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September 14, 2025 at 9:17 am #449754
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ParticipantDear Dafne,
sorry for the delay… there have been things that I needed to tend to, and wasn’t able to get to you sooner ❤️
How have you been doing, Dafne?
I’d like to explore something you’ve said, which I think is a very important realization:
I also understand that at this stage in life, when a man is older, he may not have prioritized this in the past. He may value it, but may not have practiced it before.
Additionally, many men don’t see the point in marrying if there is no solid intention of having children.
That’s true… you did say, Dafne, that you’re not sure about having children anymore (can’t find where you said it, but I remember you did). And the men you’re interested in (and who are interested in you) are probably closer to middle-aged, who might have been widowed or divorced, i.e. were in a relationship or even multiple relationships before.
If you combine those two conditions together: no desire (or weak desire) for children on your part, and the likely candidate is a middle-aged man with one or more significant previous relationships, possibly with children or stepchildren – I’m afraid there is a lower probability that such a guy would be interested in marriage, i.e. it wouldn’t be his priority.
I guess neither marriage nor having children would be their first priority. They wouldn’t be looking to “build a nest” with you and everything that goes with it. But rather, they would be interested in having a companion, a life partner, i.e. someone to share their life with.
In such a constellation, your priorities (marriage and premarital purity) may be in contradiction with the guy’s priority: having a life companion (which may or may not include getting married. But if it does, it usually involves living together for a period of time before getting married).
So it occurred to me, Dafne, after you made this very astute observation (about the profile of your likely candidate), that perhaps your main goal and his main goal might be very different? And this may make it difficult to actually find a partner, even if there are honest guys out there, who would make a good partner otherwise (just for the record, your ex wasn’t a honest guy, so it’s good that you called it quits).
You know what I mean? That in this constellation, it might be very difficult to find a guy who is willing to accommodate your wish for premarital purity.
Sorry for playing the devil’s advocate here, but I just felt the need to mention this, because it might be a real problem in practice.
There might be other issues too, e.g. that available men may have financial obligations to their children (and even to their ex-wives, such was the case with one of your boyfriends, if I remember well?). And so they might not be able to be the main financial provider in the relationship (something you said you expect from the man), because they may have other obligations and past arrangements to cater to.
In other words, even if they’re an honest man and don’t want to take advantage of you, they may not be able to meet some of the requirements that are very important to you.
Anyway, Dafne, this is what I’m thinking about, and it seems kind of complicated. Please let me know your thoughts and feelings on this? I don’t want this to be a downer, but still, I felt I had to mention it…
Sending you love, dear Dafne. Take care! ❤️
September 22, 2025 at 12:40 am #450055Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita 🤗
How are you? I’m sorry for late reply but
I had some issues with my connection again and we also lost the electricity for a while. It felt like forever…I’m also reflecting now on the last message I received from Tee regarding finding a marriage minded man. She touched some valid points and I’m starting to think that I was too naive thinking that it will be easy or will happen at this age. What shall I change in order for this to be possible?
Please feel free to comment on that and share your thoughts as well.
Big hug dear Anita 🫂 and I’m happy to read your message.
Take care for now ❤️
September 22, 2025 at 4:48 am #450060Dafne
ParticipantDear Tee,
I’m sorry for my late reply as well. My connection was lost again, and I had no other choice but to wait and hope.
That is a thoughtful and delicate situation, and I thank you for raising some valid concerns.
I understand what you’re saying, and I know many men at this stage may not be interested in marriage again. But I prefer to stay hopeful and focus on those who truly value commitment and marriage — because such men do exist, and I would be even more unhappy to just accept someone with different goals and values.
I also feel that if I focus on men who are only looking for free-spirited or easy relationships, I would feel empty. It would feel like skipping an important stage in life — being a wife — especially since they have already experienced that with someone else.
Just to add Tee, the previous man I mentioned was dating and, as far as I know, didn’t have any financial obligations toward his ex wife’s son, but he did want to keep in touch with him, so there were more emotional obligations.
I’m curious though, how do you see a good way forward in this situation? What do you think would be the best approach?
Do you think I should soften my approach a little, or just focus on a specific kind of person — someone who truly wants marriage, not just companionship or a flexible life partner?
I’d love to hear what you think would be the best way forward.
