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  • #189631
    Buddi
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    Hi – I came from a middle class family where family drama was always there. My dad had a lot of family issue including anger issues. Verbal abuse was common and since men are allowed to be angry in our culture it was considered no big deal. My dad never hit me but I have been beaten by my mom was not studying too hard (again common) , they wanted me to get married as soon as I was done with my BA but I begged and pleaded to wait until I was done with my Masters. Never had a Boyfriend never dated (too shit scared of my parents finding out and ending my freedom, that was my punishment when I did something really wrong like get a call from a guy or if they sniffed I had a crush they would ground me for months at home no friends, no going out no talking to anyone outside).  I had an arranged marriage customary from where I come (I was 24 yrs. when I got married, my parents choose him I said yes two months later I was married the deciding factor was that he was in the USA I would get the hell away from my parents) been married for the last 15yrs and we have a kid. My marriage was not perfect but it was not bad, he was a standup guy and is hard working has a good job. He also gets upset but it’s nothing at all compared to what I was used to at home. We would never fight for long I would always reach out and patch up. Once we had our kid we kind of got busy and grew apart physically.

    A few years ago I met a Man (let’s call him Mike) at work and I feel in love. I have never experienced an emotion so deep. Mike was getting a divorce and we bonded as friends. I was there for him thru thick and thin during his divorce (he said he wife was unavailable emotionally hence the divorce), his father’s death, when he lost his jobs (3 jobs in three years and all of them where he was asked to resign coz he was not getting along with the boss or team), we got involved romantically for a few years. He knew I was married and but I wanted nothing more than to be with him.

    Slowly I started seeing that he would get mad at me when things did not go his way I remember there would be times he would leave for months and never communicate with me (I would text fanatically asking why he would not respond and beg him to just say something I would wake up with a feeling of a pin going thru my body when he used to disappear and not speak with me) and then he would come back and start again. (I allowed it so it’s my mistake too I know that). I remember a few incidents that just broke me from within this one time I had made plans to go spend the weekend with him I had made all the reservations I was on the road to pick him up and he texted me saying he can’t make it coz his mom had a heart attack. Later I found out from him he lied coz he was just scared that my husband would catch us.

    I would never get wished on my birthday he always had some excuse (i forgot, I am traveling …) and every time I asked him why he would treat me like this he would say coz he wants to be with me and I am unavailable. So one such event we made plans and he cancelled last moment, saying his aunt was in the hospital and probably won’t make it. I said it was fine and that he should go be with his family. Something in me said he was lying and I was right. When I confronted him later about it he said he was just embarrassed to tell me he had diarrhea (which later did not add up). I decided that was the end of it and I was done, I told him I cannot trust him anymore. To that the following events happened. After I ended it he came back apologized said it was just a misunderstanding and that he never meant to lie and all that. When I did not respond he threatened to tell my husband I still did not budge but one day he taxed me saying he is going out on a date with a woman from my ethnicity and wanted some advice and that she so beautiful and so young Mike was now 50 years.

    I asked him why he would be so cruel to me by telling me he is going out with someone else. He said I wasted his time and that I moved on to the next man and that I just used him. I assured him that the only reason I ended it was coz I could not bear the way he was treating me lies after lies and just discarding me like I was a trash bag. I could not bear the idea of him being with someone else so I decided to come clean tell my husband and be with Mike. I told my parents and my husband. I told Mike that I had told everyone and him just said “you should have done this a long time ago” and disappeared for weeks without another word. He then comes back and says he was scared for his life and career coz now my husband knows. I stopped responding coz I knew no matter I did to be with him nothing will be enough but yet I love him and still do. Why would a guy in his 50’s do what he did? If he has no intention of being with me why did he come back after he lied and say things that made me believe he wanted me the same way I wanted him?

     

    It’s been two years since I stopped responding to him he would text on my birthday wish me he would ask how I was and I said nothing.

    I apologized to my husband and begged forgiveness he stayed in the marriage coz we have a kid together but he made it clear he would never ever want anything to do with me. I did everything I could to show how sorry I was. I asked if we could see a counselor just to have better communication and he said no. I did not force him. Every time I stand up for myself he rolls his eyes and walks away.

