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  • #450269
    silvery blue
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    Hello Tee,

    thank you for your care. ❤️ And don’t worry. I am okay. 🙏 ☺️

    Maybe you would grow fond of Thich Nhat Hanh. The concept of inner child is fundamental to his teachings. He very nicely and skillfully combined modern psychology and Buddhism… and the result is a very beautiful, gentle and compassionate form of Buddhism. ❤️ It speaks to my heart.

    I am more of a “feeling type” than thinker. I am instinct-oriented and my heart doesn’t feel the calling when the words “facts”, “evidence-based”, “theory” are presented in the healing process… I believe we are more complex as human beings. I do believe there are things, which cannot be measured by science, and they have an effect on us and our ability to heal. 

    I believe people differ a lot. Not everyone who had a hard childhood needs automatically healing in adulthood. While one person might develop a trauma because of the experience, the other person doesn’t. People are not that simple, people are not black and white. We are very complex. 😊

    ❤️

    🦋

    #450371
    Tee
    Participant

    Hi Jana,

    glad to have you back and to read that you’re fine! ❤️ Have you managed to recharge your batteries and ground yourself, as you were planning to?

    Maybe I’ll check out Thich Nhat Hahn, I don’t know why I haven’t so far. But I love healing approaches that combine psychology and spirituality, so the idea of the inner child healing combined with compassion and mindfulness of Buddhism does sound appealing ❤️

    I believe people differ a lot. Not everyone who had a hard childhood needs automatically healing in adulthood. While one person might develop a trauma because of the experience, the other person doesn’t.

    Very true. We’re different, and even children from the same family react differently to the same external circumstances, i.e. being raised by the same parents.

    I do believe we all need healing from trauma to a certain extent (some more, some less, due to each person’s sensitivity). However, we don’t need the same type of healing method or therapy. Not everything works for everyone.

    You said you don’t like approaches that are too cognitive, which might be described as “evidence-based”, or fact-based or suchlike. You said you’re more of a feeling person and trust your instincts, so I can imagine you prefer approaches that are more spontaneous, creative, free-style? Free-style dance was a favorite of mine for a while, btw 🙂

    I believe we are more complex as human beings. I do believe there are things, which cannot be measured by science, and they have an effect on us and our ability to heal.

    I myself have never been to a CBT therapy session, rather it was a combination of somatic therapy, humanistic psychology and spirituality. Kind of a mishmash 🙂 I’ve always liked holistic approaches…

    What are your preferred healing methods (besides emerging yourself in Thich Nhat Hanh teachings? 🙂 )?

    #450374
    Tee
    Participant

    * immersing, not emerging 🙂

    #450457
    silvery blue
    Participant

    Hello Tee, ☀️

    Thank you. I need a lot of time alone and in peace. I’m an introvert and I kind of sense energies online too… I live a little outside of civilization, so I have the luxury of peace and quiet at home. 😊

    I agree – my three siblings and I are completely different, both in character and appearance, and we all have the same parents. We also each have a completely different relationship with both of them.

    I was afraid that a psychologist or psychiatrist would give me pills and that would be the end of me. Pills don’t solve the causes of trauma. I know that my social phobia was a traumatic reaction to bullying, especially beatings. I had many very painful and humiliating memories of being beaten up in public and no one helping me. 💔 On the contrary, some children even wished it on me or laughed at me. Our school was unfortunately very sick. There were a lot of neglected children. The boys were very aggressive.

    I started EFT therapy (emotional freedom technique by Gary Craig) after I graduated high school. It’s a lot about working with emotions and sensations in the body that memories trigger. Today, these memories don’t bother me anymore, they don’t evoke anything in me, for me it’s a sign that the worst is over… but given how it was and how long it took, I can’t just erase some of the scars… As you wrote… conditioning…. maybe now it’s about having compassion and care for these scars. ❤️‍🩹 😊

    The healing is actually lifelong. So, I continue… 😊

    Somatic therapy sounds interesting. For a long time I couldn’t get rid of the body trembling – it was my body’s reaction. It kind of went away on its own, only when I really processed the pain in depth around the age of 5, when the bullying started. The healer (EFT coach) helped me with it.

