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  • #89949
    who
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    Are we born with a purpose in life, or do we create our own as we live life?

    To anyone who reads this. For some time now I have always wonder about this question.
    The reason why I posted this, is because I don’t know..

    At times I feel like we are born with a purpose, but then there are people, who I feel create their own purpose in life.
    Throughout time, experience, perception, practice.
    If we are born with a purpose, does that mean that no matter what the path is it’s already chosen for us?
    Or do we live our lives and create a purpose for ourselves to have meaning?
    I would really like to see your replies to this.
    Thank You!

    • This topic was modified 6 years, 9 months ago by who.
    #89952
    jock
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    great question who! I thought I was the only one who started such meaning of life threads as these. πŸ™‚
    And I don’t think these questions are meant to be answered with a simple “yes” or “no”.
    OK here goes. I’ll give it a shot.
    The greater our self-awareness, the more likely we are to know what our inner purpose is. Eckhart Tolle talks about an exterior purpose and an interior purpose. The exterior purpose is like, what job should I do. who should I marry? The interior purpose is our spiritual path. Are we ethical, honest, authentic in our life? Are we remaining true to ourselves, despite unpopularity? Do we have lust and greed under some control? Similar to Buddhist and Christian values.
    I think I’ve spent too much time focussed on my exterior purpose rather than my interior purpose. I’ve been obsessed “if I just found the right career, my niche”, when in reality no 1 career alone suits me. If I just focussed on being a better, more ethical person with more self-discipline and self-respect, I think the outer purpose would fall into place. Tolle says this is what happens anyway. I think he’s right. I believe so anyway.

    #89966
    anita
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    Dear who:

    Of course I jump in with an answer= this is my purpose, to answer every single question asked on tiny buddha! No, really, it seems that way…

    My answer: we are born alive with the purpose of living until we die. Just like any plant and animal.

    anita

    P.S. This is all I got.

    #89980
    who
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    Much appreciation! to:Jack & Anita

    I really love your words for thought!
    I agree on both comments, first with Jack because the inner self is who we really are before we wur here, meaning our subconscious. The mirror has reflected back on me. I’ve been so vein about looks, money, jobs, people pleasing etc. To the point where my life is out of control. Instead I should work on my inner self, meaning the spiritual path.

    To Jack question”
    Are we like (Yen and Yang) meaning the inner self is Good and the outer self is Bad?
    Inner as in like you said, spiritual and how we act, treat others, and choices that we make.
    Outer as in a false sense of purpose, being side tracked by life, material things and career, things that don’t last, temporary.

    Is that why us as humans beings battle ourselves so much, because we have 2 different things going on at the same time?
    Outer and inner self.
    Or can they both co-exist without issues?
    I don’tknow?

    #89982
    who
    Participant

    To: Anita
    I love the simplicity of your words, very impelling!
    Meaning to live is to die! that is the purpose.
    For me it’s a sweet bitter victory. Although true, hard to swallow. I mean as people our life span isn’t long. with all the pressures of life, plus dealing with ourselves, then we die. (Purpose)
    Wow I guess I thought that there be more to this, but who am I.
    Thanks! Guess I should be grateful that I’m even here to experience life for what it is.

    #89986
    jock
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    Are we like (Yen and Yang) meaning the inner self is Good and the outer self is Bad?

    No. The outer self is our superficial self, success and failure, achievement and lack of achievement.
    I think the inner self is more important.

    #89989
    who
    Participant

    Thanks! for shedding light on that Jack.

    #90006
    anita
    Participant

    Dear who:

    Correction: I say our purpose is to live, not to die. To live until we die because to die we must. It is the way of nature. And nothing can change that. It is reality and reality doesn’t compromise with itself, makes no room for exceptions on this one.

    But the purpose is to live. Since you brought back the POEM, I can extend my answer: for a HUMAN (with our more elaborate brain) our purpose is to SEE more and more of WHAT IS, to remove delusions, false beliefs and see the bare minimum of what is in front of us, literally and figuratively. Just the Truth, Mam, or Sir!

    anita

    #90027
    who
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    Thank You! Anita
    Wow nice poem, that was deep. It seems like I have some things to reflect on.
    This might sound stupid, but have you ever wondered if the laws of nature always been like this?
    Meaning to live and die..