    My husband has a dream of making my son something big in sports and he has a very tough way of teaching my kid and my kid does not like it one bit. My kid cries to me and asks me why dad is so mean to him. I have heard my child say things like “Dad will never be happy no matter how hard I try” or “ If Santa was real and gave presents to parents Dad will never get a present coz he is so mean”. My husband is kind of putting all this pressure on my kid and it is not taking well. So I have to stand up for son I tell my son the most important thing is to be happy. My son is 9 years old and I feel sad when he asks me why his dad is mean I do not know what to say. I know my husband loves him to death. I stand up for my son and ask for some lenience but that always ends in an argument where he just says ok do what you want and shuts down.

     

    It’s been two years since I stopped responding to him he would text on my birthday wish me he would ask how I was and I said nothing. A few days ago I saw that Mike has updated his Display Pic with this woman he is seeing and it has torn me to bits, I have no idea what was less in me? In a moment of despair I texted Mike and he did what he always did blame me for everything and said he had the right to move on and that he has forgiven me (I don’t understand what was there for him to forgive me?). This guys was my soulmate. All my friends have told me what everyone is thinking MOVE ON. But I don’t know how, the man I loved and gave my soul to is with someone else and I am slowly dying from within.

    How do I let go of him? (I have read books from Eckhart Tolle, Prema Chondron and tried meditation and positive thinking but he is there always on my mind. Everyone says I should move on but I do not know what to move onto? I feel deprived of love. I tried to make peace with it saying may be this life I do not get to be loved in a romantic way. I have no idea where to go from here.

    #189647
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Buddi:

    I hope there is a way or ways for you to help your son who reached out to you for help. Telling him that that “the most important thing is to be happy” won’t do much good for him when being happy to him means pleasing his father who makes such pleasing very difficult or impossible.

    The title of your thread is “I have been stuck for the last three years”- reads to me that you have been stuck for way longer, starting in childhood, being stuck with your parents (I was stuck too, many of us have been..). To escape that entrapment, you agreed to an arranged marriage and at one point on were stuck in that marriage. And then, you escaped, at times, to a man, Mike, who repeatedly lied to you, a man not reliable.

    You wrote that Mike was your soulmate. I wonder: how so? How was he your soulmate?

    anita

    #189651
    Buddi
    Participant

     hope there is a way or ways for you to help your son who reached out to you for help. Telling him that that “the most important thing is to be happy” won’t do much good for him when being happy to him means pleasing his father who makes such pleasing very difficult or impossible.

    Anita I have tried to reason with my son by asking him on weather or not he likes the sport that his father choose for him he says he does but he just does not like to being trained by his dad. My husband is consumed with our son being a golfer and my idea is different I believe a child needs to experiment in different fields and then decide what they can purse and excel in. I just do not want to speak ill or advice wrong to my son. I was never allowed to experiment or do what I want and I so badly want it for my kid. I want him to live and love his life.

    Mike was your soulmate. I wonder: how so? How was he your soulmate?

    It was a feeling from within me. I could relate to him and he could tell me anything , I never judged him. I was there for him no matter what I was always there rooted like a tree. I loved him and still do with every fiber in my body and it is not enough this has put such a dent in my life.

     

    #189655
    Mark
    Participant

    Buddi,  It is tough when two parents have such different views on how to raise their children.  Your son is not being abused. Is he?  He is having an emotionally hard time being not good enough for his father.  He may benefit having someone help him to be able to cope and strengthen himself emotionally.  Life hands us emotionally and physically challenges.  You cannot protect him from it all.  As a parent, the best thing you can do for him is to help him to cope better with those challenges.  Give him the tools to be stronger emotionally.

    Mark

    #189659
    Buddi
    Participant

    Hi Mark – No my son is not being abused I wont let that happen ever, but he is having a hard time trying to please his dad. I will look up on tools to help kids.

    I think I need to be mentally strong first and learn to accept the challenges in life rather than being stuck and feeling helpless.

    #189665
    Mark
    Participant

    Buddi,

    You also may want to seek outside help in helping your son to be mentally strong and dealing with challenges in life rather than waiting for you to fully get there.  Perhaps a therapist for a couple of sessions in order to teach him to handle things without feeling like a victim?

