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May 13, 2025 at 6:36 am in reply to: “He initiated closeness, then disappeared — still hurting months later” #445696
anita
ParticipantHow are you, Adalie?
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ParticipantThinking of you, Laven, and looking forward to hearing from you.
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ParticipantMore: wondering, curious about what might come next, the Truth:
The Truth being that we are all little boys and little girls running in the playground, wanting, needing to be Part Of- Part of the Whole.
It’s Monday night here.
What time is it where you are at?
The ISOLATION, the emotional isolation is the root of all evil- says I.
What do you say?
We are not meant to be isolated, no, not the social species that we are.
What I wrote right above is It, the root of all social ills: the isolation of a social species.
It’d be okay for turtles to be somewhat isolated.
But not for us, humans. We are genetically meant to be Together, which makes Alone very painful, unnatural.
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ParticipantYou are welcome, always, Clara. Tell mw more when you are ready, when you can.
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ParticipantTalking about processing, here I am processing some more-
-Oh, and if you have nothing supportive to say, dear reader, don’t say anything at all. Don’t rain on my parade.
So, processing more because there is so much to process, and because I find it so meaningful, refreshing . Actually, I enjoy it. So, here I go (having no idea what I will be typing next, whatever comes to mind/ heart):
Little anita- I see her round face in a short haircut, I see her like it was only yesterday. Dark brown hair, almost black. I see her eyes, dark brown with a little hazel in it. She has no idea what’s coming.
What’s coming, what..?
She has no idea. She doesn’t know.
The adult mind now has ideas, but little girl anita- she doesn’t know.
What is it, little girl anita, tell me.. please, tell me.
little girl anita says:…
I can’t hear her.
Tell me, tell me, little girl with short black hair, tell me.
She has no words.
Tell me, show me, what is it that you feel, what is the movement within you?
Zooming in on the image of little girl.. she doesn’t know. There is this desert of not-knowing, a desert of desperate alone-ness.
She is Alone.
So, you see, this alone-girl, she doesn’t need you to tell her to get over it.
To get over what?
She doesn’t know. She figures she is irritating you, figuring that something about her is not right with you.
She doesn’t know what it is. All she knows is that she is Alone.
No one For her, No one With her.
So.. do you find it in your heart, one who is reading this, to criticize and pressure this little girl?
I know, I am an adult typing this, but the one I am typing about- is a little girl.
A little girl that was crushed in so many ways by so many of you- Society.
Do you want to further hurt this little girl?
What if you look at everyone as little girls and little boys?
Don’t hurt us no more.
And yes, I don’t want to hurt us either. Let’s be Together in this Alone world of ours. Don’t be Against me. Be For me.
I want to be For you. It’s not about it being Me Or You. It’s about being Me and You, Together.
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ParticipantTelling survivors of severe childhood abuse to “Get Over It” is harmful regardless of the intent of the person saying it.
After all, parents who severely beat their children may have the intent to make their children stronger.. a positive intent, is it?
Intent does not make abusive behavior okay.
People need to process their trauma at their pace and not be pressured or criticized. The pressure and criticism is adding abuse on top of abuse.
If a person feels triggered by reading someone else’s processing (with no mention of the reader, nothing to do with the reader)- the reader should stop reading instead of criticizing.
This is what this thread is about: to support people processing their trauma and to discourage people from interfering with such processing.. regardless of the criticizer’s intent.
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ParticipantDear Clara:
You are welcome, always!
You wrote, “I think I know I have these fearful avoidant attachment style… I would like to share but I am unsure where to start”- I wonder if books on the topic can help you start, maybe “Fearful Avoidant Attachment” by Vincenzo Venezia – it explores the patterns of fearful-avoidant attachment and offers strategies for overcoming relationship struggles..?
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May 12, 2025 at 7:07 pm in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445672anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for your thoughtful response—I truly appreciate the reflection and openness you bring to these conversations. I really like engaging with you too 😊.
I agree with your insight about rejection coming from self-rejection— indeed, how often do we interpret others’ actions as rejection when, beneath it all, we’re already rejecting ourselves first? This is why self-acceptance is so important.
Your words about validating my own needs and supporting myself mean a lot. I’m really glad you shared that because I think personal validation is such an ongoing journey—it’s easy to lose sight of it, and your encouragement reinforces the importance of staying committed to it.
What you said about the bond between a child and their mother struck me too. Have you reflected on what happens to those early bonds in your own experience? How do you think trauma changes them over time?
Also, I really appreciate your openness to adjusting how you communicate. I personally don’t feel you take away from my experience at all—I really value how you bring different perspectives into the discussion. It makes it richer, more layered ❤️
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ParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences—I truly appreciate the depth and honesty in your response.