    Question everything thing in life has a constant motion, or rhythm cycle. Day in and year out. So does that mean, If motion was to just stop, life wouldn’t exist anymore? I guess what I’m asking is does Life need motion in order to be? (universe, planets, animals, people)

    And what if the everyday patterns somehow change, meaning start a new pattern, would we as humans adapt, evolve or just die?
    Is the want to live forever just that an illusion? And if so then why do us as humans try so hard to fight against what is natural???
    Last question, (WHAT IS A SOUL)?…
    I mean I know the definition of a soul. But what is a soul? People speak about it as if it’s normal, like they understand it. You know the this is a temporary shell we live in, and our soul will continue blah blah blah. I don’t understand. Is it life or is it death?

    Thanks! to any who might be able to give me some feed back.

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 9 months ago by who.
    #90030
    anita
    Participant

    Dear who:

    My answers: Yes, life is a constant motion, atoms move, even in a rock, only slowly. Emotions are energy in motion. If motion was to just stop then life would not exist, correct, says I. (This is simple physics) Which makes me think, you, who, you too need to be in constant motion, not meaning you should not rest, definitely rest, but well, think about it… later on that.

    A new pattern, like what? Changes? Sometimes we need to adapt to changes, sometimes we need to un-adapt, to unlearn changes we have made. For example, you were born innocent and into the truth, naturally. Then you adapted to life by lying- need to undo that adaptation where lying hurts YOU.

    Living forever is just an illusion. I mean, part of me, some energy form may go on, probably will because nothing appears or disappears, scientifically. But my thoughts, my memory, my traits, my likes, dislikes, anything I learned, all these disappear, only my basic energy goes on, I suppose and every molecule of my body, every atom keeps going as part of something else.

    Why do we try so hard to fight against what is so natural? Because we are the ONLY animals who KNOW that we will die. We are the only animals that have the concept of future. If dogs or cows or frogs also knew they were going to die and they had the concept of future, that is they would know that they will die in the future, they wouldn’t like it either. Dogs wouldn’t be wagging their tails as often.

    A soul- some kind of energy, not yet discovered by science- may be a soul but it is what I was born with, nothing that carries my thoughts, my ideas, who I am now… only what I was born with, a type of energy. No ghosts.

    Our body is a shell in the sense that we will die, decompose or have ourselves cremated (I choose the latter). Our brain, our connections, understandings, feelings, all these will be no more. We do die. Some sort of energy keeps going but I wouldn’t make too much of that. That form of energy is not me with a halo around my head. It is something that wouldn’t make good movies, no halos.

    Again, what was before I was born is the same as what will be after I die. Life. Strictly nature, death is business as usual.

    anita

    #90034
    who
    Participant

    Ahhh I see, straight forward but real. Much Appreciated Anita!

    #90037
    jock
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    I don’t have a porpoise but I have a pet dog.

    #90046
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Llama Jack:

    Nice to read your pearls of wisdom. Nice to have you here!
    anita

    #90156
    Saiisha
    Participant

    Hello Who,
    Lots of great discussion in here, so I don’t want to derail the conversation, but I just wanted to address your first question: “Are we born with a purpose in life, or do we create our own as we live life?”

    I like what you said: “If we are born with a purpose, does that mean… it’s already chosen for us? Or do we live our lives and create a purpose for ourselves to have meaning?”

    I don’t know either, but this is how I like to look at it – we are born with a purpose, an overarching life purpose – or the inner life purpose as Jack mentioned, that’s the same for everyone, whatever different paths they take on the journey. The different paths we take is where we create the purpose for ourselves to have meaning, to create a vehicle for that journey.

    #90179
    who
    Participant

    Much appreciated Saiisha!

    I like your insight about the different paths and journey that we take, is where and how we create the purpose to have meaning. And how we are all born with a purpose.

    Vehicle for the journey? can you please help me understand that? I know that you are not speaking about a literal vehicle..

    If so, I would really appreciate it.
    THANK YOU! for your replies hope to hear from you soon. peace!

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