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January 26, 2026 at 5:48 pm in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #454596
anitaParticipantDear Emma:
I need to re-read your long post of about 6 hours ago tomorrow morning (when I have use of a 🖥.) For now, after first reading: how lovely it was in the beginning. It made me smile to read how comfortable you felt with each other.
Trouble started, if I understand correctly, over the key 🔑 issue. That triggered his jealousy and insecurity.
Seems like you told him about it because you were confused maybe, you wanted to be 100% honest with him..? You meant well, or at the least, you definitely didn’t intend to hurt W. You didn’t think thoroughly about it.
Having read about his words and behaviors, seems to me that it was just a matter of time before there’d be problems, even without the key 🔑 issue.
Maybe it’s about two individuals with trouble regulating emotions, getting confused and overreacting.
The whole thing was a month long- enough time to Hope and Dream and Wish 🤞 but when emotions get too intense, anxiety, anger.. on both sides, what are the chances for a stable, long-term relationship?
More tomorrow. If you get a chance to read this before I return- in about 14 hours from now- and would like to respond to my thoughts, or fill in blind spots I may have, please 🙏 do.
🤍 🐕 🐈 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
Yes, Bogart had a wonderful time at the park 🐕👌.
I am glad your son calmed down after lunch and had a fun play date!
I am using my phone and I want to reply further tomorrow morning 🌄 when I have the use of a computer 🖥-
So back to you Tues morning. I hope 🙏 you are having a restful night 💤
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipant* Responsibility, Engulfment, Disappointing. RED 🙂
anitaParticipantDisappointing, Engulfment, Responsibility
RED 🌹
Maybe it will help to write ✍️ one paragraph on each, whatever comes to mind (aka stream of consciousness writing (or typing)?
January 26, 2026 at 4:42 pm in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #454592
anitaParticipantJust came back from a solo walk after the walk with Bogart. Bogart was named after the 40s movie star 🌟 Humphrey Bogart. I am glad 😊 you have a cute cat 🐈 sleeping besides you.
By the way, if you noticed all these emojis, they show up automatically when I’m using my phone. And the reason I’m using my 📱 is because Bogart caused the destruction of my 🖥. Well, we both destroyed my computer, to be fair.
I will read and reply further later.
🤍 Anita
January 26, 2026 at 1:11 pm in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #454577
anitaParticipantDear Emma:
I am glad 😊 you chose to share the latest with me. I am about to take Bogart (that’s his name) the Beagle (that’s his breed) for a long uphill walk. I will read your messages and reply later. I hope you have a restful night 💤
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHello God:
I wasn’t aware that a group of nearly two dozen Buddhist monks 🧘♂️began a 2,300‑mile walk from Fort Worth, Texas to Washington, D.C., promoting peace, unity, compassion, and national healing, a walk that began October 1, 2025 and is still ongoing, a walk that is expected to end at the White House.
Have you been following the walk on social media or did you come across the monks in person?
Please share what’s been most exciting or moving for you in regard to the walk 🙏
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantI think that it’s encouraging that the psychiatrist didn’t see a need for meds. To me, it means that your mental state is not so bad compared to many people the psychiatrist sees. And that comes from a professional 👍
As to where your fear of intimacy comes from, maybe a little writing ✍️ exercise can help?
You may want to write: “I am afraid that (or of)___”, fill in with whatever comes to mind spontaneously, before thinking.
It may work; it may not. And that’s okay. No pressure is key ☺️
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
This is my final post in your thread (unless you revisit and post here again).
My experience: I was shaped by Childhood Chronic Emotional Neglect, Ongoing Emotional Abuse and the Fawn‑Based Survival Strategy that being chronic and ongoing, led to severe self-erasure.
My body learned long ago: “Mother upset = danger.”, “I am upsetting her= I must disappear.”.
I have carried Conditioned, Programmed Guilt, not moral guilt. I was trained to believe that when she feels badly, it means, I am “bad”, and my job was to become “good” by making her feel good. My nervous system interpreted boundaries with her as wrongdoing, as me being “bad”. So, I didn’t for so long that I was no longer aware of my boundaries.
My identity became fused with making her happy: “I am only valuable if I make her happy”.
I didn’t know who I was outside my dream to make her happy — which is why I had no hobbies, no sense of preference, and no friendships, and why I often felt inauthentic when interacting with people.. too eager to please.
I experienced Enmeshment Trauma- her emotions were like obligations, commands, emergencies. I was never allowed to have emotional boundaries, so saying “no” felt dangerous, disappointing someone feels catastrophic, my mother’s sadness felt like my failure. I felt guilty for having my own life, so I didn’t. This is classic enmeshment.
Her shaming, guilt-tripping and harshly critical voice became internalized.
I was stuck in an “identity void” stage of healing for a decade after I cut contact with her. I felt guilty.
When someone stops performing the role they were assigned in childhood, they enter a period where the old identity is gone, the new identity hasn’t formed. This is the in-between stage of individuation.
