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anitaParticipantI am thrilled to get your message, Nichole.. only 13 minutes ago (by the time I submit this message), feeling good to read your words. Only I am not focused enough to thoroughly respond. I will Thurs morning, good night, special, precious Nichole (hope this is no too much..)
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
You are welcome, and thank you for.. being you!
You deserve something better than what you had with SS, something more mature, more trustworthy, something you can rest in, feeling safe.
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anitaParticipantHello Everyone:
I have a question for Peter, but everyone is welcome to answer. I am asking because I am trying to understand.
Peter, you wrote today (in your most recent post): “the moment consciousness split into opposites… self and other.”
Hyenas, for example, chase other hyenas who cross their territory and injure or kill the “other” hyenas. So, to me, it means that they have a concept of the-other, an instinctual concept, not one that’s accompanied by the elaborate thoughts that humans, cognitively evolved, are capable of.
Being that the concept of the-other is so instinctually entrenched in nature (all animal species, I think), and we humans are still an animal species.. How can any human undo or redo pre-human nature and not have a concept of the-other?
Or is non-duality about lessening the frequency and intensity of the concept of “the other” in people whose concept of the-other is.. too much, too often?
If you choose to answer me (I’ll appreciate it π), please explain it in a way you’d explain it to a 5-year-old, without big words and terms..?
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantHello Everyone:
Bad= Harmful.
I was bad= harmful many times when angry.
I forgive myself for all those times- while holding myself accountable for my words & behavior today, tomorrow, and every day moving forward.
*** I need to be careful, to pay attention when I am feeling angry: to-
Do No Harm While Under the Influence of Anger.
I forgive myself for all those times in the past- while holding myself accountable today.
(A relief)
In regard to those irl who had severely harmed me- forgiving them is not my job, not my duty to spend yet.. more time on them.
My focus is on being a good person today and every day, genuinely, sincerely.. truly yours.
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Lily:
You are welcome to use this space to vent your feelings, all of them ππ₯Ίπ’π ππ₯°ππππΆ
Giving all my feelings space to be is an important part of my healing process, not necessarily to act on all of them, but to give them space, let them breathe, so to speak.
But this thread is about your feelings, your healing. I am looking forward to read more from you.
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Q:
I read both your initial posts and I’d like to respond to both here.
“he started to cry and told me that heβs trying so hard to be better because of me. That Iβm his inspiration… why canβt I accept and take this as a compliment?… I feel like Iβm always helping everyone else. I want someone to be there for me to the same extent and with the same understanding that I give.”-
Maybe, just maybe this role of taking care of others started early on in your life, maybe taking care of a parent so that he/ she will be able (once helped enough, once strong enough) to take care of you..?
And you got really good at helping others.. yet the reward (being helped back) didn’t reach you yet?
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Q:
Interestingly, you started this thread exactly 4 months ago, June 15. on that day you wrote: “sheβs starting to feel uncertain about the relationship. It all happened very suddenly, she started withdrawing affection and things just became more distant.”
Later on, you shared that the two of you broke up in July and that you didn’t speak since the breakup.
The sentence that caught my eye the most as I went over your posts was this “Very slowly, my whole world revolved around her” (Sept 22)
Today, you wrote: “A part of me also feels like ‘what if she comes back? then this would look like betrayal'”.
I think that for the part of you that feels the above, she didn’t yet leave.
What if you contact her and ask her if it’s truly over, as far as she is concerned.. if there’s any chance of getting back together..?
I mean, how can you get over such a strong emotional attachment when you don’t really know if it’s over?
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Q::
“More noticeably, I notice myself feeling like ‘Moving on and dating other women feels like Iβm cheating on her.β-
To me, this sounds like .. childhood guilt awakening in an adult- romantic context.
You wouldn’t be cheating on her dating other women. It feels like cheating on her because..?
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantJKPP.. Just Kidding, Push Pull..
anitaParticipantDear Aleesa: You are making a valid point- yes, I did feel that was what she wanted to do (to punch me in the face). I sincerely believe that she chose me as a convenient target for her anger. She was angry, frustrated, wanting to quit for some time before Sunday before last- and there I was, accommodating, eager to please her.. so, she.. used me, really to make her exit.
Dear Peter: “one moment doesnβt define who you are.”- thank you, and yes, this is my point: during that one moment, I was a bad person (challenging her for a fight, and in front of customers). Understanding this was true to that moment frees me from the binary, all or nothing thinking that I’m always bad. Just on that one moment or two..
I have felt calm ever since I labeled myself bad in that moment or two, setting myself free from labelling myself Bad Always, as a permanent state of being. I hope you understand me.
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantThank you for your input, Alessa. I’ll get back to you later. β€οΈ
anitaParticipantDear Nichole:
I just looked back at our communication over the years, the first day you posted and the same day I responded was Aug 21, 2018, that’s.. 7 years 1 month and 24 days ago π€
“I also began reading your entry on diving into your childhood (It Is really good)”- thank you! Anything you want to ask me about what I wrote here, please do (quote my words, so that I’ll know what you’re referring to).
“When I look back at my relationships I often find that I was the clingy one. I cannot just say I gave more and they gave less, it was more like I needed love right then and there as I was deprived of it so I didnβt mind laying down as a doormat for it.”-
Me too. The pattern was: clingy emotions, doormat behavior => angry, lashing out (inwardly or outwardly) and withdrawing. I suppose that’s why I was diagnosed years ago with BPD (I no longer fit the diagnosis).
“More recently, with the last five years of growth, I am less clingy, less desperate and I know myself more and what I like. I try to give others the space to be them without trying to control or romanticize the relationship. But all of this is a work in progress.”-
Excellent job, Nichole, that’s a lot of healing π«β¨πΏβ¨πΈποΈπΌ
“Having my family back in my life was easy and I became lazy with trying to connect. So I do not have much experience as of recently.”- I am not sure that I understand this sentence..?
“What I realized in this group is my expectation for others to take the leap and open their arms to me. I lack initiative in this area and other areas of my life.”- it’d take practice, starting perhaps with imagining yourself reaching out to someone (what would you say, what would you actually do, expression on your face, etc.)
“Well that is my start, I am eager to hear yours.”- Well, Nichole, I’ll start today by saying I really like you, and I am glad that we’re communicating again. I’d like to connect with you more like with a friend, both of us helping each other in this journey of positively connecting with people, one person at a time. With discernment, of course, when and if it’s safe.
Distrust in people prevented me from connecting. I was too sensitive to any sign of rejection or disinterest and reacted with withdrawal and disengagement. I am clearer now, in my mind, about this long-term, lifelong distrust and misperceptions of many people (not of all) in my life. Work in Progress, like you said.
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Nichole:
I am so glad you got back to me!
Not focused now, but will read thoroughly and respond tomorrow morning..!!!
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
If I had read your whole post before leaving the computer, your request for words of comfort, I would have found the time earlier π
Thank you for your empathy, friend. You are a good person π. I am fine now, in this regard.
I think that yours and E’s choices in regard to SS & E are wise.
Yes, I do think that you can attract good mates, have fun relationships and a good career.. nothing perfect, but good-enough. Just keep being honest and courageous. Gradually reveal yourself with new people as you get to know them patiently. No rushing in these matters. One Step At A Time.
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantI want to add: when we suppress our emotions, trying not to feel them, they tend to explode or overwhelm us.. sort of demanding their 3rd dimension/ their space.
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