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March 27, 2025 at 9:11 am #444420
anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Of course, it’s okay to share the story you read to your son! I looked it up, and it seems to be The Invisible String, a children’s book by Patrice Karst, originally published in 2000. The author created the concept of the “invisible string” to comfort her son, who struggled with separation anxiety when she dropped him off at preschool. What a beautiful way to address the universal need for connection!
Speaking of children’s books, I noticed you mentioned feeling overstimulated yesterday. There’s a lovely book called Too Much!: An Overwhelming Day by Jolene Gutiérrez, a children’s picture book (with notes for caregivers) that encourages self-soothing and regaining calm during moments of overstimulation. The line, “Too loud! Too bright! Too itchy! Too tight!” resonates so deeply. I wonder if it might bring you comfort—like a gift from “Alessa the caregiver” to “Alessa the little girl.”
“As you start to explore I’ll be just over here, even at night I’m quietly near. You are never alone.”—This line from your story speaks to the nurturing caregiver within each of us. It’s something both you and I, as adults, can whisper to the little girl inside us who might still need to hear it.
Thank you so much for sharing such a beautiful and meaningful story, Alessa.
“My perspective is slightly different on helping. I believe the little things matter. Sure, we can’t fix each other’s problems, but we can show each other that we care. I feel like that is really all that is needed. I love this caring little community that everyone has built here! ❤️”—Your words capture something so profound. They remind me that even the simplest acts—like a kind word, a listening ear, or a moment of presence—can make someone feel less alone.
Thank you for this heartfelt reminder that caring doesn’t have to be complicated to be meaningful. This space is so much richer and more comforting because of voices like yours. ❤️
anita
March 27, 2025 at 10:04 am #444421anita
ParticipantDear Jana:
I want to follow up on my recent message and say that if sharing feels right to you, I would truly value reading your thoughts. Whatever you feel comfortable sharing is deeply appreciated. Most importantly, I hope you feel safe and supported here—both in this thread and throughout the forums.
I value how you reflect on your own way of thinking and learning—it’s thoughtful and insightful. I admire your self-awareness in recognizing what works best for you, such as focusing on practical, real-life situations rather than abstract concepts. I also appreciate the balance you found in giving yourself the freedom to take breaks and return with a refreshed mind—it’s a thoughtful way to care for yourself while still engaging meaningfully with others.
Also, thank you for the care and openness you have shown in distinguishing your preferences from the freedom of others to express themselves in their own way. It’s such a kind and inclusive perspective, and it adds so much to the welcoming space you help create for meaningful conversations.
You wrote, “My mother misunderstands compassion. She often thinks that I ‘pity’ her when I express something nice or want to help her (she cannot walk well) and it makes her upset. That’s why I keep my compassion mainly in my heart, too.”- It’s very sad how something as inherently positive as compassion can be misunderstood to be something negative. I experienced a similar dynamic with my mother. She often misinterpreted my compassion for her, seeing it as something entirely opposite—aggression toward her—and, in turn, responded with her own aggression against me.
As a result, I doubted my emotions, including empathy. I came to see that it was a harmful feeling that had hurt my mother. Later in life, whenever I felt empathy for someone, I couldn’t shake the fear that my empathy might actually be causing them pain.
Thank you so much for your kind words, Jana. I feel grateful for the thoughtful connection we’ve built here.
anita
March 27, 2025 at 11:10 am #444423anita
ParticipantI am coming to understand that my mother perceived my empathy and sincere efforts to help her as something that exposed her vulnerabilities, making her feel weak. Rather than feeling supported, she felt threatened—interpreting my care as shining a light on emotions she preferred to keep hidden, such as her feelings of inadequacy. This triggered a defensive reaction, and she responded with aggression as a way to protect herself.
At the same time, when I expressed empathy, she seemed to experience it as a shift in power—placing me in a position of emotional strength and leaving her feeling weak in comparison. For someone struggling with feelings of inadequacy, control can become a way to cope, masking or managing those insecurities.
By exerting authority over situations or people, they create an illusion of competence or strength.
For her, any sign of strength on my part—whether it was showing empathy or believing I had the ability to help her—felt unsettling, prompting her to react aggressively in an effort to reassert control.
anita
March 27, 2025 at 2:06 pm #444427anita
ParticipantTyping on my phone, feeling better after eating some peanuts. Was feeling very sad a little earlier sad for my mother. I wonder (and it’s a scary thought,), how much of what we consider evil, and which is evil in objective terms, how much of it. from the offenders perspective, is nothing more than defending oneself against pain, that and nothing more.
I am inviting my sadness, my pain- to be, to not be pushed down, minimized, but to have the space to breathe. For the sadness is not my enemy, not if I don’t go against it and take it’s oxygen away.