    I know that not everyone should do healing alone. If someone had a really difficult childhood, they shouldn’t work with their memories from childhood and inner child alone, but with a therapist. It doesn’t hurt me anymore because I have processed the worst, but I know very well that going back to the darkest memories is painful and difficult. Someone recently wrote to me, when we were discussing the inner child, that they go into psychosis when they return to childhood. So it’s very important to have someone to help us with this, certainly at least in the beginning, when our condition is still very serious.

    Now, I focus a lot on mindfulness, meditation, and various simple exercises with my inner child. It comforts me and with thorough practice – every day – and allowing myself to be calm, I feel better and more grounded.

    Do you want me to share some of these “exercises” with you in the future? It’s nothing difficult or special. Really. I just came up with my own things that work for me. 😊 But I rather ask if there’s anyone here who might be uncomfortable with the topic of the inner child. ❤️

    Sending 🤗

    🦋

    #450489
    silvery blue
    Participant

    I am sharing another beautiful (and useful) part from the book:

    Beginning Anew is a practice to help resolve conflict or a difficulty when it arises. To begin anew is to look honestly at ourselves, at what we have thought, said, or done that has contributed to the conflict. This can help prevent feelings of hurt from building up and defuse difficult situations. It is a practice of recognition and appreciation of the positive elements within ourselves and the other person.

    First we begin anew for ourselves and then we can begin anew with the other person. We can practice beginning anew with our partner, parents, children, friends, or coworkers. The practice has four stages: “flower watering” (expressing our appreciation), expressing regrets, expressing hurts, and asking for support.

    1. FLOWER WATERING
    We look deeply to see the positive qualities in the other person
    and express our appreciation for them. Share at least three
    positive qualities that you have observed in them and things for
    which you feel grateful. Be as concrete as possible. Sometimes
    we may need to water someone’s flowers for a long time to heal
    the relationship and build trust before we can express what has
    hurt us. This is an opportunity to shine light on the other’s
    strengths and contributions and to encourage the growth of his or
    her positive qualities. Our loved ones and relationships are like
    flowers that need regular watering to stay fresh and alive. If we do
    not water the other person’s flowers, our love or the relationship
    may wilt or die.

    2. SHARING REGRETS
    We may mention any unskillfulness in our actions, speech, or
    thoughts that we have not yet had an opportunity to apologize for.
    When we have recognized how we have contributed to the conflict
    or difficulty, we can apologize right away.

    3. EXPRESSING HURT
    We may share how we felt hurt by another, due to their actions,
    speech, or thoughts. Before expressing a hurt, be aware that most
    of our perceptions are wrong. Often our difficulties and pain
    originate in the past, in early childhood. By looking deeply we can
    see that our pain and hurt come from the seeds of suffering within
    us and not from the other person. You might also ask for a third
    party that you both trust and respect to be present to hold the space.

    4. ASKING FOR SUPPORT
    When we share our difficulties with the other person, we help
    them understand us better. This enables them to offer the kind of
    support that we really need. We may be currently under a lot of
    pressure at work or school. We can ask the other person for their
    understanding and support.

    #450490
    silvery blue
    Participant

    PEACE TREATY
    In Order That We May Live Long and Happily Together, In Order That We May Continually Develop and Deepen Our Love and Understanding, We the Undersigned Vow to Observe and Practice the Following:

    I, the one who is angry, agree to:
    1 Refrain from saying or doing anything that might cause further
    damage or escalate the anger.
    2 Not suppress my anger.
    3 Practice breathing and taking refuge in the island of myself.
    4 Calmly, within twenty-four hours, tell the one who has made me
    angry about my anger and suffering, either verbally or by
    delivering a Peace Note.
    5 Ask for an appointment for later in the week (e.g., Friday
    evening) to discuss this matter more thoroughly, either verbally
    or by Peace Note.
    6 Not say: “I am not angry. It’s okay. I am not suffering. There is
    nothing to be angry about.”
    7 Practice breathing and looking deeply into my daily life—while
    sitting, lying down, standing, and walking—in order to see:
    a the ways I myself have been unskillful at times.
    b how I have hurt the other person because of my own habit
    energy.
    c how the strong seed of anger in me is the primary cause of
    my anger.
    d how the other person’s suffering, which waters the seed of my
    anger, is the secondary cause.
    e how the other person is only seeking relief from his or her
    own suffering.
    f that as long as the other person suffers, I cannot be truly
    happy.
    8 Apologize immediately, without waiting until the Friday evening,
    as soon as I realize my unskillfulness and lack of mindfulness.
    9 Postpone the Friday meeting if I do not feel calm enough to
    meet with the other person.

    I, the one who has made the other angry, agree to:
    1 Respect the other person’s feelings, not ridicule him or her, and
    allow enough time for him or her to calm down.
    2 Not press for an immediate discussion.
    3 Confirm the other person’s request for a meeting, either verbally
    or by note, and assure him or her that I will be there.
    4 Practice breathing and taking refuge in the island of myself to
    see how:
    a I have seeds of unkindness and anger in me, as well as habit
    energy, that can make the other person unhappy.
    b I have mistakenly thought that making the other person suffer
    would relieve my own suffering.
    c By making him or her suffer, I make myself suffer.
    5 Apologize as soon as I realize my unskillfulness and lack of
    mindfulness, without making any attempt to justify myself and
    without waiting until the Friday meeting.

    ❤️

    🦋

    #450498
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Jana:

    Thank you for the quotes 🙏

    “Beginning Anew… is a practice of recognition and appreciation of the positive elements within ourselves and the other person.”- to me, this sentence stands out the most. This is what I need to do more of, every day.

    “We look deeply to see the positive qualities in the other person and express our appreciation for them. Share at least three
    positive qualities that you have observed in them and things for which you feel grateful. Be as concrete as possible….This is an opportunity to shine light on the other’s strengths and contributions and to encourage the growth of his or her positive qualities.”-

    Jana, I observed that 1. You are honest and trustworthy, 2. You are humble, 3. You value and promote calm, peace and respect.

    “EXPRESSING REGRETS- We may mention any unskillfulness in our actions, speech, or thoughts that we have not yet had an opportunity to apologize for.”-

    I was unskillful in my actions, speech and thoughts so many, many.. many, many times in my life, I wouldn’t know where to start. In regard to being unskillful in my thoughts, the most unskillful element has been that once I saw a negative quality in another person (real or imagined negative), I became blind to the person’s positive qualities, and focused on the perceived negative or negatives, leading to a distorted image of the person. This is why the sentence (quote) I started this post with stood out for me.

    In regard to unskillful speech- words I said to people irl, and words I typed out here in the forums- I regret all. I cannot go back in time and unsay things, or resay things, but I can and am holding myself accountable for my speech today and every day. While understanding perfection is impossible for anyone, I am more capable now than ever to speak skillfully.

    I apologize for my unskillful speech in my communication with you, Jana, and I apologize to anyone and everyone who may be reading this in regard to my past unskillful speech.

    “PEACE TREATY… I, the one who is angry, agree to: 1 Refrain from saying or doing anything that might cause further damage or escalate the anger.”- this sentence stands out the most in your 2nd post, Jana.

    🤍🌿 Anita

    #450514
    Tee
    Participant

    Hi Jana,

    good to hear from you! ❤️

    It’s wonderful that you live in a remote place, with plenty of peace and quiet… an ideal environment for finding peace and calm within 😊

    I agree – my three siblings and I are completely different, both in character and appearance, and we all have the same parents. We also each have a completely different relationship with both of them.

    Yeah, I can imagine. Since no child is the same, I think there is a unique dynamic that develops between the parents and each child. And perhaps if the parents have a lot of unresolved issues, maybe they react more negatively to one child than the other. Although I don’t know, that’s something that’s occurred me just now, so it’s just a thought.

