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  • #449539
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    When you are ready to talk, I am here. ❤️

    #449547
    anita
    Participant

    I am here, Alessa ❤️

    #449555
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Is there anything you want to say? ❤️

    #449567
    anita
    Participant

    Yes, Alessa:

    I am sorry for referring to you indirectly (not mentioning your name) in negative ways. I should have addressed you directly- that would have been the right thing to do. I wronged you and I sincerely apologize.

    I should have told you directly that I felt invalidated by you when I felt that way instead of keeping it inside and then expressing it in ways that were unfair to you.

    It will never happen again.

    ❤️ Anita

    #449587
    Alessa
    Participant

    y Anita. ❤️

    I just want to get some things off my chest because it feels like I haven’t been heard yet.

    It hurt being ignored. I’m a very consistent person. I don’t ignore people.

    It is difficult for me to connect with people who are hot and cold because it never really feels like they are actually interested in sustaining a friendship and have a foot half way out of the door, ready to slam it shut again. ❤️

    I was shocked by some of the comments in both the initial conflict and the most recent one, but what unsettled me the most in the initial conflict was Anita posting about how happy she was whilst we were suffering.

    It also hurt when I was asked for things to stop and I was ignored. I was politely begging for my feelings to be heard and to matter. No. I don’t matter, is what I felt.

    It hurt to witness the conflict on Yana’s thread. I bore the pain as long as I could.

    It hurts me to see what is happening now. Post apology. I don’t have any energy left.

    I’m my own person. People are free and deserve to be heard. ❤️

    It feels tone deaf to try to tell people what they can and can’t do after how we have been treat. What about our feelings? As long as things are handled respectfully and not in a cruel way, I don’t see the problem. ❤️

    #449588
    Alessa
    Participant

    Copy and pasting cut off the top part which was

    Thanks for the apology Anita. ❤️

    #449611
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    In regard to the apology- you are welcome.

    In regard to getting things off your chest- I am glad you did. You have been heard!

    “It hurt being ignored. I’m a very consistent person. I don’t ignore people. It is difficult for me to connect with people who are hot and cold because it never really feels like they are actually interested in sustaining a friendship and have a foot half way out of the door, ready to slam it shut again.”-

    I will do my best to not ignore you and to be consistently ❤️ .. to not turn cold.

    “…what unsettled me the most in the initial conflict was Anita posting about how happy she was whilst we were suffering.”- actually, I remember that moment you are referring to. I understand why it unsettled you. I am sorry that you were suffering at that time.

    “It also hurt when I was asked for things to stop and I was ignored. I was politely begging for my feelings to be heard and to matter. No. I don’t matter, is what I felt.”- You do matter. And I did stop referring to you (communicating about you without mentioning your name)- first because of Lori’s input, but most recently- because I realize it was wrong.

    “It hurts me to see what is happening now. Post apology. I don’t have any energy left.”- when I post there next, I will do my best to resolve the conflict.

    “It feels tone deaf to try to tell people what they can and can’t do after how we have been treat. What about our feelings? As long as things are handled respectfully and not in a cruel way, I don’t see the problem.”- as long as things are handled respectfully, yes.

    I wanted to communicate with Tee 1-to-1 for the purpose of resolving the conflict with her- not so to silence anyone, but so that she and I could better hear each other. My suggestion was met with a No, and I accept it.

    Please take care of yourself and your boy, Alessa.

    With Care, Anita

    #449702
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Unfortunately, I still don’t feel heard. It is the nature of my role in this conflict. I am a person with feelings too and I hurt, despite my ability to communicate calmly.

    Thank you for trying your best. ❤️

    Why do you think it unsettled me? Because I only said that it did and didn’t explain why.

    Stopping because Lori told you too was very hurtful for me. It felt like my boundaries didn’t matter. It is nice to hear that changed. Thank you for sharing that.

    I understand your desire to talk to Tee directly.

    I imagine that there might be multiple things going on as well?

    Perhaps it might have been hard to keep track of all of the voices and reply during a disagreement? I thought that having a separate conversation would help you to remember to reply to my messages. Or perhaps you felt that replying to some in the middle of a conflict was too unsafe?

    It seemed like you also might have wanted to shut down some of the criticism because you were feeling overwhelmed by it? I can understand that. It has been a long and difficult conflict. ❤️

    #449704
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Alessa:

    “Perhaps it might have been hard to keep track of all of the voices and reply during a disagreement?”- yes! I am starting my reply with this question because it’s the easiest to answer.

    “It seemed like you also might have wanted to shut down some of the criticism because you were feeling overwhelmed by it?”- this is another easy question to answer: Yes!

    “Why do you think it unsettled me? Because I only said that it did and didn’t explain why.” (in regard to what you shared 3 days ago: “what unsettled me the most in the initial conflict was Anita posting about how happy she was whilst we were suffering.”)-

    .. because you needed empathy and understanding and I gave you the opposite?

    #449705
    Alessa
    Participant

    It was actually a ptsd trigger. I appreciate you trying to understand.

    #449706
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    I think I understand what it triggered.. happy while you were suffering.. I am so very sorry, Alessa (tears in my eyes)

    #449707
    Alessa
    Participant

    It is okay. Please don’t worry. I don’t mean to hurt you.

    I just wanted you to know that the things that hurt most are simply just PTSD triggers for me. My old therapist would always ask me whenever I had strong emotions. When was the first time you ever remember feeling this way?

    It helps to unpick the past from the present. It is not your fault that I have PTSD. ❤️

    #449708
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    You are so kind, too kind, too good perhaps..?

    All I know, Alessa, at this point, is that I don’t want you hurt. I care.. Somehow, because of Tee’s major help (for which I am eternally grateful), and then Lucidity’s understanding and kindness today… and your kindness in the message right above.. I am becoming more and more.. simply human. Defenses lowered, aggression dissolved, and all that’s left is..

    Love.

    Love for you, Alessa.. no longer the hot and cold that hurts you, but the steady, reliable kind.

    #449709
    anita
    Participant

    Just in case you are back to this thread (“Safe and Brave”- perfect title) anytime soon- i will be away from the computer for the rest of the day (2:16 pm here).

    With Care, Anita

    #449710
    Alessa
    Participant

    It is just the truth.

    Caring is a good thing. It won’t lead you astray.

    Thank you. ❤️

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