Redirect suppression to expression, self fragmentation to self integration, self aggression, really to acceptance, expansion.
Anita
March 27, 2025 at 2:49 pm #444428Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
*trigger warning*
Regarding your question about evil. I read that evil is a lack of empathy. Apparently, someone who presided over charging people with war crimes after the holocaust said this.
I don’t think that hurting people is about defending oneself. There is a very clear difference between defensive aggression and someone who is actively trying to hurt another person.
There is a joy that is taken in harming others… someone who is being defensive takes no joy in it.
I feel like people use flimsy excuses for these types of behaviours. They are looking for opportunities to hurt others and re-enacting their trauma by role-playing the aggressor. The sad truth is it is easy to do, because it requires nothing in the way of self control and there has been cultural acceptance of children being possessions and child abuse being legal worldwide for a long time.
Additionally, people who hurt others typically have a combination of severe issues including developmental disorders, head injuries, brain damage, mental health issues, addiction and childhood trauma.
My phone battery is dying. I will have to reply properly tomorrow. ❤️
March 27, 2025 at 5:08 pm #444430anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for caring to be here for me at a time when I need help, it means a lot to me. ❤️
I am looking forward to your next reply and will process all tomorrow morning.
anita
March 28, 2025 at 4:28 am #444436Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your kind words! ❤️
It is hard to talk about these things sometimes. But I do care and I am here for you. I just needed some time to decompress because our trauma is so similar, I get ptsd triggers sometimes. I wanted to be fully present when writing to you so I can show up for you in a thoughtful way.
I’m glad that eating helped you to feel a little better when things are difficult at the moment.
Please let me know if anything is ever not helpful.
Thank you for the book recommendation! I will definitely get it. I didn’t know the background for why the book was made. That is a beautiful reason, thank you for sharing it. 😊
You have so much empathy for people. I think that is a beautiful thing.
I’m sorry to say that I don’t feel sad for your mother. I care that you are suffering, worrying about her and that you suffered at her hands and she falsely blamed you for it. ❤️
March 28, 2025 at 10:38 am #444458anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Your post above is truly perfect. You showed up for me in the most thoughtful and meaningful way, and I’m in awe of you at this moment.
* Taking a moment to share my thoughts after writing the above:
I worry that other members might feel offended because I didn’t tell them their posts were perfect.
When I wrote “at this moment,” did I inadvertently imply that I’m not in awe of her at other times?
These are the kinds of thoughts that have tortured me repeatedly. They stem from my mother’s relentless scrutiny—she would find fault in anything I said, accusing me of ill intent, regardless of how well-meaning my words were. She’d point out where I went wrong, where I slighted her, or where she felt I subtly tried to insult her.
Back to my opening two sentences: they were genuine, no ill intent. Nothing to fix.
Thank you so much, Alessa, for caring for me and showing up with such thoughtfulness and empathy. It means a lot to me. I truly appreciate the effort you put into being present, especially when discussing something as sensitive as trauma. Please know that I don’t want to trigger your PTSD in any way, and I’ll be mindful of that as I share more about how our experiences are similar.
It means a lot to me that you care about how I feel and want to support me in the best way possible. I promise to let you know if something isn’t helpful, and I also want you to know that I’m here for you too. If there’s ever anything I can do to support you, please don’t hesitate to let me know.
* After reflecting further, I realized this post was becoming quite long, so I’ll wrap it up here and continue in a separate post. ❤️
anita
March 28, 2025 at 11:55 am #444459anita
ParticipantDear Alessa and everyone reading this:
* trigger warning *
Alessa: “our trauma is so similar”- Our trauma is indeed so similar—it’s about a mother betraying the trust of her little girl in deeply painful ways. Ways that cut to the heart and inflict wounds that linger in the depths of the soul.
I want to respond to your yesterday’s post, Alessa: “Regarding your question about evil. I read that evil is a lack of empathy… I don’t think that hurting people is about defending oneself. There is a very clear difference between defensive aggression and someone who is actively trying to hurt another person. There is a joy that is taken in harming others… someone who is being defensive takes no joy in it.”- (1) I appreciate your firm tone here—it was exactly what I needed. In the posts earlier, I found myself going soft, soft for my mother. Your firmness helped balance that softness, which could have otherwise pulled me back into the depths of my trauma,
(2) I looked up the terms “defensive aggression” and “offensive aggression” (often just called “aggression”). Here is what I am learning this morning: Defensive aggression occurs when someone feels threatened and reacts to protect themselves, like a shield. It’s driven by fear and is typically reactive, arising from perceived threats or a need for self-defense.