    Good luck,
    Mark

     

    #189747
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Buddi:

    I see only one way to possibly make a difference in how your husband treats your son and that is to attend to your husband’s motivation. Your husband, you wrote, is consumed with his/your son being a golfer, you wrote. That is his motivation: I want my son to be a golfer!

    Gently send your husband the message that a different kind of training of his son, a gentler training, will get him what he wants, that is, his son being a golfer and getting better and better at it. Somehow, through examples of famous golfers’ or other sport people’s stories online, show him how gentler training works better, and is way more likely to get him, your husband, what he wants: a golfer for a son.

    Telling your husband that his training and otherwise treatment of your son is not to your liking is not likely to affect him because he doesn’t care what you think, does he. Telling him that his treatment is not good for your son’s well being is not likely to make a difference because he may care way more for a golfer for a son than anything else.

    So attend to your husband’s motivation, to what your husband values, that is more likely to work for the benefit of your son.

    Regarding your answer to my question regarding Mike, you wrote that your feeling that he was your soulmate had to do with you never judging him, being “there for him no matter what”, being “there rooted like a tree. I loved him and still do with every fiber in my body”-

    Reads to me that your feeling of him as your soul mate has more to do with how you love him than it does with how he loved or loves you. You love him like you wished your whole life that you were loved, don’t you? To be loved unconditionally, no matter what, completely, like a rooted tree.

    It is a different kind of love that you experienced at home where you grew up, your parents’ love for you was very conditional: if you had a crush on a guy (a feeling you couldn’t help, as we don’t choose what we feel), that was enough for them to un-love you, to punish you.

    I think you value the kind of love you wish you had as a child. For some reason, Mike was the recipient of this kind of love, from you.

    What about his lies, I wonder, how does it to love someone so completely knowing they lied to you repeatedly and are in the habit of doing so?

    anita

     

    #189815
    Buddi
    Participant

    Anita thanks so much for taking time to respond you have no idea how much I appreciate it.

    I have reached a point where I want to start making changes in order to move on and I do not know how and which direction I should head? I want be able to put an end to this pain inside of me I cant forgive myself for cheating at the same time I know I do not regret loving Mike those feelings are real and nothing like I have experienced. But I do not know how to let go of him I want to start somewhere.

    I am going to try telling my husband to try a different method to help our son be better at Golf I hope he listens.

    #189831
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Buddi:

    You are welcome.

    You feel a strong emotional attachment to Mike. The nature of attachment of any kind is that it is difficult to let go. I need to be away from the computer for about sixteen hours or so. If you would like to share more about your attachment to him, please do.

    I was wondering, regarding your guilty feelings you mentioned above, guilty for cheating on your husband- how did you manage to continue to cheat on him for many months (or years?) on and on and on… what did you do with those guilty feelings throughout that long period of  time?

    anita

     

    #189839
    Buddi
    Participant

    I think my feelings for Mike was so deep rooted that nothing else mattered, so yea I did feel guilty but the very idea of not having Mike or giving him up was not an option for me. I knew how I would react when he would stop talking to me I would wake up and it felt like a rush of pain would go thru my body, I lost interest at work. In reality now that I think of it I was just too afraid to give him up knowing that I would just not feel happiness the way I felt with him. It was physical and emotional something I was not allowed to choose or experience before.

    It felt like something just pierced thru me when I saw his pic with another woman, but I also somewhere deep within knew it was the inevitable truth. Dealing with reality and enduring the emotions (it almost feels like death again all over)  is what I want. I want to accept that Love is not meant for me not in this life. My friends keep saying there is more than one kind of love that they love me but like all humans I want to be loved the way I loved Mike (I know expecting this unfair and unrealistic) I ask my self this all the time what was less in me? Why did he not want me the way I wanted him?

     

     

    #189901
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Buddi:

    I want to understand you better so I re-read your posts. In your original post you wrote about your parents, when you lived with them: “If they sniffed I had a crush they would ground me for months at home no friends, no going out no talking to anyone outside”- they punished you severely for feeling love for a boy.

    Then they chose a man for you to marry.

    The man you married “also gets upset but it’s nothing at all compared to what I was used to at home”- it doesn’t mean that you have been okay with his anger. It doesn’t mean that how he expresses his anger is okay. It just means that your parents were more aggressive, more punishing.