Looking forward to your thoughts.
Take care Tee ❤️
September 22, 2025 at 8:06 am #450061anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
I am sorry you lost connection for so long! Good to read back from you ❤️ and thank you for inviting me into the conversation about men and marriage. I will answer more later this morning. Big hug back to you!
🌿 Anita
September 22, 2025 at 11:51 am #450076anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
“I’m starting to think that I was too naive thinking that it will be easy or will happen at this age. What shall I change in order for this to be possible?”-
I’d say: first, become very clear about your objectives, that is: what is it that you need, want & expect in a relationship.
This way, you can be in the center of your story, you make the rules in regard to your life.
I hope I’m making sense (Am I, Dafne? I spent more than 4 hours straight in front of the computer.. tired 😩)
Not too tired to send you a virtual 🤗.
🌿 Anita
September 22, 2025 at 12:57 pm #450078Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
So happy to read you too ❤️
please don’t worry and go to rest your eyes 🙏I appreciate you replied despite being tired.
Regarding my objectives it is mainly someone who doesn’t just want a free spirit, easy relationship but rather marriage minded. Most men had that chapter behind them but I did not and I would feel empty accepting their conditions.
I won’t write more as I want you to rest 😉
A virtual hug back 🤗💖
September 22, 2025 at 5:46 pm #450089anita
ParticipantThank you, Dafne! I want to reply to you with a fresh, rested brain tomorrow morning.
🤗💖 Anita
September 23, 2025 at 5:21 am #450110anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
As fresh and rested brain as I am going to get today (woke up too early, still dark outside, drinking strong coffee):
In your very first post on tiny buddha (April 18, 2023), you wrote: “I believe in friendships before any physical contact. The problem is that men that I’ve met do not want to be friends first and try to kiss me pretty soon. I always refuse the kiss in the first weeks of meeting and it always ends there…. Also, I know that when dating we should wait with sex but what about a kiss? Sometimes I feel that I am too strict and overthinking. Please help me to figure this out 🙏”
On April 24-25, 2023, you wrote (notice the word trust): “Unfortunately, with every failed relationship, I feel more and more discouraged to meet new men. Also there is a matter of trust…I avoided dating for a very long time. I really lost my trust. So I only kept men who were willing to remain platonic. I’m guessing it was a way of protecting my heart. Then I opened it again and got painfully disappointed again. I really lost my trust. And here I am today with another hurtful experience 💔”
Fast forward to Sept 6, 2025 (here’s “trust” again):”Yes, sometimes it feels like a circle that never ends. Especially nowadays, even when you can trust someone, you still need to be careful. You can’t trust fully, but you can’t not trust at all. Or maybe just wait till you have reasons to trust and not trust blindly. But then there is always someone who will break that trust, and you need to start the process of healing all over again.”-
You want a platonic (no sex) friendship with a marriage-minded man, a friendship that’s long enough for you to get to know him and trust him, long enough to build a deep emotional connection (which is not possible without trust).
In regard to the no-sex requirement, and the need to set boundaries with a man in this regard, I just asked Copilot (AI) for advice. Here’s what it says:
“You (Dafne) might consider spaces where your values are shared upfront…:
* Faith-based communities (churches, study groups, retreats) where abstinence and emotional pacing are respected
* Values-driven dating apps like Christian Mingle, eHarmony, or platforms that allow filtering by relationship intentions
* Online friendship spaces where connection can grow without physical pressure..”
Copilot also suggested “Books or podcasts on slow love, emotional compatibility, or boundary-honoring relationships…
Books- 1. The Art of Loving by Erich Fromm- A philosophical classic that reframes love as a skill to be cultivated—not just a feeling. Fromm explores self-love, romantic love, and the societal forces that distort connection. (Quote: “To have faith requires courage, the ability to take a risk, the readiness even to accept pain and disappointment.”- Fromm links trust to vulnerability—not blind optimism, but a brave openness to the unknown.)
2. The 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman- A practical guide to emotional compatibility. Chapman identifies five ways people express and receive love, helping couples understand each other’s emotional needs. (Quote: “We can choose to love even when we don’t feel it. That’s the foundation of trust in a lasting relationship.”- Chapman emphasizes love as a choice, especially in hard moments. Trust isn’t just built in ease—it’s proven in difficulty.)
