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anitaParticipantGood morning, Confused:
About dorsal vagal shutdown in general, and in the simplest language:
When stress feels too big ๐ฅ, the nervous system hits a kind of internal โoff switchโ to protect you (from a having a dangerously high heart ๐ซ, for one), and instead of FightโorโFlight (fighting or running), the body goes into Freeze.
Itโs not a choice, a personality trait, or laziness โ itโs a builtโin biological response.
People describe it as feeling numb, disconnected, checked out, going blank, feeling heavy, slow, or foggy, feeling very tired, lowโenergy, having trouble thinking, speaking, or caring about things.
Itโs your body telling you: โThis is too much for me to process at full intensity, so Iโm going to dim the lights.โ, or โWeโre going to slow everything down, so you donโt break.โ
Imagine a car going downhill with failing brakes. Dorsal vagal shutdown is the emergency brake that prevents a crash.
Or imagine a computer thatโs overheating. Instead of letting the system fry itself, it goes into safe mode. Dorsal vagal shutdown is your nervous systemโs version of safe mode.
Itโs not ideal, but itโs protective.
It’s possible that you grew up shut- downed in this way (that’s why you remember so little about the time you were younger than 17), you then recovered somewhat but in Nov last year the early shutdown was reactivated. Maybe you are feeling now like you used to feel when you were a kid.
* I grew up heavily shut down, spaced out, hardly aware of the outside world (not seeing ๐ถโ๐ซ๏ธ or hearing ๐ what’s in front of me, not understanding what people were saying, etc., my brain filtering out most input), but sometimes, normal noises felt unbearably loud ๐, light felt too intense, smells felt unbearable, certain clothing felt unbearably uncomfortable..
My brain was filtering out most input, but the input that broke through felt too strong.
Itโs like having the volume turned down to 2โฆ but every now and then something blasts at 10.
Does this resonate?
๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantMoving out of your parent’s’ house is HUGE, Wow, Miss L Dutchess.. I’m impressed. B back 2 u in the morning.
anitaParticipantDear Like-(the)-Night-Confused (LNC):
Yes, we talked about Dorsal Vagal Shutdown. I brought it up to you some time ago because that seemed fitting to what you’ve been going through.
Too much emotion=> Overwhelm ๐ฑ => ๐
It makes me feel nice, the idea ๐ก of the two of you living in Cyprus.. Just the romantic-by proxy part of me.
๐ฑ ๐ ๐ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Miss L Dutchess ๐
I am so happy to read your first 2026 thread!
To me, it looks like you’ve been making progress this year ๐
๐ for trying to ๐ the glass half full ๐ฅ and for keeping an open mind!
How exciting- you working with a dating coach. I didn’t even know there was such a thing as a dating coach (there’s a lot I don’t know ๐).
I want to reply more Mon morning (it’s Sun 8 pm here).
๐ฅ ๐ ๐ Anita
anitaParticipant* Does she plan to go back to Cyprus
anitaParticipantI think ๐ค it’s 3:42 am in Greece ๐ฌ๐ท when you submitted the above. I wonder if you work the night shift and that’s why you’re regularly awake at this time โฐ๏ธ
It’s right after 7 pm here.
Does she plan to go back to Greece after Germany? How do you feel about possibly living in Cyprus?
๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantThe Stone and the Sky:
A monk once asked the master, โWhy is peace so hard to find?โ
The master picked up a small stone and placed it in the monkโs hand.
โFeel how heavy it is,โ he said.
The monk nodded.
Then the master pointed to the sky. โHow heavy is that?โ
The monk looked up. โIt has no weight at all.โ
The master smiled. โPeace is like the sky. Your thoughts are like the stone.โ
The monk frowned. โSo, I must throw the stone away?โ
The master shook his head. โNo. Just stop gripping it so tightly.โ
The monk opened his hand. The stone rested there, unchanged. But his fingers were no longer clenched.
The master said, โPeace is not the absence of stones. It is the absence of gripping.โ
anitaParticipantHey Confused: who are they asking to be let out? ๐
anitaParticipantGood ๐ Confused:
You wrote earlier:
“So you mean let them be and pay no attention to them? Rather act on logic/values?”-
I would say: do pay attention to your feelings. Accept them without judgment. Welcome them into your home (your body and mind) without harrassing them with logic and values.
Keep the Logic-Values Guards (LVGs)๐โโ๏ธ ๐โโ๏ธ out so that your feelings don’t get harrassed (leading to your feelings getting scared and hiding much of the time).
These guards have a place in the context of what you communicate to other people (through words & actions)
They have no place in context of what you feel internally.
In yet other words, you are not a good person because you feel A and B, and you’re not a bad person for feeling X and Y.
What you feel internally is your private domain. Your business. You don’t owe anyone to feel this or that for them.
Keep the guards ๐โโ๏ธ ๐โโ๏ธ out of your private domain. They don’t belong there.
๐ฎ Anita
anitaParticipantI hope ๐ Confused & wild animals are ๐ด ๐ค this too early Sun morning in Greece; getting late here, WA, USA.
Good ๐, ๐ Anita
anitaParticipantDouble posting, ha- ha.
Yes, consider a different relationship with those.. wild animals. They don’t listen to “logic/ values”- ..
Your own “wild animals”, ๐ (that emoji just showed up as I typed)-
Tell me about them. If you give them a voice, what do they say (or bark, or howl)?
๐ฟ๐ Anita
anitaParticipantClose to 9 pm here, I scrolled up and down, forgetting to do so on the RIGHT side of the phone ๐ฑ screen, so accidently flagged your earlier post for inappropriate content ๐
anitaParticipantWhat an original question, Confused: “Why would they be wilding”?
Maybe the more you try to control them, the wilder they get?
Like, the more you self-doubt them, the angrier they get?
๐ ๐ก ๐ฟ … ๐ Anita
anitaParticipantEarly, early Sun ๐, Confused (9 hours ahead of me):
Cyprus.. Germany ๐ฉ๐ช
Hmm.. How ๐ค can this happen? Well, let me see.. think of emotions like wild animals, sometimes behaving, other times out of your control, W.I.L.D.
๐ค ๐๐ฎ Anita
anitaParticipant* and it’s NOT wonderful anymore
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