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  • #83976
    jock
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    Chairman Chuck (aka jumpin Jehovah)
    This guy is like the MC. He introduces and makes sure everyone gets a turn. He has to discipline anyone who starts to hog the limelight like Llama Jack or Analytical Al. he tries to be objective but it isn’t always possible. He tries to be fair but again not always possible. He’s there to act as a balance.

    Jumpin Jack Flash
    This guy thinks he is a rock star. He’s musical, can play a few guitar chords and sings strictly in the key of C, one octave. He fantasises about being a magnet for adoring female fans. Good friends of Llama Jack. Sometimes they combine to make music with silly lyrics.Jumpin’ has narcissitic qualities which annoy Pious Pete and Analytical Al. Hate him or love him, he’s there to stay. Chairman Chuck has had to have a word a few times “hey Jumpin’, don’t get carried away, you’re startin’ to annoy the others”.

    • This reply was modified 7 years ago by jock.
    #84002
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    ok I get it, in which case.

    Sorry for my pushing question but you covered it well
    🙂

    #84038
    Jessa
    Participant

    Hi Jack- I love that you posted this. I’ve done a similar exercise before and have a few kooky ladies of my own running around in my head (that makes it sound a bit like multiple personalities, but I get that that’s not what this is). I feel a little sad and protective of Ruminator Ron- I have my own ruminator (Sally Ann) who I used to despise with a passion. I mean, HATE. An insightful therapist once asked me how I was getting along with this part of myself, and my sarcastic response was that I alternated between wanting to smother her with a pillow and lock her in a closet. To the parts of us that just want to have fun and be free from pain, Sally Ann and Ron are probably desperately annoying and clingy sometimes. For the love of it, why can’t they just shut up and loosen the F up?

    But Sally Ann’s a pragmatic gal, and she sees the cracks and won’t ignore them. She refuses to sweep upsetting things under the rug, and for that quality, she’s a valuable member of my mental team. She’s a little more likeable if I step into her shoes and realize that she’s helped steer me away from a few life catastrophies. Maybe the same is true for Ron?

    #84040
    jock
    Participant

    But Sally Ann’s a pragmatic gal, and she sees the cracks and won’t ignore them. She refuses to sweep upsetting things under the rug, and for that quality, she’s a valuable member of my mental team. She’s a little more likeable if I step into her shoes and realize that she’s helped steer me away from a few life catastrophies. Maybe the same is true for Ron?

    Hi jessa
    thanks for your post. I like your slant on things and yeah I guess I need to give Ruminator Ron his due. If he didn’t exist, I mightn’t notice anything, which would make me less aware….mmmm….but I think Analytical Al fulfills the role without going too far. I can do without the constant replays of negative events. Ron loves going the over same videos all the time “Ron,I’ve seen that one. No need to show me again. Yeah I know they treated you bad, but God get a life! Don’t be such a victim!”

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    #84043
    Jessa
    Participant

    Hahaha 🙂 yeah I could do without those too. They definitely take it too far sometimes. Maybe Sally Ann takes on both roles (analyzer & ruminator) for me because I tend to be more of a feeler than a thinker. Honestly, Sally Ann doesn’t usually relax until I can sit down and just have a good old fashioned cry with her. I have to feel what she’s feeling, instead of rolling my eyes in exasperation, otherwise she’ll never quiet down. Even then it can take several times over before she’s comforted into silence. And if I’m not getting good sleep, you can forget about it. That will be a multi-day process to soothe her (just finished a round of that recently, actually). And eventually she will come back to it, because that’s simply how she is. Metaphorically I guess she’s sort of a special-needs child (to be clear, I’m not trying to diminish that experience, for any parents out there that might be reading).

    Is it like that for you at all? Will Ruminator Ron put down the remote if you sit and have a big old sob-fest with him?

    #84044
    jock
    Participant

    she’s sort of a special-needs child

    Haha. Good one. That’s exactly it. Ruminator Ron is an attention seeking child. I think your stance is make peace with all your selves especially the troublemakers. Have some patience with them. Try different strategies so they can get along.
    My approach is actually to ask him to leave. Send him to a special needs school. I can’t control him when he gets in that mood. He’s potentially dangerous to self and others. If he has to stay, better to just sit quietly and watch the others.
    Or one option is for him to ask to change his name? No that is desperate… 🙂

    #84075
    jock
    Participant

    But doing this thread has helped me reduce Ruminator Ron’s power. I feel I now have him under the microscope. The next time he plays up, I’ll hopefully label him before he gets carried away.
    I can imagine more extroverted people would laugh at this thread. Crazy uh? Why spend time introspecting on an imaginary crowd of inner selves, self-created?”
    All I can say in reply is it genuinely helps me. Maybe I’m strange but I don’t care any more. I know that ignoring what’s going on, inside my head, takes me down the slippery slope to depression and anxiety.