3. Set Boundaries, Find Peace by Nedra Glover Tawwab- A compassionate, clear guide to boundary-setting in relationships. Tawwab offers scripts, reflections, and tools for honoring your truth without guilt. (Quote: “Trust is built when boundaries are respected—not just when words are kind.”- This reframes trust as a behavioral pattern, not a feeling. It honors your need for actions that match intentions.)
4. Attached by Amir Levine & Rachel Heller- Explores attachment styles and how they shape emotional compatibility. Especially helpful for understanding why some connections feel safe while others trigger anxiety or avoidance. (Quote: ““When you trust that your partner will be there for you, you can be more independent and explore the world with confidence.”- Trust is the soil where both closeness and autonomy grow.)
🎙️ Podcasts- 1. The Boundaries Podcast with Nedra Glover Tawwab- Real-life examples and practical advice on setting and maintaining healthy boundaries in all types of relationships.
2. Love and Life Toolbox Podcast with Lisa Brookes Kift- Focuses on communication, intimacy, and emotional pacing. Great for those who value friendship-first connection.
3. The Couples Therapist Couch- Explores emotional compatibility, conflict resolution, and the psychology of slow, intentional love.
4. The Therapy Chat Podcast- Gentle, trauma-informed conversations about relational healing, boundaries, and emotional attunement.
5. Psychiatry & Psychotherapy Podcast with Dr. David Puder- Episode: Setting Boundaries in Relationships — A deep dive into emotional boundaries, self-definition, and relational clarity.”
I hope that the above proves helpful to you, Dafne, over time. I’m looking forward to reading your thoughts whenever you’re willing and ready to share 🤗💖
Anita and Copilot
September 23, 2025 at 5:47 am #450111Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m glad you’re better 🤗 I know that feeling too well and it’s not fun.
I alsi feel like I’m just enduring each day, trying to get by.
Thank you for exploring for me different options and places to find that special soul.
You still believe it is possible to find what I’m looking for despite all those setbacks and failed connections with men.
I will explore those podcasts and concepts much closer in the coming days. I’ll get back to you with my thoughts.
Meanwhile please try to relax a bit more 🙏 I know it takes a lot of mental efforts to craft a message and I appreciate you being here with me Anita 💖
Lots of warmth ✨️ and love ❤️
September 23, 2025 at 6:13 am #450112anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
You are welcome! (Still dark here, by the way, almost 6 am)
“You still believe it is possible to find what I’m looking for despite all those setbacks and failed connections with men.”- yes, I do believe it’s possible for you 😊
I don’t expect you to read all the books on the list or listen to all the podcasts. What will help, I think, is to read a bit here, a bit there, listen to a small part of any of the podcasts, and when something feels meaningful, pause and reflect. Take notes (typing those out into a private record or here in this thread, whichever suits you), pay attention to skills in regard to how to effectively communicate and set boundaries with men, and also in regard to the issue of Trust.
This kind of contemplating, reflecting.. learning (which includes putting ideas into practice in real-life)- I believe- will significantly increase the possibility that you will find what you are looking for.
I am sad to read this: “I also feel like I’m just enduring each day, trying to get by.”- you are welcome to share more about this.. if you want to.
✨️ and ❤️, Anita
September 23, 2025 at 10:53 am #450126Tee
ParticipantDear Dafne,
I’m sorry your internet connection got disrupted for a long time. I’m happy to hear from you again! ❤️
I understand what you’re saying, and I know many men at this stage may not be interested in marriage again. But I prefer to stay hopeful and focus on those who truly value commitment and marriage — because such men do exist, and I would be even more unhappy to just accept someone with different goals and values.
I also feel that if I focus on men who are only looking for free-spirited or easy relationships, I would feel empty. It would feel like skipping an important stage in life — being a wife — especially since they have already experienced that with someone else.
I hear you, Dafne, and it’s perfectly okay to want someone who wants to get married. I completely understand your desire to get married and to experience a deep, committed relationship with someone you love and trust.
Just to add Tee, the previous man I mentioned was dating and, as far as I know, didn’t have any financial obligations toward his ex wife’s son, but he did want to keep in touch with him, so there were more emotional obligations.
