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    John
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    We all have a ‘type’ of person that we’re attracted to. In that sense, I don’t think I’m different than anyone else.

    What I’m struggling with is the type of women that I’m usually attracted to in terms of physical appearance and sexual energy tend to be unstable, not very mature, and sometimes just downright mean and nasty. I’ve also gone out with women who fall outside this ‘type’, but while they’re nice, genuine, sweet, caring, and compassionate, there’s a spark or energy that seems to be missing.

    I recognize that I’m probably overgeneralizing, being superficial, and it’s my desires that are causing my suffering, nevertheless, it’s become a mental preoccupation.

    Recently, I came a blog post on Miyamoto Musashi’s Dokkodo, which is 21 precepts towards living a more wholesome Dharmic life:

    http://www.ridingthetiger.org/2013/06/26/the-dokkodo/

    Two of these precepts (Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love AND In all things, have no preferences) probably speak to the struggle I’m facing, but I’m no monk and find it difficult to apply these precepts in real life.

    Has anyone else struggled with this kind of issue? Do you have any advice or guidance?

    • This topic was modified 10 years, 9 months ago by John.
    #38214
    Matt
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    John,

    That is a pretty common struggle for many people! Wishing to balance a lay life of family with monastic principles is tough. When I read your words a few things came to heart.

    Reality is comprised of layers, and your description of your attraction to women is a great example. Said curtly, it sounds like a superficial view, which is pretty normal. When looking out at reality, the fiery chaos and sparkle of a woman catches our senses and provides great pleasure. We are overwhelmed by their potency, and feel a gravity that seems impossible to avoid. This feeds a cycle of nourishment that always leaves us feeling unfulfilled, yet yearning for more.

    The practice that resolves a superficial view is deep looking into selflessness and impermanence. When we begin to let go of the “ooh, pretty sparkly pop art” view of women, we can begin to look at the mature, powerful goddess inside of each woman. Its a little rude to do this with strangers, so we can practice with objects. For instance, we may realize we have a superficial relationship to our chair. So we look deeply. What is really there? What conditions came together that allows that chair to be there for us to sit on?

    Thousands of strands of cotton fiber, for instance, means that cotton plants took energy from the sun, co2 from the air and water and grew and grew, so the cotton plant is there with you, the sun is there, the water is there. The farmer who planted and harvested to cotton is there. The grandparents of the farmer is there. The designer or engineer whose art became the chair is there. The teacher of the designer is there. There is a whole symphony of natural interactions that came together just so, and the result is the thing you sit on. As we sit in this view, a natural appreciation arises for the form we call a chair. We realize the chair is really the crest of a wave of conditions, and in sitting in it, we are participating in that continuity. This connection to the chair is significantly more potent than the sensual pleasures involved in seeing a particularly sexy design that maybe is missing a leg or two.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #38223
    John
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    That was brilliant! Thank you.

    It requires so much more effort to look and appreciate beyond the superficial. My mind is not wired that way, but I recognize that’s simply an old habit and old way of looking at things. I will definitely endeavour to take the time and look beyond the surface and appreciate the inner beauty of all things and people.

    #38236
    Pat Merritt
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    I believe it is so sad that our society is so driven by looks. Even very beautiful people never seem happy with the assets they have, and are always look for more, because there is always someone else with more beauty, charisma and charm.
    We need to be okay being who we are! Big challenge. It is amazing to me how much I care about what people think and say about me, despite the fact that I work very hard at leading a spiritual life.
    The things that make us unhappy in life – and there are many – we cannot control.
    I have been dealing with changes in my mind, body and spirit that come with age. In my day, I have to say now (didn’t think it then) I was a pretty attractive woman. It was quite common to be acknowledge by other men for my looks in my younger days.
    Now, I am no longer “flirted” with – only once by a 90 year old man who said he liked my scarf!
    I find myself wanting to change my appearance to look younger. The Aging process is not appealing to me. But like many things in my life – I have no choice.
    That being said – physical attraction is important in relationship and I think it is an attribute that should be entertained. The more things we can find in people that we like the greater the chance the relationship will be a satisfying one. So maybe you will find someone who is beautiful both inside and outside. Good luck.
    Pat

    #38244
    Bob
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    Who we are as a person and what interests we cultivate, have a major influence on who we attract. If you not happy with the results perhaps you might want to begin by making a few changes for yourself. Consider where you go, what hang-outs do you like and if you have any hobbies or interests that involve other people. It is truly amazing how becoming absorbed in outside interest will draw others toward you.

    This may sound a bit crude: ‘The hunt is always worth more than the kill.’ ‘If you do not like what is in your catch basket or what is on your hook, try another pond or river.’

    Be careful, be wise and keep your heart pure.

    #38300
    John
    Participant

    Thanks Bob.

    I’m still very much getting to know myself and feel very much in flux between my old self and new. Perhaps that’s the reason why nothing is solidifying. And I like your quote about trying another pond or river. Oh jeez, I hope I don’t have to move to another city. 😛

    #38302
    Matt
    Participant

    John,

    Deep looking is not a matter of wired or not wired. Our view of reality is like an instrument, and once the basic chords are ‘wired’ or learned, we can let go and be creative. Said differently, it requires effort at first, but then it becomes far more simple. The superficial view only seems more natural because you’ve been doing it longer. It actually requires much more effort to maintain, because our mind moves into hunter mode, rather than curious mode.

    With warmth,
    Matt

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