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    Andrew
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    Hello, I’m not sure how to start be here goes.
    Recently I’ve been a little lost in life and seem like I don’t know how to relax and enjoy life (Constantly Bored Mind).
    I’m originally from England and moved to Canada over 11 years ago to forge my own path and get away from some old negative past issues which I did and even got happily married several years ago.
    It’s been good but came with a lot of resentment from my family over the years, and I’ve been back a few times.
    Just before I got married my mother tried to stop the wedding from afar by telling the priest all kinds of nasty lies, this was followed by a period of not talking for a couple of years.
    To fix the situation, I wrote my feelings down and even apologized even though the original issue was not caused by me.
    We started talking again, exchanging gifts, etc.

    Now recently I went back to England with my wife and my family discussed when we are having kids.
    To which i replied we don’t intend to have children, now I the falling out has started again with no talking, myself getting blamed for all my family’s past failings and even now being labelled as hating all kids.

    It’s really eating me inside but talking to my one of my closest friends growing up.
    He mention I’ve always been treated like since I was a kid and if I wanted to smooth things over try another letter.

    I don’t want to do this as I feel I’ve tried on several occasions before and it ends in misery.
    But I don’t know what to do to get this horrible feeling way and get back to my life.

    Sorry for the long winded topic

     

    #152270
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Andrew:

    Am I understanding correctly:

    your mother told lies about you to a priest, trying to prevent your happy marriage from taking place. Following that you didn’t talk for a couple of years. To smooth things over you apologize to her for… her wrongdoing.

    After your marriage you visited your mother you… displeased her by sharing that you didn’t intend to have kids. Again, she is angry with you and there is no talking. And again, you are considering smoothing things over and apologize to her in a letter.

    If I am correct, smoothing things over will, I believe,  alleviate “this horrible feeling” and give you some peace for a little while. Until next time you displease your mother.

    When you  left England eleven years ago to “get away from some old negative past issues”- you got a break, but the past is with you as long as you keep visiting your family members who present these negative issues, your mother, for one; as long as you communicate with them, and as long as you still need them to be okay with you.

    anita

    #152272
    Andrew
    Participant

    Thanks Anita.

    That’s exactly it. I don’t feel like I’m right to just cut ties and walk away without getting hurt initialy myself.
    Or would this be a sensible thing to do?

    #152276
    PearceHawk
    Participant

    Hello Andrew,

    I hope that by the time you read my response, you and your wife are well on the way to a happier life. This is a most troubling situation and unfortunately fear and guilt are a very common manipulation tactic used by family members who cannot/will not respect the life you have chosen. This can be observed in many cultures and religions. The choice that you and yours made to not have children is just as legitimate as choosing to have children. Surely you must know that your decision to not have children is easily construed by social and cultural morés as an immoral violation of what others believe. This reaction is not your fault nor is it a reflection in anyway of your character. It is a reflection by people who use guilt, fear, and manipulation as a way to deny your individuality as a human being. It is an attempt to dismantle your personal constitution for the purpose of molding you to their beliefs without regard to your right to establish yours. Having said that, as long as you look into the rear view mirror of your life and see bad memories, it does not serve you well to import those memories to the present, the here and now. Doing so is only biting on the hook of fear, guilt, and manipulation thereby allowing your family members to reign you in allowing them continued control over your. I have lived through the very same thing with my family. A very long time ago I realized their intentions and decided to make a conscientious decision to no longer accept that. As a result, they have pretty much disowned me in spite of a number of attempt I made to make things better. I have been immensely happy taking control of my life. But the fact that they disowned me, I am very ok with that for it was their decision. I invite you to reject their antiquated, ineffective tactics, and live the happy life that you deserve. Hopefully they will respect the person that you are, and respect your individuality, and find that their ways are destructive and embrace a more positive way to view things. What happened in the past, is only that, events in the past. They are not representative of the here and now, unless you bite that hook, in which case you will be prevented to live your life as you want to live it. It will be a life of someone else’s design, not yours. Should they continue with their immature tirades, know that is a decision they will make. It is not yours to own. Take control of your life my good friend. Live your life with the personal constitution that you create and not by the dictates of others. The only time I have on earth is measured between breaths, something that I, and nobody else is guaranteed. What you had to endure was once upon a time. Resign yourself to let go my friend. You will live a happier life while others will live by their decisions, whatever they may be. I wish you all the love, peace, and happiness that life has tooter, for an eternity longer than a lifetime. It is the least you deserve.

    Pearce

    #152278
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Andrew:

    In your last post, do you mean that you considered cutting ties altogether with your mother, for one, but there is emotional pain (“getting hurt initially myself”)  that you suffer considering cutting all ties?

    If so, reason is, that as children we simply have to have our mother’s/ parents’ approval. It is not negotiable (who will take care of us if … our care taker doesn’t approve of us, is the biological/ survival reasoning). And so we will do anything and everything to gain that approval.

    As adults, we still long for that approval even though practically, we no longer need it. We still long for it because we have longed for it for so long, the longing is part of our brains. As adults, we shed our skin but we don’t shed our childhood brain. The longing is in the brain.

    When we displease our parents as adults, that is, when they disapprove, it triggers the same terrible feeling that it did when we were children, the dread of our survival being threatened. So we will, again, do anything to get their approval, no matter what it is.

    To gain freedom from this incongruence with reality, it takes learning, over time, to relax into the current reality: that your mother’s disapproval has no consequence to your survival; it was so when you were a child, but is no longer so.  It will take managing and enduring that distress, that “terrible feeling”. It may take competent, quality psychotherapy to get there. It will probably take extricating yourself from this dynamic (cutting contact).

    If you cut contact and attend best psychotherapy, you will still feel distress at times. With emotional skills and social support (wife, therapist, others), you will manage the distress involved, so it is not overwhelming. You will gain freedom from the people who harm you, freedom from this form of servitude to the people who harm you (as in apologizing for their wrongdoings, and inviting them for another round of mistreating you); you gain confidence in yourself, a sense of empowerment and so, better life ahead.

    anita

    #152322
    Mark
    Participant

    Hey Andrew,

    I just wanted to suggest perhaps looking over the resentments with each of your family members or others you are in conflict with to think about if perhaps you are being too harsh or are in the wrong in the relationship with one of them. You sound like a very passionate person. Maybe taking some time to reflect and put yourself in their shoes for a few minutes to think about how they might be thinking of you. And then if you decide that you are being to0 harsh, take some more time to of a way you can make things right with them. It doesn’t even have to be obvious — just a sentence tossed into a conversation to let the person know that you care and want to make things right.

    Also, mindfulness practice (not lingering on a troubling thought) and searching for cool things to do (Google and Yelp) can help with the boredom and maybe even some anxiety. Just finding ways to relax and not have your mind on all these things bothering you, then focusing again when they do.

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by Mark.
    #152354
    Seeking
    Participant

    WOW just described my mother to a T.  But I will say as time has moved on she changed.  She finally realized that we are all now adults that her opinion and advice are just that hers.   Keeping our distance and establishing the boundaries  made her  realize that she does not own us anymore.  Hurt, oh it did, no doubt about it the periods of no talking, no visits and being on the “*#@! list all six kids went thru it.  I learned to phrase things in a manner that did not ask for her advice or her approval.  She was typically the last to know what went on in my life until after it had past and I still practice the same with her.  But she raised us to be independent.  I think it was her dependence on us all she knew.

     

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