    And then you met Mike and you fell in love. Finally you had your chance to love a man, a man you chose. And you loved him, being there for him “thru thick and thin”, wanting “nothing more than to be with him”. You let your heart love him all the way.

    Unfortunately, he too expressed his anger in ways that hurt you, leaving for months without communicating with you. He lied to you repeatedly as well. He didn’t treat you well. He threatened you with telling your husband about the two of you. He cruelly asked you for advice about him dating another woman who was “so beautiful and so young”.

    And when you told your parents and your husband about Mike, so to please him, he was displeased, discounting what you did with “you should have done this a long time ago”, and disappeared from your life once again without another word.

    But you still love him, and you asked: “Why would a guy in his 50s do what he did? .. why did he come back after he lied and say things that made me believe he wanted me the same way I wanted him?”

    For two years since you responded to Mike. You recently saw his display pic with another woman that that “tore (you) to bits”. You asked: “I have no idea what was less in me?”. You texted him and he responded with blaming you “for everything”.

    Next you wrote: “This guy was my soulmate… the man I loved and gave my soul to is with someone else and I am slowly dying from within”.

    Later you wrote: “I do not regret loving Mike those feelings are real and nothing like I experienced. But I do not know how to let go of him I want to start somewhere.

    And later you wrote: “I want to accept that Love is not meant for me not this life.. I want to be loved the way I loved Mike… I ask myself this all the time what was less in me? Why did he not want me the way I wanted him?”

    This is my understanding: you grew up unloved. You were punished, not loved. You were shown aggression, not tenderness. When you felt love for a boy, you were forbidden to see the boy. You were punished, isolated.

    You were on one hand unloved, and on the other, you were not allowed to love and be loved by a boy. You also didn’t have the opportunity to develop a loving relationship, to get to know a boy over time.

    Next a marriage was arranged for you and it was an opportunity for you to escape your parents. The man was not as aggressive as your father, a relief of sorts, but not good enough- no love there.

    Next, you meet Mike. You shared nothing positive or endearing about Mike: he was repeatedly cruel to you, lied to you, threatened you, blamed you again and again.

    But because you were so hungry to love, and to be loved, and because you never had the opportunity to love and be loved, never got to know a man through time, to evaluate who a man is, never had that experience of a developing love relationship-

    you dived into it blindly, all excited, consumed to finally, finally love and be loved.

    It didn’t matter who Mike is, all that mattered to you, understandably, is that finally you had the opportunity, for the first time in your life, to love and be loved by a man.

    Mike’s behavior is not about who you are but about who he is. He is not a good potential love partner for any woman.

    What happened with Mike is that you loved him, but he did not love you, not capable (no matter the woman). And so, it is possible for you to love again, for the second time in your life (Mike being the first), but to be loved in return by a man(for the first time in your life)- only not him, not Mike. And it reads like it is not your husband either.

    anita

     

     

     

    #189913
    Buddi
    Participant

    I am strong believer in karma and I believe I am in pain right now because of the choices I made. So I ask my self if Karma served me why did it not serve Mike? Why did he get to move on and be happy with woman ?

    Funny part is he wished me on my birthday last November and he updates his profile pic in Jan, what does this mean? Has been seeing her all along? Why text me when he is with someone else?

    I know there is no point analyzing anything he made a choice and it came at a price “my happiness”.

    #189917
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Buddi:

    You are a strong believer in karma, you wrote. Does it mean that you strongly believe that Mike will suffer for mistreating you in this lifetime?

    anita

    #189919
    Buddi
    Participant

    I feel horrible for thinking that. You should never wish ill on anyone but I feel like he took my soul out of me like I lost a part of my body.

    How is it that he moved on without any regrets or consequences ? Does this mean he probably did not do anything wrong?

    #189925
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Buddi:

    You feel hurt by his mistreatment of you and naturally you feel angry at him. Feeling angry at him does not make you a horrible person. Or a good person. Just a person.

    Regarding the consequences for his actions, this is how I see it: the reason he mistreated you (and unfortunate others in his life) follows him having been mistreated himself. If he had a loving childhood, he wouldn’t have proceeded to mistreat others on a regular, consistent basis as he had.

    So the consequences you wish he suffers- they happened already- before he met you. They came before.

    anita

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