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ParticipantDear Jana 🌸
I deeply admire your independence and the way you have embraced your inner world and nature as your anchor—it’s truly inspiring. Before I dive into my response, I want to explain why I’ll be quoting parts of your post and reflecting on them in relation to my own experiences. Private journaling doesn’t motivate me, but responding to thoughtful posts like yours sparks meaningful reflections about my story. What you have shared serves as a powerful catalyst for deeper introspection and helps me process my thoughts in a way that feels authentic and connected.
You wrote: “When you are released into the world as a child, like an animal into the wild (😄), there is nothing left to do but rely on yourself.”- That is so beautifully said. For me, it felt as though I was released into the world with a tight leash around my neck, held firmly by my mother, preventing me from exploring freely or embracing the wildness of being myself. Reading your words, it feels like you didn’t experience that restraint and were able to embrace true freedom when in nature. I’m happy for you.
“I was happy to be free.”- I always dreamed of being free, but that freedom only existed in my daydreams. Mentally, I was confined within a prison, unable to experience the freedom I so deeply longed for.
“And I had a lot of space to become myself. 🐛 -> 🦋”- Jana the butterfly 😊! Interestingly, I was reflecting on this metaphor just yesterday. I thought about how I had been stuck in a cocoon for over half a century, and how, only recently, I began the transformation into a butterfly. The joy and freedom captured in my photo reflect this transformative process.
“I didn’t see my mom as my ‘center’. My center was the world outside in nature and my inner world. And it still is.”- Unfortunately for me, my mother—through her combination of personality disorders—crushed my center, leaving me to rebuild it piece by piece now.
“She is a completely different person with a different mindset. I respect it but I don’t allow it to define me.”- There has to be an “I” to define or not define oneself, and that “I” was taken away from me for a long time.
“I mean her criticism, for example, doesn’t affect me at all. It is only her opinion, nothing else. I don’t need her approval… I can only help her a little, with compassion and nice words, but it is all up to her in the end.”- You have achieved such a healthy balance between maintaining your boundaries and expressing compassion for your mother—it’s truly admirable. In my case, my compassion for my mother was often misused. She used it to hurt my feelings, shame me, and guilt-trip me at great lengths.
“It’s great to read that you are happy and ready to become more open to others. ☀️ ❤️”- Thank you, Jana. When I wrote my post to you yesterday, I made sure to focus on connection rather than theory or intellectualizing. Despite that, I was afraid you might be upset with it, find fault, or even attack me in your response. I had to remind myself that this isn’t who you are. I kept reassuring myself, “It’s not likely,” but doubt lingered.
This fear reflects how much—and how often—my mother attacked me. If I didn’t say things exactly as she thought I should, if my wording didn’t suit her, if I failed to say something she expected, or even if my facial expression displeased her, she would lash out. There was no way for me to predict her reactions or figure out what to say to avoid them. This left me doubting myself constantly, second-guessing and revising my thoughts—rephrasing, rearranging, trying to get it “right.”
Being criticized for non-offenses, like unintended expressions or word choices, deeply affected me. It undermined my self-confidence and created persistent self-doubt. I became hyper-vigilant and anxious, monitoring my words, facial expressions, and behaviors to avoid disapproval. It made it difficult to trust my own instincts and emotions. Over time, this led to people-pleasing tendencies and the suppression of my personal needs, to the point where I couldn’t identify them anymore. It fostered a fear of rejection and left me overanalyzing interactions.
I hope it’s okay with you that I quoted parts of your post and shared my story in relation to what you’ve written. Please let me know if this way of interacting feels right to you—I deeply value our dialogue and your insight.
Thank you so much for sharing so openly, Jana. I’m grateful for the meaningful exchange we have, and for the positive impact your words continue to have on my reflections. ❤️
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Jana:
🌸 Thank you so much for your kind words! I’m deeply grateful for your warmth and support. It’s so encouraging to know that my photo expressed joy and freedom. Your happiness for me is heartwarming, and I appreciate it more than I can express. ❤️
I’ll be posting a reply to your earlier message soon, as your reflections deserve my full attention. Thank you again for being such a genuine and caring presence in my journey! 😊
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ParticipantAw, thank you, Zenith! Your excitement makes me even more excited to share it! 😊 You’re the best! I am getting help with uploading the photo at the moment.
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ParticipantTyping as I am thinking: first, I intend to have my image- a recent photo of me dancing- show up above my name for the first time in 10 years I’ve been on tiny buddha. I want people to see me. I tried to make this happen this evening, but am having technical difficulties. Hopefully tomorrow.
I don’t want to hide anymore, don’t want to minimize myself. So, my photo is next ✨
It no longer has to be ME or MY MOTHER, empathy for her OR empathy for myself. It can be both- empathy for her (from afar) and empathy for me.