    What I do know is that narcissistic parents do treat their children differently, so one becomes a golden child, another a scapegoat. So with narcissistic parents, the parents make an unfair distinction between the children.

    With other parents, I guess it doesn’t happen, but still, one child might perceive that e.g. mom’s behavior was hurtful, while their sibling might say that mom was very loving. I guess that’s both because each child has different sensitivities, so what is triggering for one isn’t a problem for another. And also, the parent might be more patient with one child than the other because of their own unresolved issues, due to which they inadvertently treat one child differently than the other.

    Anyway, these are just my musings. As a single child, I can hardly be called an expert on this 🙂 So I’d love to hear what you have to say about this inter-family dynamic…

    I was afraid that a psychologist or psychiatrist would give me pills and that would be the end of me. Pills don’t solve the causes of trauma. I know that my social phobia was a traumatic reaction to bullying, especially beatings. I had many very painful and humiliating memories of being beaten up in public and no one helping me. 💔 On the contrary, some children even wished it on me or laughed at me. Our school was unfortunately very sick. There were a lot of neglected children. The boys were very aggressive.

    I’m very sorry about this, Jana. This is horrible what happened to you. Specially that there was no one to come to your rescue 🙁

    So you didn’t really have too much support from teachers, I guess? How about your parents, if I may ask? Did they know about the bullying?

    I understand you didn’t want to go to a psychiatrist, because they do tend to prescribe pills. They don’t do much psychotherapy, as far as I know. Psychologist is different, they don’t prescribe medications…

    But it’s wonderful that you’ve found what works for you: EFT.

    I started EFT therapy (emotional freedom technique by Gary Craig) after I graduated high school. It’s a lot about working with emotions and sensations in the body that memories trigger. Today, these memories don’t bother me anymore, they don’t evoke anything in me, for me it’s a sign that the worst is over…

    For a long time I couldn’t get rid of the body trembling – it was my body’s reaction. It kind of went away on its own, only when I really processed the pain in depth around the age of 5, when the bullying started. The healer (EFT coach) helped me with it.

    I’m really happy for you that you don’t have body trembling anymore. That’s a huge achievement! And also that those traumatic memories don’t cause any major disruption in your life anymore. It’s a sign that you’ve healed and processed most of it, which is amazing ❤️

    but given how it was and how long it took, I can’t just erase some of the scars… As you wrote… conditioning…. maybe now it’s about having compassion and care for these scars

    Sure, you don’t want to experience similar pain again, and so you’re sensitive (and want to protect yourself) whenever there’s anything that reminds you of that past dynamic. It’s okay to have compassion for those scars… you deserve to be safe and protected ❤️

    Someone recently wrote to me, when we were discussing the inner child, that they go into psychosis when they return to childhood. So it’s very important to have someone to help us with this, certainly at least in the beginning, when our condition is still very serious.

    Yes, definitely. Trauma healing is difficult and requires special training. If the therapist is uninformed or not skilled enough, they may retraumatize the person.

    And I guess there needs to be a minimal container of Self (we need to be in touch with our compassionate, observer Self) before we can do any self-healing that involves the inner child. We need to have a safe container before going back into those old, painful memories. The therapist is ideally the person who gives us that safe container at first. And little by little, we start developing that container for ourselves…

    It seems EFT helped you develop that container, and you’re now able to work with yourself, to calm yourself down, come back to your center quickly, and be very aware of your internal process. Way to go, Jana, keep doing the good work! ❤️

    Now, I focus a lot on mindfulness, meditation, and various simple exercises with my inner child. It comforts me and with thorough practice – every day – and allowing myself to be calm, I feel better and more grounded.

    Do you want me to share some of these “exercises” with you in the future? It’s nothing difficult or special. Really. I just came up with my own things that work for me.

    Yes, absolutely! Please do share some of those exercises. I think working with our inner child can be truly transformative, so yes, please 😊❤️

    #450569
    silvery blue
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    It is true that we cannot take back what we have said or written, but the most important thing for me is that we can always start over and do better. 😊 ❤️ You don’t have to apologize, because there is nothing to apologize for. I can see that you are trying very hard, and I really appreciate it. I believe we have all moved on a lot and are looking at things from a better and healthier perspective. ❤️

    How are you doing?

