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  • in reply to: On Purpise and Shame- what is my purpose? What is yours? #456572
    anita
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    Hey Peter:

    Thank you for caring to clarify (3rd & 4th paragraphs right above). That is kind of you 🤍

    I just used the 🖥 to look up the parable and back to my 📱 (hence the emojis showing up, can’t or won’t resist them 😊, and then add some. Hope you don’t mind?)

    The parable was a 🎁 of anxiety and shame by impact, if not by intent for the intelligent, highly perceptive young Peter.

    I wish there was someone back then, a caring perceptive adult, who’d motice how you felt, and maybe offer you a different parable, one of justice and kindness-

    because the literal story portrays injustice and an unempathetc, punishing, cruel master. And children take things literally. I still do 😕

    By the way, as I read the story, I thought that the third sevant didn’t double his talent because 2× 1 is still 1. I thought he was methamatically aware (my literal interpretation)

    I’ll write more later.

    🎁 😕 🥺 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456571
    anita
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    Hey 👋 Confused (now using my 📱):

    I hear you. Sounds to me like you miss her a lot. The fact that this is very much a long- distance relationship where you’ve been with her physically only 3 days, and that was 4 months ago-

    That would be difficult and challenging for anyone regardless of attachment style and history!

    🍃 🤍 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456570
    anita
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    Good morning 🙂 Confused:

    I did not yet read your 2 recent posts because I want to attend first to a few things from what we talked about yesterday (it took me a couple of hours to write the following, which includes my personal best understanding- for you to consider and evaluate if you choose to do that):

    1) You shared: “I remember sometimes when I’d go and hug my mother (I was like 10) she would suspiciously look at me and tell me ‘What do u need now? / What mischief have u done?’ so I stopped that too, eventually”. I asked you: “Do you remember what you felt when your mother met your love with suspicion and accusation?”, and you answered: “Hmm, I think I felt shame.”-

    When a child goes to hug a parent, they’re not just giving affection — they’re seeking connection, safety, warmth and reassurance. But what did you receive instead? Suspicion: “What do you need now?”, “What mischief have you done?”

    Your affection was misinterpreted as manipulation or wrongdoing. For a child, that’s confusing and painful.

    Your reaction: Shame. Shame is the emotion of: ‘Something is wrong with me.’, ‘My affection is unwanted.’, ‘My needs are suspicious.’, ‘I shouldn’t reach out.’ So, you shut down that part of yourself (the part that feels affection, the part that has needs, the part that wants to reach out)- so to stay safe.

    2) You shared: “Yes, my brain does that a lot with everyone, I guess it’s a protective mechanism. Actually, it started when she confessed her feelings with the poem (I felt ‘wow, she is really into me, now I gotta be careful, why am I not feeling more enthusiastic? I should feel more!’)”-

    When she showed strong, surprising affection toward you, catching you off guard (the poem), you froze. Why? Seems to me that the reason is that Affection became associated with Rejection and Accusations (your mother’s repeated response), and the same shame you felt at age 10 resurfaces: ‘I’m not reacting right.’, ‘I’m disappointing her.’, ‘I’m doing something wrong.’

    Your childhood taught you: ‘Affection is not safe. If I show it, I’ll be questioned or judged. If someone shows it to me, I’ll fail them.’

    That’s why you said earlier: “Now I gotta be careful.”- careful of repeating that old shame.

    Before the poem, things were probably ambiguous, playful, or low‑stakes. After the poem, it became real, serious, emotionally loaded. That sudden shift can make someone pull back internally to reassess.

    The most telling part is this: “wow, she is really into me, now I gotta be careful”- That’s not the thought of someone who doesn’t care. That’s the thought of someone who cares so much about not causing harm that they become cautious.

    3) Because of double posting I didn’t read the part about “Why ‘Too Much Love’ Leads to Shutdown”- the article talks about emotional Burnout caused by (1) Excessive giving without equal reciprocation, (2) Focusing solely on a partner and sacrificing your own needs, priorities, and self-care, (3) Fear of abandonment, (4) A history of heartbreak.