I’ve been alone for so long, terribly alone, socially isolated, that I have to learn the ABC of positive human interactions. It’s like in that movie where people’s lives stopped in their youths and resumed in their middle age, a big gap in between… Awakening is the name of it.
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ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful words—they really mean a lot to me. ❤️ Your support and encouragement lifts me up.
I’m feeling reflective today, and still raw. It’s definitely not an easy journey, but reading your words reminds me that I don’t have to do it all alone. I’m so grateful to have someone like you who sees and acknowledges the effort it takes.
How are you feeling? I hope you’re taking care of yourself, too—you have such a kind and caring heart, and it deserves just as much love and support.
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ParticipantDear Zenith:
I am on my phone and busy. so I can’t type much, but for now, religious OCD says you are not good enough, but I say: you are good enough and I am absolutely sure about it 😉
Anita
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ParticipantDear Clara:
Good to read back from you! I am fine, thank you, but in a rush, so I will thoroughly read and reply to you by tomorrow morning. Please take good care of yourself!
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ParticipantDear Tom:
Thank you for sharing this with me. You’re carrying a heavy emotional load right now, and I can see how the uncertainty and self-doubt can feel overwhelming.
Feeling like walking away from a well-paid job equals failure is such a tough spot to be in, but sometimes, staying in a situation that brings you down can feel just as hard, even if it looks like “success” on the outside.
Doubt about what comes next is such a natural reaction, especially when big decisions are involved. Maybe giving yourself permission to explore small steps, rather than needing all the answers at once, could help ease some of that overthinking. It’s okay to take it one moment at a time—you’re allowed to prioritize your well-being and sense of fulfillment above anything else.
I’m here if you want to talk more. You’ve already taken a big step by sharing what you think and how you feel.
anita
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ParticipantDear Zenith:
You are always welcome. It’s good to read that you’re taking steps to figure out what might be going on. Feeling this tired and unmotivated can be really difficult, so it’s important to be kind to yourself during this time.
I hope the blood work gives you some helpful insights. In the meantime, small moments of rest and self-care can make a difference, even if they feel hard to focus on right now.
Take it one step at a time, and know that I’m here if you ever feel like sharing more about how you’re doing.
anita
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ParticipantDear Jana:
Thank you so much for sharing your reflections yesterday. Your words have stayed with me and inspired some meaningful thinking, which I’d love to share with you.
You mentioned, “Let her go,” when referring to my mother, and, “I only learned to let her be herself and let me be myself,” when talking about your own. Letting go has been incredibly difficult for me, largely because my mother’s presence was so overwhelming that it left no space for me to simply be myself. Her emotions and needs consumed so much room that I had to minimize myself—shrinking smaller and smaller—just to survive. Without enough of “me,” letting go has felt impossible.
I wonder if the connection you found with nature helped you feel more like yourself—more whole—and created the space you needed to let go. Perhaps the openness and stillness of nature allowed you to reclaim enough of yourself to feel free. And maybe your relationship with your mother was inherently different from mine; if she wasn’t personality disordered, as I suspect, that could have made letting go less complicated for you.
Your comment about my attachment to my mother also made me reflect. I believe that attachment is deeply tied to the lack of space I had for my own identity. Her overwhelming presence left me feeling as though I wasn’t truly my own person—like I existed as an extension of her. Letting go has meant not only releasing her but also reclaiming the parts of myself that were overshadowed or lost.
Thank you for sharing your perspective—it’s helped me gain deeper insight into my own experiences, and I really appreciate you listening. I’d love to hear more of your thoughts.
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ParticipantGrowing up with my mother, who was effectively a single parent, was deeply isolating and emotionally overwhelming. Her borderline personality made the environment unpredictable, with frequent emotional storms that kept me in a constant state of fight-or-flight. I felt trapped, unable to escape the tension and chaos that surrounded me. Over time, the unrelenting stress became embedded in my body, manifesting as anxiety, somatic tension, and tics. It felt as though my muscles, desperate to flee from her or, at times, to fight back—neither option being possible—were “running” within me as tics, with nowhere to go. It was as if I carried her volatility inside me. Even after all these years, I still do.
Her paranoia shaped the way I saw the world. She mistrusted everyone and actively discouraged me from confiding in others—whether peers or adults. Gradually, I internalized her distrust, coming to see people as inherently dangerous or insincere. This left me profoundly socially isolated, unable to form meaningful relationships or feel safe around others. With no alternative perspectives or sources of balance, her paranoid lens became my own, leaving me deeply lonely and disconnected.