Yes, and you said back then that him talking about his stepson made you feel somewhat upset and emotionally burdened. I suggested that this reaction might have been caused by your own unmet emotional needs, where you felt a little jealous of his stepson, as if he was talking too much about him.
He was also talking about his previous marriage and how he realized he was working too much and neglected his health. And so he was quite keen on keeping fit and was talking about that. All that seemed to have disturbed you, and you told him you don’t want to talk about the past but focus on the future, if I remember well.
It seemed to me that you reacted overly sensitive, and that there weren’t really red flags in what he was sharing. And I suspected that it might have to do with your own past wounds, i.e. unmet emotional needs.
You also mentioned that it hurt you that he was so caring about his stepson, which was in contrast with how your own father treated you. So there was also a certain sadness and hurt that got triggered in you, and you had a hard time coping with it.
In short, it seems that his legitimate emotional obligations and feelings towards his stepson caused quite a bit of a stirring in you. And my assessment was that it wasn’t a completely balanced reaction, and that you would need to work on yourself, so you wouldn’t be so sensitive in the future.
I believe that you would still need to work on those things, i.e. on your own healing, because otherwise chances are that you reject a potentially good candidate, even someone who is marriage minded and trustworthy.
So this would be my gentle invitation to you, Dafne: to start working on those childhood issues, so you can be more emotionally resilient, and more capable to recognize and keep a good, honest man.
Otherwise, Anita and Copilot gave you really good tips on where to look for men with similar values, as well as what books you could read.
I would also recommend therapy, if you can afford it, because it would be crucial not only for finding a good, honest partner, but also for you and your happiness – independent of any man.
I believe the best scenario would be to find a measure of emotional healing first, which would then give you a better chance of meeting a good, honest and trustworthy man. Because your “dating radar” would work properly and you could better recognize good guys. And you wouldn’t be so suspicious of those who are actually trustworthy.
I know it’s not necessarily something you want to hear, because you’re really focused on meeting a man. But this is my honest opinion, and what I believe would be the best for you.
I hope you do find what you’re looking for, Dafne. I wish you all the happiness in the world. And I hope you can start working on it, one step at a time, little by little, being more resilient, more self-confident and more self-loving every single day ❤️
September 24, 2025 at 11:13 am #450162anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
I hope that your internet connection is good!
Thinking about you, hoping that you are okay…?
(I will soon be away from the computer for the rest of the day)
🤍🌿 Anita
September 24, 2025 at 12:00 pm #450166Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your care ❤️ my internet is spotty but I can still send the message. I can’t open videos and see the podcasts though.
Hope you rested a little bit…
To be honest the things I’ve shared on this forum are just the tip of the ice berg. I am fearful to add more information and hope I will be ok one day 🙏
Right now I’m dealing with some something really devastating emotionally and affecting further my health. I don’t know what to do but I’ll try with the little energy I have left.
I am feelimg quite shuttered at the moment promise to get back to you soon my dear Anita. Please take care of yourself and talk to you soon. I hope to be able to reply to this great research you’ve done regarding boundaries and meeting good men.
I’ll be back soon…
Big big hug Anita and lots of love 🫂💖
September 24, 2025 at 12:21 pm #450168Dafne
ParticipantThank you Tee for another great insightful message 💖
I’m not sure if you red my last message to Anita but I have to step back for a little while as some additional issues emerged and need to find strenght now to deal with all of that. I feel like drowning and can’t express it here as it could compromise my safety.
My internet is spotty but it looks like I manage to send the messages. I hope to be able to reply to your message very soon 🙏
Take care Tee and lots of love 🤗
September 24, 2025 at 12:57 pm #450169Tee
ParticipantDear Dafne,
Right now I’m dealing with some something really devastating emotionally and affecting further my health. I don’t know what to do but I’ll try with the little energy I have left.
I feel like drowning and can’t express it here as it could compromise my safety.
Oh my goodness, Dafne, I do hope you’ll be okay! What you’ve just shared sounds pretty concerning 🙁 I’m worried about you…
Are you physically safe at least? Please do everything to protect yourself – you definitely deserve it! Don’t let anyone manipulate you into something that would harm you or put you in a very bad situation, affecting your physical or emotional well-being. And please let us know how you’re doing and what’s going on…
I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. Please take care of yourself, Dafne! 🙏 Hope to talk to you soon! 💖
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