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  • #460400
    shinnen
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    I often hear people use the term Letting go;
    and, to me, this implies letting go of what you’re holding on to.
    So, how can one let go of something they don’t want.
    Surely, in this instance, letting go implies pushing away.
    I can’t see how one can ‘let go’ of what they’re not holding on to.
    shinnen

    #460403
    anita
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    Hello Shinnen, good to read from you again.

    How to let go of something you don’t want.. like intrusive, OCD-like thoughts, as an example?

    Or let’s say, envy of others, or anger?

    Is that what you mean?

    🤔 Anita

    #460415
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Shinnen

    Lovely to see you! 🩵 😄

    When I think of letting go, I think of resistance to what people don’t want.

    Emotional reactions last for 90 seconds in the body and thinking about things keeps feelings alive beyond that.

    The brain works in a funny way so if your mind perceives a thought as important the more likely it is to reoccur. Also, traumatic memories can reoccur because they haven’t been fully processed.

    There are many ways to address this.

    Acceptance. Distraction or compartmentalisation. Reframing the issue so it is less stressful to the individual. Relaxation.

    Oh and I think the physical causes are underrated to. Sleep deprivation is a big one. It’s like being drunk.

    Funnily enough, I hear people talk about letting go when it comes to meditation as well.

    I’d love to hear your thoughts! 🩵

    #460436
    shinnen
    Participant

    Hi,
    It’s the application of the term ‘letting go’ that I have a problem with.
    For example: suppose I have a fear of snake, frogs, spiders, worms, choose what you like.
    Or maybe I’m anxious about being in a crowd, public speaking. Just some examples. People say,
    oh, let go of your fears. Well, how do you let go of something your afraid of. I just think
    that ‘letting go’ is not what has to be done in these instances. ‘Letting go’ seems to have
    been adopted as the mantra for resolving all sorts of issues which do not require ‘letting go’.
    ……. john

    #460443
    anita
    Participant

    Hi again, Shinnen:

    I’d like to share with you what your posting brought up for me:

    Before I read your explanation, and after my first reply, I remembered how angry and frustrated I used to get when I was told to “get over” my childhood, (which to me, is very similar to being told to “let go”.)

    I couldn’t get over the childhood that damaged me so, nor could I let go of the hurt and shame, guilt, anger and confusion that resulted from that childhood.

    Not because I was stubborn and refused the ‘simple’ act of letting-go/ getting-over it, but because to heal- even partly- one has to walk through what happened (not over), and to let in real clarity about what happened- rather than release (let go) of what is not yet seen clearly.

    Is what I shared here relevant to what You’re talking about?

    Anita

    #460451
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi John

    I see what you mean. I much prefer the word courage. Courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it.

    The goal for me at first is to work with fear. Sometimes safely, gradually, repeatedly exposing yourself to these situations over time can relieve the fear of them somewhat at you learn that the situation is safe and build the confidence and skills to handle the situation and the feelings.

    That being said, I think fear is normal in a lot of situations. Public speaking and job interviews most people are anxious about.

    So it’s really a question of how much a fear negatively affects life. 🩵

    #460466
    anita
    Participant

    Hello again, Shinnen:

    I want to stay in your lane this time, that is to stay with what you’re saying, instead of drifting to what it brings up for me..

    You’re saying that if you’re afraid of something, ex. snakes, the term “let go” implies that your hand is holding a snake, or holding the fear of snakes.

    Which is not true, so it’s a false assumption.

    And based on that false assumption, the offered solution is to relax your hand and let go of the snake or the fear.

    I think that you’re making an excellent point, John, if I’m completely understanding what you’re saying.

    How can I let go of something I’m not holding on to?

    I can’t. It’s a problematic saying then, one that should not be used in this context 🤔

    Anita

    #460484
    Lu
    Participant

    You are onto something real with the snake example. The phrase let it go quietly assumes the fear is a thing you are gripping, so if it stays, you must be choosing to hold on. Anyone who has tried to drop a panic knows it does not work like a hand at all. An alarm metaphor fits better. A smoke alarm does not care whether you hold it, it just goes off when it senses smoke, and an alarm calibrated in a scary childhood will keep smelling smoke in safe rooms. What actually helps is not letting go of the alarm but recalibrating it, slowly, room by room. Maybe that is why get over it and let it go both sting. They hand you a job that is physically impossible, then treat the ongoing pain as you failing at it.

    #460496
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Everyone

    I forgot to add the importance of planning and support.

    For example, I was terrified of giving birth and having a baby. A third of births are traumatic and I already have trauma. I was looking to minimise the fallout.

    Planning can help to manage fear. I learned about various medical procedures performed to understand which ones I’d be comfortable with.

    I considered my needs and the various options. Pain killers, mental health support, couples counselling, labour vs c-section, breastfeeding vs formula. Advocating for myself through a complaints department. A go bag. A birth playlist. Arranging a sitter for my pets. I got all of the products needed for when the baby came. It all helps.

    Using the mind to plan creates a sense of agency over fear and creates a sense of safety. It helps for compartmentalising too. 🩵

    I was still scared, I still had difficulties. But it overall was a good outcome which for someone with my background is very rare.

    I guess… I just see everything as a journey.

    #460502
    shinnen
    Participant

    Hi Anita,
    Yes, exactly.
    … john

    #460503
    shinnen
    Participant

    Hi,
    It seems that we all agree, the term ‘let go’ is a little to simplistic for many of the problems
    it’s applied to. But as Alessa implied, it’s probably a good method with respect to meditation. This
    probably only applies to English speakers, but I find ‘Letting go’ is to be a better mantra during meditation,
    than ‘let go’. ‘Let go’ sounds a little too much like an command, whereas ‘letting go’ is more like a process.
    …. john

    #460545
    Roberta
    Participant

    Hi

    Before I had to go to work yesterday morning my son joined me for a quick guided meditation that I had down loaded from you tube , which we both enjoyed, so I thought I would try & find an equally short one for the evening from the same source & then my son could help his luddite mum download it.
    The second meditation started off ok, but I quickly realized that the direction it was taking could be overwhelming for my son, & I was right, so I used the phrase ” stepping away” & I then helped him breathe & release & changed the video to something that was of interest to us both (Autism).

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