My biggest psychological theme has been The Fawn Response as my Primary Survival Strategy. A fawn response is a Trauma‑based Survival Strategy where someone copes with fear, conflict, or emotional threat by people‑pleasing, appeasing, or over‑accommodating others to stay safe. It’s one of the four common trauma responses: Fight, Flight, Freeze and Fawn.
The fawn response develops when a child learns that the safest way to avoid emotional harm is to stay agreeable, avoid conflict, meet others’ needs immediately, suppress one own’s needs, keep the peace at all costs, say yes when one wants to say no, avoid expressing preferences, try to “fix” others’ emotions, fearing disappointing or upsetting anyone, losing one’s sense of identity because one is always adapting.
It usually forms in environments where a parent was unpredictable or emotionally immature, conflict felt dangerous, love or approval was conditional, the child had to manage the parent’s emotions and had learned that their own needs caused trouble. In those situations, being compliant becomes a way to stay safe. It’s a learned survival strategy that once protected the person but can make adult relationships confusing or exhausting.
It’s the nervous system is saying: “If I keep you happy, I won’t get hurt.”
Self‑erasure is when someone gradually loses touch with one own’s preferences, boundaries, identity, desires, one own’s voice
It’s not just suppressing needs — it’s forgetting they exist.
If someone fawns for years — especially starting in childhood — the brain learns: “My needs don’t matter.”, “My feelings cause problems.”, “I’m only safe when I disappear.”, “I exist to keep others stable.”
Over time, the person stops noticing their own inner world. They become whoever the situation needs them to be. That’s self‑erasure.
Fawning = survival strategy Self‑erasure = long‑term consequence
If someone realizes they’re fawning, they can still reconnect with themselves. If someone realizes they’ve erased themselves, the work becomes rebuilding identity, learning preferences, practicing boundaries, and so on.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHmm.. good thing, I suppose- he’s not a psychiatrist that rushes to prescribe meds. And seems that he has confidence in you that you can manage and recover without meds.
anitaParticipantHey Confused:
So, the psychiatrist prescribed something mild for you (“just some compulsions, that perhaps might need something mild for a while if they persist”)?
“He said that my feelings are not gone, just covered by anxiety”- didn’t prescribe anything for anxiety, like an anti-depressant that alleviates anxiety?
“I know I have to stop it (overthinking, intellectualizing) because it numbs me from feeling anything, but it’s hard”-
The more you push or pressure yourself to stop it, the harder it’ll get. If you drop the internal pressure, it’d be so much easier for you.
.. But better not pressure yourself to drop the pressure either 🙂
anitaParticipantOh, so, you felt the pressure to “stop it” and projected it to her? In other words, you thought/ felt “Stop It” and you sort of heard her say it?
anitaParticipantGood morning, Confused:
You wrote yesterday, “I intellectualize everything, so I don’t have to feel them.”-
Intellectualization means * analyzing emotions instead of experiencing them, * turning feelings into thoughts, * staying in the head to avoid the heart, and * using logic to avoid vulnerability. Emotions feel unsafe; thinking feels safer. It’s a common defense mechanism, a survival strategy. But it also blocks emotional processing and healing.
“I intellectualize everything… therapist pointed it out too, told me to stop it.”-
If the therapist literally said, “stop it,” that would be poor practice. A competent therapist would not simply say “stop it.”
Telling someone with an overthinking or intellectualizing pattern to “stop” is oversimplified, ineffective, dismissive of how the brain actually works, and likely to increase shame rather than help.
A good therapist would help someone notice the pattern, understand why it happens, learn alternative ways to regulate, and build tolerance for feelings.
But… (and you can tell me if it’s true, Confused), you may not have quoted the therapist accurately. For example, a therapist might say: “Let’s try to stay with the feeling instead of analyzing it.”, “See if you can pause the analysis and check in with your body.”, “Try not to intellectualize everything — let’s explore the emotion underneath.”
And you might have translated that internally as: “She told me to stop it.” (especially in a moment when you feel frustrated with yourself).
Or the therapist may have been using a quick phrase like “Catch yourself when you start intellectualizing.”, meaning “Let’s interrupt the pattern and try something different.”. But he/ she (if competent) would never mean: “Just stop overthinking. Problem solved.”
Your thoughts (or better 🙂 your feelings about this)?
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantWait, so, I really was powerless. I didn’t fail because I didn’t have a chance to succeed. I only imagined I did.
I was truly powerless. This means I didn’t fail.
I didn’t fail my mother. I loved her so very much, I tried my best, it’s just that my best could never, ever been good-enough. It was just impossible.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantLater, lol 😆, no really, it’s becoming clear to me- for the first time in my life- that it’s not my mother’s fault that she didn’t have confidence in the guidance of her daughter. She needed the guidance of an adult, none that was available to her, or none that she trusted.
So, my efforts to guide her were misguided, the delusion of a truly powerless child.
I have a new understanding of the child that I was: so truly powerless that I had to imagine that I had power I didn’t have: to guide her, to help her, to fix her.. ha-ha, not a chance
I think this is it for tonight. Be back tomorrow.
✨️ Anita
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