I completely agree that healing is not a simple, one-size-fits-all process. Everyone’s journey is unique, and what helps one person may not necessarily work for another.
I also appreciate your clarification on “letting go” and how it’s not about repressing emotions. That aligns with my own views as well—healing isn’t about forcefully discarding pain but about finding a way to coexist with it in a way that doesn’t dominate your life.
What you said about people being uncomfortable with vulnerability also makes a lot of sense. It’s true that many times, when people tell someone to “just let go” or “move on,” it’s not always meant to dismiss their pain—it may be more about their own discomfort in witnessing suffering. That’s an important point.
Thank you for contributing such thoughtful perspectives ❤️
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ParticipantDear Suzanne:
Thank you for your kind words—it truly means a lot to me that what I wrote helped you feel even a little more grounded. You are going through an incredible loss, and it’s understandable that feelings of grief, anger, and longing still arise, especially when you reflect on the past 30 years with his family. Another layer of goodbye, another piece of hurt. But I’m glad to hear that your daughter and friends are supporting you—because they are the ones who truly see and appreciate you for who you are.
You mentioned getting stuck in the “what ifs” and expectations of what his family should do. That makes perfect sense—your connection to them was part of your world for decades, and the silence now can feel like rejection. But here’s something to consider:
When we hold onto ideas of what should be, we create suffering because reality is showing us something different. They should reach out, you think. They should care more. But they are not. And that isn’t a reflection of your worth—it’s a reflection of their choices, their priorities, their own limitations.
What happens when you gently allow yourself to let go of these expectations? It doesn’t mean the pain vanishes, but it means you stop directing your energy toward a door that has already closed. Instead, you can focus on the ones that remain open—the love from your daughter, the support from friends, the quiet yet powerful strength growing within you.
I wanted to find books that might be helpful for you, so I researched titles that focus on healing, acceptance, and emotional resilience. Here are some that I came across:
* Radical Acceptance: Embracing Your Life with the Heart of a Buddha by Tara Brach (on how to release inner resistance and embrace life as it is).
* The Wisdom of No Escape by Pema Chödrön (on facing discomfort and finding strength in the present moment).
* How to Be Loving by Danielle LaPorte (on softening self-judgment and nurturing self-compassion).
* Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender by David R. Hawkins (on emotional release and how to stop holding onto pain)
* Self-Compassion: The Proven Power of Being Kind to Yourself by Kristin Neff (on replacing self-criticism with kindness and understanding).
If any of these resonate with you, they may be worth exploring.
About letting go of pain- it isn’t about forcing it away—it’s about processing it, understanding it, and slowly releasing its grip on you. Here are some meaningful steps that can help:
1. Instead of resisting or denying how you feel, allow yourself to sit with the emotions. Recognizing them without self-criticism is the first step toward healing.
2. Often, pain lingers because of the meaning we give it, such as that it will never end, or that we deserved it. Ask yourself: Is this story helping me heal, or is it keeping me stuck?
3. Treat yourself as you would a close friend going through the same situation. Instead of replaying regrets or self-blame, try affirming: “I am human. I am allowed to hurt. But I am also allowed to heal.”
4. Pain often keeps us locked in the past—thinking about what was, what could have been. Ground yourself in the present with mindfulness, activities that engage your senses, or simply reminding yourself: “I am here, right now.”
5. Not all pain comes with a perfect resolution. Sometimes, we have to accept what happened without waiting for an apology or a final understanding. Closure is something you can choose and create for yourself.
6. Social media, certain conversations, places, or routines might keep reopening the wound. If something constantly pulls you back into the pain, try setting boundaries around it until you feel stronger.
7. Whether it’s writing, therapy, meditation, movement, art, or deep conversations with trusted people, allow yourself to express and process what you feel in ways that nourish you.
8. Letting go isn’t a single moment—it’s a series of choices, small shifts, and gentle reminders to release pain little by little. There is no rush, only movement forward.
Suzanne, you are not alone in this. I’m always here to talk if you want to share more. Sending you warmth and strength today. 💙
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ParticipantDear Jason:
Thanks for posting. I actually replied to James the same day he posted back in November 2020 (see above) but he did not post since. I would love for him to return and share more—but if he doesn’t, and if you’re comfortable, you’re also welcome to share your story here or start a new thread of your own. Whatever feels right for you!
Looking forward to hearing more about your experience if you choose to share.
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ParticipantDear Clara:
Good to read from you again 😊. I can feel the weight of everything you’ve been carrying lately—loss, rejection, self-doubt, and the emotional exhaustion of trying to hold yourself together while facing so many changes. It makes sense that all of this would hit hard, especially since it connects to old wounds you’ve been working through for years.