Offensive aggression, on the other hand, is deliberate and intended to harm, like a weapon. It stems from a desire to dominate or hurt, such as insulting someone to make them feel bad.
The key difference is that defensive aggression reacts to fear, while offensive aggression is calculated and hostile. Offensive Aggression by a parent leaves deeper emotional scars on a child, and fosters more distrust in a child than defensive aggression, as the child perceives these actions as deliberate.
Examples of Offensive Aggression: Insults- “You’re useless—you’ll never amount to anything in life.”, Humiliation- “I can’t believe you’re so stupid. You embarrass me in front of everyone.”, Threats- “If you don’t do as I say, I’ll make your life miserable.”, Manipulation- “After everything I’ve done for you, this is how you repay me? You’re selfish.”, Blame- “It’s your fault this family is falling apart. You ruin everything.”
Examples of Defensive Aggression: Deflecting Responsibility- “Why are you always blaming me? I never did anything wrong!”, Overreacting to Criticism- “You have no idea how hard my life is—how dare you judge me!”, Physical Reaction- Slamming a door or raising a hand in frustration when feeling cornered, Defensive Statements- “You always make me out to be the bad guy—I’m just trying my best!”, Dismissive Behavior- Ignoring the child’s emotions by saying, “Oh, stop it! You’re overreacting again.”
Offensive Aggression is direct and intentional harm, aimed at degrading, intimidating, or controlling the child.
Defensive Aggression stems from feeling threatened or cornered. While it may hurt less because it’s not maliciously intended, it can still make a child feel unsafe and uncertain about a mother’s emotional stability.
I don’t remember my mother being defensively aggressive although she may have been. What I do remember is her being offensively aggressive. I clearly remember is her being (I am typing as I think), I remember her being strong and dominant.. with me. Weak and submissive with others, but strong and dominant with me (I am thinking about you, Alessa, hoping this .. hoping you are not reading this if it’s triggering. Please feel free to not read).
I think that this is occurring to me for the first time in my life, that our relationship was special after all, in a way. With me, she felt Strong and Dominant and that felt good to her, so different from the Weak and Submissive experience otherwise.
I accommodated her. I knew what she needed although I couldn’t articulate it, not even to myself.
With me, she felt powerful, at least during the times she hurt me and could see that she did. I can almost remember this: submitting to her because she needed it. I LOVED her so much! I would have done anything for her! I’d climb the highest mountain for her, but when what she needed was to see me humiliated, trapped in a hole, then yes, this is what I’d do.
Standing up for myself, being strong, that would have taken away her way to be strong, to feel strong, that is, to feel powerful.
So, yes, what I remember most is her taking advantage of this opportunity to feel powerful in relation to me. She said to me: “You are one big zero”- that made her feel like a 100.
Strange thing is (and I figure I am sounding crazy)- I don’t regret making her feel powerful. I know it was a very good feeling for her. I am happy that she felt good in those moments. All I ever wanted was for her to feel good.
I don’t regret that it felt good for her.
I just dived into crazy land, didn’t I.
When love is misused and abused, Crazy is the consequence.
I LOVED her so much. I tried not to, for the longest time- placing Anger in between me and my love for her.
I cannot deny that love, Love for her.
She needed me to be “a big zero” and I accommodated.
Looking into my soul this Friday almost-noon: there’s that love in it, dominant love, would-do-anything love.
I feel in-touch with myself more than ever right now. I understand more than ever. I don’t know what I will be typing next. No planning, no agenda.
I was a very loving little girl after all, not at all the selfish, evil girl she said I was.
Oh, I was a good girl after all. I didn’t know!
Back to your yesterday’s post, Alessa: “I feel like people use flimsy excuses for these types of behaviours. They are looking for opportunities to hurt others and re-enacting their trauma by role-playing the aggressor. The sad truth is it is easy to do, because it requires nothing in the way of self control and there has been cultural acceptance of children being possessions and child abuse being legal worldwide for a long time.”- Perfectly said.
anita the possession. An item to be possessed. No wonder I felt claustrophobic being trapped in a 2-dimensional trap, that of being an item.
You ended your today’s post with: “I’m sorry to say that I don’t feel sad for your mother. I care that you are suffering, worrying about her and that you suffered at her hands and she falsely blamed you for it. ❤️”- someone taking my side? Unheard of! Now heard, lol.
(I just got scared that you will somehow get offended, Alessa, by my comment “Now heard, lol”. I hear her saying: what do you mean by “lol” why, you- anita- are a terrible person by lol-ing me, something like that).
It’s not yet Friday noon time yet, but it feels like way later.
There was always criticism coming from her, always the “You are BAD anita” message. A message that made her feel good, so she kept repeating it.