    I think that your mother’s the core of your history of heartbreak 😞 What do you think, Confused?

    Next, I will read your recent 2 posts and reply

    🤍 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456564
    anita
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    * outside of the fear

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456563
    anita
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    Hmm.. yes, I think the two of you are afraid, scared of.. well, you tell me. You know better than I do.

    But outside if the fear, I see something special on your part and on hers, no less.

    It’s almost 9 pm here, b Back in (my) morning 🌄 (your.. evening)

    🌄🌙🐇 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456561
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Dear Confused:

    Good to read back from you this Wed night 🌙 (here).

    I mean your feelings were real, and so were hers. And the connection between the two of you was real, and to me- it’s inspiring, something special there.

    BUT or AND- unless the two of you are okay with keeping it LD forevermore- in-person reality is going to present challenges.

    No, I didn’t mean you should have met her sooner. What I mean is that- REALLY living with her as man and wife, or man and partner- in an apartment, just you and her, day after day, night after night, month after month-

    That’s a different ball game than LD + 3 days in- person that you actually spent with her.

    And what I figure is that maybe the two of you are afraid 😨 of making it real, as in living together

    🤔 😱 😕 🍃 💡 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456555
    anita
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    Oh, and about “bound to end”: the May- Nov “high” was bound to end because that high wasn’t yet tested by reality: you didn’t yet meet her in-person for the first time, no real movement toward living with her irl.

    So, it was a high, like throwing a stone up in the air, it’s bound to come down (gravity)

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456554
    anita
    Participant

    How to soften the extremes..?

    Well, do you see extremes in your thinking, like expecting to feel in- love every minute forever more, is that extreme thinking in your mind?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456552
    anita
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    And about black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinking, aka binary thinking- that was MY thinking for ages, so I am no stranger to it.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456551
    anita
    Participant

    Right, I remember now, the poem she sent you, and then the convo of moving.

    Well, this means that the May-Nov relatively good time was bound to end.

    The doubts you already had May-Nov (and being that your “brain does that a lot with everyone,”), were.. destined to multiply and intensify sooner than later, triggered by the poem and thoughts of moving.

    I am stating the obvious (right above), because sometimes you see the past in black and white: all good < Nov and then.. all bad (even though there’s laughter and affection with her).

    I wish you could balance your thinking, so it’s not.. well, distorted by black and white/ all or nothing thinking.

    Maybe when you think an extreme, remind yourself of something that softens that extreme..?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456548
    anita
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    So, it was a relatively good time, May- Nov. Not perfect but pretty good, just some moments imagining breakup, and then a short time before you were to meet her for the first time ( and move closer toward moving to Cyprus so to live with her), that was when those moments of doubt became a lot?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456546
    anita
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    Before Nov, you felt love for Y all the time, every day, month after month, not a single moment of doubt?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456544
    anita
    Participant

    Do you trust your idea of love being Amazing Always?

    anita
    Participant

    Hey Peter:

    On purpise, ha-ha.

    I didn’t get a chance to bring Copilot back to the conversation, so I have to use my own inferior intelligence.

    Copilot did introduce a new (to me) term: existential shame, which means shame for existing, a supposed step up in shame severity from “toxic shame”. “Healthy shame” is the non- pathological shame.

    You mentioned shame in regard to the experience of religion that you grew up with, religious- shame, I suppose.

    As I’ve been typing this, I am hearing The News Hour about a book called “Shame has to change sides”- hmm…

    🍃 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456541
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Dear Confused who is not at all a bad person:

    I had to open with the above because it’s true!

    As I read your recent post, a connection`was made in my mind: your mother didn’t trust you to love her (to hug her because you loved her). Fast forward, you don’t trust.. you to love this young woman (I’ll refer to her as Y, so to keep it simple)

    And you don’t trust her to love you.

    A mistrust in love carried from one generation to the next..?

    But thing is, you do love Y, it’s clear to me. This love is like buried underground right now, so it’s still there and it comes up occasionally like laughing with her for hours and that cute-aggression which you described feeling not long ago.

    Do you remember what you felt when your mother met your love with suspicion and accusation?

    🤔 Anita

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