When you’re not allowed to express anger in any way.. what happens to the unexpressed, suppressed anger- it naturally grows!

    And going through incredibly difficult situations without support is.. in credibly difficult. Without support everything feels heavier.

    I’m glad to read that things improved for you mentally!

    It is difficult to learn to be assertive and set boundaries when you weren’t taught those things. Isn’t it?

    Anita

    #457507
    starlight1
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thanks for your reply. Yes, it can be a big challenge to be assertive and set boundaries. I think of setting boundaries as very basically saying yes to good or helpful things, and saying no to the opposite. But i found that sometimes you have to stop seeing some people.

    With assertiveness, i think i need more practice, much more practice.

    The trouble with reading some of the stories ive read is that i think one inevitably references them to ones own experiences.

    So, if theres been trauma, characters can merge/ become conflated. I think this can be especially problematic when sufficient context isnt understood for the stories or narratives, or the wrong perspective or teaching is shared.

    This highlights to me the need for insight, understanding and correct education for teachers of religion and spirituality, as well as much sensitivity to the student or audience.

    Talking about this with you, is helping me think about spiritual trauma more clearly – one possible aspect of it anyway.

    #457513
    anita
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    Hi again Starlight 🌟

    What you wrote makes a lot of sense. Boundaries and assertiveness are skills that take time and practice, especially when you didn’t grow up with people who respected your limits. Sometimes the healthiest boundary really is stepping back from certain people, even if that’s difficult.

    I also understand what you mean about reading other people’s stories. When there’s been trauma, the mind naturally compares everything to our own experiences, and sometimes the lines can blur. It happens for a very simple, very human reason: the brain uses your own past to make sense of anything new.

    When you’ve been hurt before, your brain learns to scan new situations for anything that feels similar to the old danger. It’s trying to protect you. So, when you read a story, hear someone else’s experience, or take in a spiritual teaching, your mind immediately checks (even without actually thinking these thoughts): “Is this like what happened to me?” “Is this safe or unsafe?” “Does this remind me of something I’ve lived through?”

    Because trauma memories are stored in a very emotional, sensory way — not in neat, logical files — the brain can mix the new story with the old one. That’s why the lines blur.

    This is why trauma‑aware teaching matters so much. People with trauma need context, clarity, and gentleness, because their brains are working overtime to protect them.

    Without enough context or sensitivity, spiritual or religious teachings can easily get mixed with old wounds, and that can feel confusing or even harmful.

    What you’re noticing is insightful. You’re seeing how your history affects the way you interpret things, and why trauma‑aware teaching is so important. I’m glad our conversation is helping you think about spiritual trauma more clearly. You’re making thoughtful connections, and that kind of awareness is a big part of healing.

    If you want to explore this more, I’m here, in this thread and in the other 🙂

    Anita

    #457527
    starlight1
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thanks for writing, and again i find your replies clear and helpful.

    In your first paragraph, you mention ‘limits’. Its causing me to think of what might be helpful to aid recognition of personal needs. I think the need for sufficient rest and also sleep is essential.

    Self care is really important, as well as caring for others.

    Im going to rest a bit and give your post some more thought.

    #457529
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Starlight 🌟 ✨️ ⭐️

    About limits: mine, growing up, were crossed so severely and so early that I was clueless 🙈 for the longest time about what my limits were or should be.

    In our communication, please exercise your right to set limits and be assertive 💪

    🙂 Anita

    #457531
    starlight1
    Participant

    Hi Anita,i can really relate to that!

    Thank you for the reminder to set limits, but honestly im not sure sometimes what they are.

    At the moment ive got dreadful shoulder pain and i think ive been sleeping awkwardly.

    To be honest Anita im weary of the recovery journey. I dont forgive some people for what happened.

    #457532
    starlight1
    Participant

    Hi Anita, im sorry that your limits were crossed so severely. I meant to write about that and just realised i hadnt. Please self care too and rest when you need to.
    Take care.

    #457535
    anita
    Participant

    Good morning again🙂, Starlight:

    What you wrote about sometimes not knowing where your limits are — that’s such a common outcome of early boundary violations. It’s not unique to just me and you.

    I’m sorry you’re in so much shoulder pain right now. Physical pain on top of emotional work can make everything more difficult. And what you said about being weary of the recovery journey makes complete sense. Healing isn’t a straight line, and it isn’t always inspiring. Sometimes it’s just tiring.

    About forgiveness — you don’t owe it to anyone. Not forgiving certain people is a completely valid place to be. It doesn’t make you stuck; it means you’re telling the truth about what happened and what it cost you. You get to move at your own pace, and you get to decide what forgiveness even means for you, if anything.

    Thank you also for your kindness toward me. I appreciate you acknowledging what I shared, and your reminder to rest. I’m taking care of myself, and I want you to know that you don’t have to protect me from your story. You’re not a burden. You’re simply speaking from your life, and I’m listening with a steady mind and a quiet heart 🤍

    If you want to keep exploring limits, or if you need to slow down because of the pain and the weariness, either direction is completely fine. You get to set the pace.

    🤍 Anita

    #457536
    anita
    Participant

    Still morning, Starlight ✨

    I was wondering if I should reply to your 3rd thread here for 2 reasons: (1) to not spread or our 1 to 1 communication over too many threads, and (2) other responders (sadly I’m the only one responding for quite some time) may not want to intrude on our 1-to-1 conversation. If I leave your 3rd (and maybe 4th, etc.) thread unanswered, maybe someone else will answer it.

    What do you think, Starlight? I would like to respond to your 3rd thread here or there, whatever you choose. Just let me know 🙂

    #457537
    starlight1
    Participant

    Thank you so much for your kindness Anita. Im grateful to you, and for Lori, the provider of this forum, for giving me this ‘listening’ time.

    I really appreciate what you are saying about not forgiving, and going at your own pace. It also brings to mind making amends when you know youve done something wrong. I have tried making amends for some things, but i do feel burdened over that. I feel i need some guidance so im going to see someone, i just hope its right.

    Its a beautiful day out today, something to be grateful for. I will take a rest and reflect on what we’ve said. Take care.

    #457538
    starlight1
    Participant

    Ps. Wrt to reading certain stories on this journey, im asking myself why do it? I think id be better reading childrens books sometimes.

    #457539
    anita
    Participant

    You are very welcome, Starlight. You probably didn’t read the message I submitted 6 minutes before yours (the one before the most recent) in regard to answering your 3rd thread. No rush, whenever you answer is fine.

    I didn’t understand your most recent post. If you’d like to elaborate, please do (no rush, after your rest. Actually, I need rest myself).

    🤍 Anita

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