Connecting this to the news I heard a few days ago, that at 85, she is severely hunched over, can’t walk straight, won’t let people help her (because it makes her feel weak to be helped)- I don’t have any bad wishes for her, don’t have the desire that she hurts. Have the desire- as always- that she’d feel good. There were moments when she loved me, or cared for me, like taking a few buses so to get me my favorite marzipan cake. Although I don’t know if it was an act of love, or an investment in keeping her Feeling- Powerful- Over possessed item (anita) invested in the dynamic.
I remember that cake as if it was yesterday.
anita
March 29, 2025 at 12:09 pm #444487anita
ParticipantIt was a marzipan cake. I thought marzipan was magic at the time, the consistency, the texture, the perfect sweetness.
There was no sweetness in the relationship with her, none that I experienced, not that I remember. There was sweetness in the cake though. I still have a huge sweet tooth, only I satisfy it with a combination of stevia and monk fruit sugar, natural and non caloric sources of sweetness.
How would have non sugar sweetness felt like, if it given to me by my mother?
Something I’d never know. Not because there was no emotional sweetness coming from her, but because there was so much bitterness, I couldn’t taste- from one point on- anything but bitterness coming from her. It may be like being bitten by someone so many times that when they kiss you, it feels like another bite.
If I ate marzipan cake and it would be bitter way too often, you don’t want to eat it anymore. it might have some sweet spots, but the bitter is overwhelming. Would one knowingly eat rat poison because parts of it are sweet?
anita
March 29, 2025 at 3:44 pm #444490Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Please don’t worry, you don’t need to change anything for me. I’m honestly okay. I know that you are here to support me as well and I really appreciate that! 😊
I don’t think it’s crazy at all. From my perspective, I have thought I hope that my pain is worth it, because the alternative is that it is that it is senseless…
I like lol. I have a funny story about lol. My aunt didn’t know what it meant and thought it meant lots of love. She wrote it at the end of all of her messages. A lot of them came across as rather inappropriate. 😂
I’m glad you feel heard and that the tone in my first message was helpful. I worried it might not be. It was just the ptsd trigger.
Yes, the bond a child has for their parent is special. It is one of the hardest things I ever had to do, walk away from my mother because of the abuse when I loved her. It is an unconditional kind of love, but it does not mean that unconditional suffering should go hand in hand with that.
It doesn’t hurt anymore. However, there is a longing that doesn’t go away for that sweetness I never truly experienced. As you put it so well. A hole that will never be filled unless I do for myself.
March 29, 2025 at 3:48 pm #444491Alessa
ParticipantOh and I wanted to add. Your mother was wrong. It is a shame that she didn’t see you for the sweet and special little girl/ woman you are.
I’m happy that you are discovering the truth of your loving nature! ❤️
March 30, 2025 at 11:44 am #444497anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for your kind and uplifting message—it means so much to me. 😊
Your aunt’s misunderstanding of “lol” gave me quite a chuckle! That story is both hilarious and endearing, and I can only imagine the unintended impact of her heartfelt messages. 😂
I’m deeply moved by your reflections on the bond between a child and parent, and the courage it took for you to walk away from an abusive relationship with someone you loved unconditionally. You captured such an important truth: while that love can be pure, it should never mean enduring unconditional suffering. Your strength in choosing yourself while still honoring that love is inspiring.
I understand what you mean about longing for sweetness you never truly experienced. That lingering ache—the “hole” you described—speaks so deeply to me. Your words remind me that filling that void comes from within, by cultivating self-love and embracing the compassion we are worthy of.
Alessa, your insight and empathy shine so brightly. What you said about my mother touched my heart more than I can say. It is comforting and affirming to read your words, and they mean so much coming from you. Thank you for reminding me of the truth of my loving nature—it’s something I’m still discovering, thanks to your support. ❤️
I am so grateful for the connection we share and the wisdom and kindness you bring to our conversations. You are such a special person, and I truly appreciate you.
anita
March 30, 2025 at 12:39 pm #444499anita
ParticipantYesterday, as I was walking down the hill, beautiful trees to my right and left (I noticed trees are beautiful alive or dead, upright or fallen down, even rotting, they are still beautiful in a thousand unique ways), I noticed that I (she) was not arguing with me, scrutinizing my thoughts, finding fault with my thoughts. I realized that 14 years since I last saw her, 12 years since I last heard her voice, she has been with me throughout all these no-contact years. It was nice not having her within me yesterday.
It is amazing how a foreign entity (her) can be an invader of the most private space, such as one own’s silent thoughts.
This morning, I “heard” her yelling at me when I perceived that what I was doing could be objectionable. It was not a loud yell, but quite muted, yet, it was still a disapproval that I heard.
Chased by disapproval, persecuted by relentless criticism.
anita
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