    #84081
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    that’s fantastic

    yeah I’m happy to take that reference in the other post. I didn’t get it is all and now I do.

    #84107
    Jessa
    Participant

    I only ask Sally Ann to leave or quiet down if something else is at stake- like when I’m at work, for example. But I’m okay with that. When I’m at work or out doing something, it’s not always the most appropriate place to feel & express my emotions for the fullest. You can’t exactly sit down for a cry in the middle of your grocery shopping. Anyway, I’m getting carried away with musings now.

    It helps me too. And in the end, what matters more than that? People without anxiety or depression may not get it, but who cares. And maybe it would be odd to extroverts, but to be frank there are a lot of things extroverts do that I just don’t fully get either.

    Thanks for your replies Jack. It’s really nice to know I’m not the only one out there with a gang of pals in my head that require wrangling from time to time. 😉

    #84115
    jock
    Participant

    And maybe it would be odd to extroverts, but to be frank there are a lot of things extroverts do that I just don’t fully get either.

    we’re on the same page there 🙂

    #84157
    Sann
    Participant

    Dear Jack,

    Interesting topic!
    I wonder, how long did it take you, to identify all those different aspects? I think i might need quite a while to figure all of them out.

    A while ago, somebody made me aware of this, and she referred to a book called ‘Voice Dialogue’ – if i remember well.
    She compared it to be a busdriver, where you have a lot of different people who all have something to say, and you have to drive the bus safely and efficiently to his destination. That we need to learn, to recognise them but decide who gets to say his say when. Something like that.

    I don’t have any insight in those different aspects in myself, and i think it would be good to take a look at it. To be able to identify: this is Scared Sann, this good-hearted Gerda, this is Wise Wendy, this is Anxious Andrea, this is Brave Betty, this is Naive Natalie… Is it good to let them have their say now, or should i tell him or her, to sit on his chair and let somebody else have the show..?

    Sorry, i hope i’m not disturbing your topic.
    But i wanted to say that i’m impressed with the thoroughness you can identify all of them.
    Do you do much negotiation work between them, or do they get to have their go when they want?

    #84176
    jock
    Participant

    Hey Sann
    please don’t apologise for replying to my threads…
    your self-esteem needs a boost
    just pretend you have high self-esteem
    I bet there is a confident character in you wanting to express itself?
    Like a shadow? You feel ashamed of this character but he/she is the one who can save you from self-sabotage
    he/she is the one who needs to assert herself more
    for a while you might go too far the other way(too confident) but eventually you will balance things out…

    #84196
    jock
    Participant

    I don’t have any insight in those different aspects in myself, and i think it would be good to take a look at it. To be able to identify: this is Scared Sann, this good-hearted Gerda, this is Wise Wendy, this is Anxious Andrea, this is Brave Betty, this is Naive Natalie… Is it good to let them have their say now, or should i tell him or her, to sit on his chair and let somebody else have the show..?

    Sann
    I’m starting to feel like Edgar the Expert on this topic.. 🙂
    All I can say is that was a useful exercise for me. I needed a strategy for dealing with chaos in my head. This can be triggered by pressure , real or imagined, when my self-esteem is on the line, when the straw has broken the camel’s back. Tired of taking crap from others and myself…(mainly Ruminator Ron and Zac starts to feel invisible)
    I’ve decided that Zac is starved of attention. He needs a boost. The more assertive Zac becomes, the less influence characters like Ron, will have over me.
    ..someone advised a book called “the 7 pillars of self-esteem” . I’ve listened to the audio on YouTube. it is helpful. But I am now trying to be mindful of having good self-esteem every day. The first step is self-acceptance. For me, being 105 kg, I need to embrace the fatness (don’t laugh Anita). Then gradually lose some I guess. But not as if “I refuse to love myself until I’m 85 kg”. That kind of thinking is what makes society sick….in my view.
    to be continued…I need a rest….

    #84381
    jock
    Participant

    Adam the Adult
    I see less of him these days. He was everpresent in my 20s and 30’s. He got the job done. He made sure I got to work and persevered despite the odds often against him. He bought and helped pay a house and car off. Kind of heroic but he ignored Ruminator Ron and Analystical Alan so much so they ceased to exist. He denied there was any chaos in the room. He often said “Man up Jack” He was more interested in appearances but also pragmatic: the bills always paid on time.
    He needs to come back so I can find and keep a job. But on different terms. he needs to lighten up and not be so tough on the other members. he needs to have a more democratic approach, instead of a macho “my way or the highway” approach.

    #84454
    jock
    Participant

    Expect too Much Eric
    This guy would like to see Tiny Buddha Forum more lively.
    He is too easily disappointed.

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