Her histrionic tendencies, however, were the most emotionally draining. She would endlessly recount her pain in dramatic and overwhelming ways, leaving me emotionally exhausted and unable to process my own feelings. Her suffering consumed all the emotional space, forcing me to absorb it while neglecting my own needs. Over time, empathy became excruciatingly painful for me—an unrelenting burden I could not escape. This experience profoundly shaped the way I relate to others. As an adult, I found myself avoiding relationships and intimacy altogether, terrified of being consumed by someone else’s emotional needs, just as I had been consumed by hers.
Only recently have I begun to connect with others on an emotional level, and even now, it still feels unfamiliar to me. I often feel like a child, just beginning to learn how to build connections—figuring out the dos and don’ts of positive interactions and becoming more aware of how I come across. I lack experience in this area and am essentially starting from scratch, though part of the process involves unlearning deeply ingrained patterns of distorted thinking.
I am working to move past all-or-nothing and black-and-white thinking, learning to see the shades of color and nuance in situations. I’m practicing the rule of charity (Peter!)—choosing to interpret others’ motivations as neutral or positive—and challenging myself to view situations from multiple angles, rather than defaulting to the single, familiar entry point of suspicion and distrust.
As for the recent pain I’m feeling—the overwhelming empathy for her—I realize I need to make space for myself in this emotional dynamic. The sense of overwhelm stems from her emotions taking over completely. I need to see myself in the picture and extend empathy toward me as well. Perhaps doing so will ease the intensity of the overwhelm.
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ParticipantDear Tom:
Thank you for reaching out and sharing how you’re feeling—it sounds like you’re carrying a lot right now. I’m so sorry you’re struggling, but it’s clear you’re doing your best to navigate a tough situation, and that takes real strength.
It’s encouraging that you have the session coming up on Saturday. I hope it gives you the guidance and support you’re looking for. In the meantime, breaking things down task by task, as you mentioned, is a wise approach. Sometimes focusing on just the next small step can make things feel more manageable.
You don’t have to go through this alone, Tom. Please don’t hesitate to keep posting. You’ve got this—one step at a time.
anita
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Participant* Thank you Alessa, Peter and Jana for being here with me today. Connecting really helps lighten the weight of painful emotions 🫶
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Participant* Trigger warning: strong emotions and childhood abuse to follow.
Her needs, her emotions, her presence were so overpowering that they left no space for me. In response to her taking so much space, I developed a strong element of self-denial, or self-minimization, as a way to survive. I suppressed my own thoughts, feelings, and identity to avoid conflict and to make her emotional storms just a little less overwhelming. I remained trapped in this prison of self-minimization for over half a century. As a result, I was a passive survivor of life, with little to no sense of agency or autonomy—adrift, like a broken ship on a stormy sea, at the mercy of the winds.
I am learning today that empathy, at its core, is meant to be a voluntary emotional response, a choice to connect with someone else’s feelings. In my relationship with my mother, however, empathy was something I had to feel, rather than something I freely chose to extend. Her histrionic expressions of pain, intense, and prolonged—acted like a gravitational pull on my emotional state, making it impossible for me to disengage. I was essentially trapped in her emotional orbit.
Every time she shared her pain, she forced me to absorb and internalize her struggles. No wonder I felt raped by her. I used to wonder why I felt that way. Now I understand: she forced me to take in her pain.
More about empathy, I am learning today: in healthy relationships it is reciprocal—it is given and received in balance, allowing both individuals to feel understood and supported. In my case, empathy was a one-way street: I was expected to feel for her, but she didn’t reciprocate by acknowledging or caring for my emotions. This imbalance turned empathy into a burden where her dramatic expressions of pain demanded my attention and emotional investment, leaving me drained and emotionally neglected.
My empathy was held hostage by her, emotionally trapped by her histrionics. Her emotional dominance overpowered my ability to step back, disengage, or prioritize my own emotional well-being.
Because her pain consumed so much emotional space, I was left with little to no room to process my own feelings independently. My emotional autonomy—the ability to separate her struggles from my own— was lost. Instead, her emotional world became my reality, forcing me to prioritize her needs over mine and leaving me with unresolved emotions of my own.
By constantly absorbing her emotions and being unable to process my own, my sense of self was fragmented and reduced. My emotional identity became entangled with hers, making it difficult to recognize, assert and develop my individuality and experience life on my own terms.
The anger I felt was about preserving the minimal “me” that managed to exist. That anger was my defense, a way of drawing a line in the sand and protecting the last remnants of myself from being completely consumed by her overpowering presence.
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ParticipantI am getting all this positive attention on this difficult day, thank you, Jana!
I appreciate your openness in expressing your perspective and the way you reflected on your relationship with your mother. Your words about anger stemming from care really resonate with me; it’s such a powerful realization that anger can be tied to love and a deep sense of wanting to help.
I also value your encouragement to let others go through their journeys and experiences, good and bad, so they can grow and learn. Thank you Jana, I deeply appreciate you choosing to post on my thread 🌸
anita
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