    🦋

    #450570
    silvery blue
    Participant

    Hello Tee,

    Don’t worry. It’s not horrible. ❤️ The truth is, I take it in stride and now I remember the nice things from my childhood much more often.

    Alessa asked me a while ago if there was anyone who protected me. And there was. My older brother took really good care of me and his friends too. The older kids I met outside (not at our school) were also really nice. I remember them giving me advice on what to do if I met someone mean and how to defend myself, and where I shouldn’t go alone, etc. Sometimes I was with adults outside, and luckily they were always very kind. No older kids or adults ever hurt me.

    I had really nice grandmothers. They were very supportive. It’s a shame they weren’t as good mothers as grandmothers. My parents didn’t have the easiest relationships with their mothers either. I felt that very early on, and maybe it also helped me look at our relationship a little more objectively. Where were my parents supposed to learn to be more emotionally accessible, when their own mothers were quite strict with them? They just copied the pattern. But as I mentioned before, my parents made great progress and managed to bridge that emotional gap. ❤️ We just had an election. And my parents voted for a party that has mental health care on its agenda… I was very positively surprised. 😊

    They knew about my social phobia, but I am not sure if I told them that I was bullied. I was too shy to speak about it.

    So, there were many positives as well. And I’m becoming more and more aware of them and remembering them more than the negatives. 😊

    Honestly, what really pulled me into those difficult memories a few days ago here on the forum was that strong defensive, almost agressive energy that dominated the forum in that moment. Now, I am more aware of that and I will be more careful about it. ❤️ ☀️

    But what about you? How are you doing these days? Do I understand correctly that your mother had/has narcissistic personality disorder?

    I’ll write about the inner child tomorrow. If you have any experiences working with your inner child, feel free to share them as well. ☺️

    🦋

    #450574
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Jana:

    You asked how I’m doing, well- I am doing well just for reading your message to me 3.5 hours ago. It brought the first smile of the day to my face, and I’m still smiling 😊.

    Thank you for your kindness and for noticing and focusing on the positives. I am so glad you are here in the forums- you have a lot of good thing to offer others.

    🌿🤍 Anita

    #450575
    anita
    Participant

    * a lot of good things

    #450590
    Tee
    Participant

    Hi Jana,

    I’ll be traveling for the next few days and probably won’t be able to reply before I get back.

    Till then, take care, and see you later! 😊 ❤️

    #450591
    silvery blue
    Participant

    Hello everyone,

    I would like to share with you some notes about the inner child. This is a short exercise with two cushions from Hahn’s book Fear (I really recommend the book – a very interesting and enlightening look at the original fear).

    Talking to the inner child:

    Put down two cushions. First sit on one cushion and pretend you are the helpless, vulnerable child. You express yourself: “Dear one, I am very helpless. I cannot do anything. It’s very dangerous. I’m going to die; nobody is taking care of me.” You have to speak the language of the baby. And while you are expressing yourself like that, if the feelings of fear, hopelessness, stress, and helplessness come up, please allow them to come up and recognize them. Allow the helpless child enough time to express herself fully. This is very important.
    After she has finished, move to the other cushion to play the role of the adult self. As you look at the other cushion, imagine the helpless child is sitting there and talk to her: “Listen to me. I am your adult self. You are no longer a helpless child; we have grown up into an adult already. We have enough intelligence to protect ourselves, to survive by ourselves. We don’t need someone to take care of us anymore.”

    I have stuffed animals from my childhood at home and I use a small stuffed bunny instead of a cushion. 😊 It was my favorite toy, which made me feel safe when I cuddled with it. At the same time, it is a symbol of my childhood vulnerability for me. It’s more personal to me to talk to my favourite toy than just an empty cushion, and it connects me more deeply with my inner child.