On the positive side, congratulations for:
* Seeing a therapist to organize your thoughts and emotions.
* Recognizing Instagram is harmful and choosing grounding alternatives.
* Expressing your emotions through writing, helping you process and regulate them better.
Because you mentioned an ex you dated more than 10 years ago, I revisited your threads from May 31, 2016 (“Break up after massive tantrums, because my Ex cheated on me with my best friend”) and June 23, 2016 (“Moving on- anger management and sense of security”). Reading through them again, I see how complex and painful this experience was for you.
We discussed your attachment style just a bit in June 2024, but not back in 2016. Looking at our earliest communication, it seems that your attachment style has been Fearful-Avoidant (Disorganized) Attachment—meaning you’ve experienced conflicting desires for closeness and independence.
This push-pull dynamic shaped your relationship:
* You wanted connection but felt suffocated when she needed too much closeness.
* You feared losing her when she was distant but felt trapped when she relied too heavily on your approval.
* You struggled with deep fears of abandonment, which made letting go so painful after the breakup.
Meanwhile, your ex likely had an Anxious-Preoccupied Attachment—she needed constant reassurance, sought your validation, and often felt rejected even when you didn’t intend to push her away. When she felt uncertain about your relationship, she turned to someone else (your friend) instead of addressing issues directly.
Your contributions to the breakup:
* Emotional distance & blunt criticism – At times, you dismissed her sensitivity, and your directness hurt her.
* Struggled with commitment – You admitted you weren’t fully invested at first, which may have made her feel uncertain.
* Control & impatience – Instead of accepting her, you often tried to “fix” aspects of her behavior.
* Intense emotional reactions after the betrayal – Your understandable anger, accusations, and distrust made reconciliation impossible.
Her contributions to the breakup:
* Seeking external validation instead of addressing issues – She turned to someone else rather than working through doubts within the relationship.
* Emotional dependency – She relied too heavily on your approval, making you feel pressured.
* Blaming you for her pain – She shifted the emotional burden onto you, instead of taking full accountability.
* Immediately moving on – Instead of allowing space for healing, she entered a relationship with your former friend, deepening your heartbreak.
The Paradox of Fearful-Avoidant Attachment: Inside the relationship, one feels suffocated by a partner’s emotional dependence. Closeness feels overwhelming, triggering a desire for space and control. Outside the relationship, one feels abandoned, craving the comfort of knowing someone deeply cares. Essentially, you struggle between wanting love but fearing the vulnerability that comes with it.
When you are in a love relationship, it feels too much—but when you lose it, you are devastated.
Fast Forward 9 Years- your recent experiences highlight the deep influence of fearful-avoidant attachment—longing for security but feeling trapped when closeness becomes overwhelming. These patterns don’t just appear in romantic relationships; they also affect friendships and even your relationship with your cats.
Your friend cutting ties triggered deep rejection and abandonment fears, reinforcing the painful belief: “Am I so bad that everyone leaves me?”. Even though your ex left years ago, seeing her with someone else still stirs old insecurities—not because you want her back, but because it reawakens feelings of rejection.
You wonder “What if she came back?”—but deep down, you also know you wouldn’t want that.
Your doubts about adopting your cats reflect the same emotional conflict you’ve had in relationships—you love them, but also fear being stuck with them.
This mirrors the way you’ve wanted closeness in relationships but also feared being “stuck” or suffocated.
Personally, I’ve struggled with the same attachment style as you, and maybe even more so. I understand how difficult it can be to navigate these patterns and the emotional push-pull they create. If you’d like to talk more about it, I’d be happy to explore this together 💙
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ParticipantI don’t expect you, Laven, to talk to me directly, as in addressing me by my name and saying something to me, but it would be a dream come true if you did. We have more in common than you know, more than I have the courage to share- in regard to loss of autonomy and agency. I understand if talking to me directly feels scary. This is why our “Ty” is good-enough for me.
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May 11, 2025 at 8:22 pm in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445630anita
ParticipantMy space, My thread, My Story. Anita’s Story.
Anita’s Story has been about My Mother’s Story. She has Placed Her Story Center-stage in my life early on, since my first few years of life.
With her gone from center stage, there on stage is me. Being new on center stage, I am scared that a member in these forums, reading my words, will spot me and attack me, simply because this is what I am used to: being attacked, humiliated, pushed away to the margins, or just harshly ignored by someone loud, dominant, aggressive or just indifferent.
I am scared of people. But I will continue to claim center stage in my life. Fear and Courage Coexist in Me.
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