    I have more stuffed animals from my childhood, as well as other items, like my first earrings or even a lock of hair. When I started to have more hair, my mom cut it off and kept it as a keepsake. That’s how it’s done here. Some moms even keep their children’s first teeth. I have them, too. 😄 It’s a bit strange habit!

    I think it’s better to have some childhood objects or maybe photos. They can help us connect with the inner child more authentically and deeply.

    I don’t use the same words. I think it’s very important that we say our own words, what we really feel. Hanh has a lot of guided meditations on YouTube, which are certainly very useful, but in my opinion it’s better for us to say our own words, mantras, meditations, to make the “ritual” as personal as possible. It’s better to say it out loud, not just in the head.

    I actually use his own words from his video The Second Element of True Love: Karuna, which speaks to my heart a lot. Sometimes I say them to myself, sometimes I play the video and listen to him and think of my inner child:

    Darling, I know there is a lot of suffering, uneasiness, difficulty in you. I know…
    In the past, I have said things, I’ve done things that have made the situation worse.
    Now, I’ve already understood… I don’t want to continue like that.
    So, darling, please tell me about your suffering, your difficulties, your aspirations.
    I am free now. I am able to listen to you.
    I know that I have not understood you enough.
    Now my desire, deepest desire is to understand you deeply
    so that I will not make you suffer anymore like I have done in the past.

    It helps me cultivate compassion for myself, for my younger self… and forgive myself for not always treating myself well. And it also reminds me to have compassion for others, for their pain and suffering, and their inner children. I really love these words. It’s full of love, vulnerability, compassion. It became my personal mantra.

    I remember that I used to be unable to say “You’re pretty” out loud to my inner child. It was so cringe and uncomfortable that it was impossible to say it… This seed was planted in me a lot by my mom and sister. Pretty harsh comments about my appearance since early childhood. And it affected me so much that in my teens I had trouble looking at myself in the mirror. I was so ashamed of myself… We have to keep trying, watch what’s going on inside us, work with those emotions – maybe even with someone who knows how to process emotions better, and gradually it becomes normal and natural.

    For me, appearance is not very important. For me, being a good person has always been essential. But when our self-image is so strongly influenced, we need to work on it, because it has a very negative impact on our mental health. I suffered from extreme shyness and the false belief that no one could love me because I was so ugly, I avoided eye contact because I felt so ugly, and all of this led to isolation and self-pity…

    Today, I can even smile at myself in the mirror. I let my messy wavy/curly hair grow out long like before. No more ironing, no more pulling it into a ponytail, no more fake colors… No more hiding my face under make-up. It may seem unrelated to the inner child, but in this way I return to my innocence, to the state when, as a child, I had no idea that I could be ugly. ❤️

    I also connect with my inner child through activities I used to enjoy. I wander through nature, observe trees, plants, insects, take care of pets… it supports my childlike sensitivity and curiosity. I’ve also been trying to be more creative lately – I paint, draw, made things… when we become adults, we very quickly forget the childish part – being enthusiastic, creative, imaginative. I think this is generally very beneficial because it forces us to think a little differently.

    In this regard, I also expose myself to more positive stress. This means that I try to do something different every week… even if it’s just going to the store in a different city or visiting unfamiliar places, … This way, I expose myself to the “unknown”, which used to be very scary for me as a child, and learn to be more flexible, creative and brave. ❤️ 😊

    I try to regularly talk to myself – compassionately, kindly, supportively. This is something I missed as a little child… just a little tenderness, nothing more… This is the part I’m focusing on the most right now – I try to give myself what I missed as a child… just a gentle caress, a kind word, a smile, … and I also try to cultivate it by spreading it around. I make sure that my partner feels loved and cared about. And our families, too… even though they are not ready and open to accept it fully yet. It is okay. I believe that even just effort and intention are very important and that some tiny seed of love and compassion will eventually awaken within them… ❤️

    🦋

    #450592
    silvery blue
    Participant

    Hello Anita, thank you. I am sending ☀️ to make the autumn a bit happier. 😊

    Hello Tee, thank you, too! Enjoy the vacation. 😊

    🦋

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