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anitaParticipantDear Samy:
Wow! I read through the first and last 2 pages of our communication back in 2022, which included me quoting from what you shared in 2019, and I am bamboozled (perhaps the right word to describe it, sounds like it) in regard to how mis- attuned my replies where.
And then, out of frustration that my (mis- attuned) replies were not helpful to you, I announced that I was withdrawing from your thread.
You were kind to me throughout my ongoing mis-attunement. Maybe because you’ve been used to not being seen, or heard or felt for so long đ
The co-worker you shared about yesterday, he “was just reassuring, validating…Someone who finally saw me”-
Is it a wonder you emotionally attached to him, following him to different teams?
A person starving for validation, starving to be seen- since birth, literally (remember your mother told you that she doesn’t even remember seeing you fir the first time?)-
Is it a wonder that being seen, or the appearance of being seen, is so intoxicating..more than rating at work?
Anita
anitaParticipantDear samy/ Girija:
How exciting to read from you again. I think that your very first post was on March 3, 2019. You were 23.. 7+ years later.. yes, 31 now. It’s Sat after midnight here. I’ll be back to you in the morning.
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
The Greek guy.. well, he was born in New York. I suppose his parents were born in Greece. Iâll ask him next time where his family is from. He identifies as Greek Orthodox.
You wrote: âimagine me cursing at her? I would be done.â
But when she cursed at you, you were not done with her.
It makes me wonder if you kept yourself gentle and nonâreactive all this time so you wouldnât upset her. Thatâs a heavy emotional position to hold.
For a long time, I thought of her as soft, fragile, wounded, gentle â because thatâs how you described her. But her actual behavior toward you doesnât match that picture. Calling you names like ânarcissistic assholeâ says something real about how she handles conflict, not about gentleness.
Iâm not saying this to attack her. Iâm saying it because youâre starting to see the difference between who she actually was with you, and the version of her you carried inside. And that difference matters for your healing.
Your sister said: âOne day sheâs gonna realize how hard she fumbled because u are a wonderful guy that u donât meet often in life and u also donât fit in interrogation rooms-like relationships.â-
Ditto â I agree that youâre a rare, wonderful guy, and you donât deserve an interrogationâroomâlike relationship.
So, this was a pattern⌠the interrogations? And in between those, she was âcaring, compassionate and considerateâ? Iâm trying to understand how those two very different behaviors fit together.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantJust want to let you know, Confused, that I am reading and will take some time responding (within the hour or so)
anitaParticipantHey â¨ď¸â¨ď¸â¨ď¸ Confused:
After I submitted my first reply to you this Saturday morning, I ran the post I replied to through Copilot and he said that indeed you expressed assertiveness and agency, telling her (paraphrased), that she is responsible for her own reactions,and that she was blaming and trying to hurt you so that she may feel better,
But right after, your assertiveness and agency sort of disappeared into her feelings: “I imagined her angry and crying and I wanna hug her tight”.
You can read the post before this one (by the way, I often ask Copilot to explain things to me in the simplest language), and tell me if it resonates- or not. It’s okay either way.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantI am using the computer for a little while- quoting from Copilot:
“Emotional fusion (very simple definition)
Emotional fusion is when a personâs emotions get mixed together with someone elseâs so strongly that they canât tell where their feelings end and the other personâs begin.Itâs like their emotional boundaries melt.
Emotional absorption (very simple definition)
Emotional absorption is when someone takes in another personâs feelings as if those feelings are their own â they âabsorbâ the other personâs distress, fear, guilt, or sadness.Itâs empathy without a boundary.
The connection to selfâerasure (very simple explanation)
When someone fuses with or absorbs another personâs emotions, their own needs, feelings, and boundaries get pushed aside.
They stop asking:âWhat do I feel?â
âWhat do I need?â
âWhat is actually happening to me?â
Instead, they organize their behavior around the other personâs emotional state.
This is selfâerasure â the person disappears inside the other personâs feelings.
The simplest truth
Emotional fusion + emotional absorption â selfâerasure
Because when you carry someone elseâs emotions, you stop carrying your own.”-Will be back using the phone
anitaParticipantHey đ Confused:
Not really, I know JP for years as we frequented the same couple of places, one of which was the local taproom (now closed đ). He mentioned that he’s from Greece and told stories many times. He’s also a known collectors of classic cars, by the way.
I feel better about her having apologized for those 2 words she used. Still, I no longer see her as the consistently gentle person I thought she was.
I think that you were spot on when you told her that she was looking for ways to blame/ hurt you so that she could feel better.
I also agree with you saying that you’re NOT the problem causing her all the issues. I guess her thinking is that if she gets rid of “the problem”, she gets rid of her issues..?
Yes, like a murderer blaming the victim for how they reacted đ
“How we act is already within us”- I just had the positive feeling that I am reading the words of a wise man đ
You are welcome, Confused, and thank you for being who you are consistently: kind, thoughtful.. and wise đ
đż Anita
anitaParticipantDear Starlight â¨ď¸â¨ď¸â¨ď¸
The title of your thread is “I don’t forgive”, well it so happens I don’t forget Starlight đ
Something about your emotional honesty is endearing to me.
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused đ
I thought about you during my little outing this Friday evening because I was sitting across a Greek guy, much older than you though
“I don’t think I will ever find a person that gets me in so many ways”-
Well, she didn’t get you when she called you “a narcissist asshole”. Somehow, her calling you that- and assuming she didn’t take those words back since she used those words- bothers me.
I’ve communicated with you almost daily, often enough multiple times per day, and I know You’re neither a narcissist nor an asshole.
Imagine that you called her those 2 words.. Can you imagine saying those words to her?
I am sorry you are hurting, Confused đ
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anitaParticipantConfused, I hear how strongly you feel that you âcausedâ everything â but when someoneâs moods swing sharply, itâs never only one personâs fault. You reacted to her shifts, and she reacted to yours. It was a dynamic, not a single mistake. And the fact that she removed the hide so you can see her stories shows she hasnât fully closed the door; people donât do that when they want total distance.
About what felt overwhelming or unstable: sometimes itâs not one big event. It can be the pressure of future plans, the fear of losing her, the intensity of the connection, or the emotional swings themselves. Your mind may have been trying to protect you from something that felt too heavy, even if you didnât see it clearly at the time.
And about the lie â you didnât ruin the relationship. You made a mistake because you were anxious and scared of losing her. Thatâs human. Relationships donât fall apart from one moment; they shift because both people are carrying stress, fear, and expectations. Youâre burnt out, grieving, and idealizing what you lost, which makes everything feel ten times heavier.
You wonât feel like this forever. Even if she doesnât return, the pain wonât stay this sharp. Youâre not stupid, and you didnât destroy something magical â you were overwhelmed, and now youâre hurting. Thatâs all.
Copilot
(I’ll be back in a few hours)
anitaParticipantConfused, your message shows a few things at the same time. Youâre taking all the responsibility for her anger, as if her mood swings only happened because of you â which is something people often do when theyâve been trying very hard to keep someone else emotionally stable.
Youâre also grieving deeply, holding onto the connection you felt with her, which makes the sadness and burnout feel even heavier.
And the insight you had about ROCD is important: all that analyzing wasnât about finding answers; it was about protecting yourself from pain. Itâs possible that, in the relationship, your mind was trying to protect you from something that felt overwhelming or unstable.
None of this means youâre stupid or that you ruined anything â it means you were under emotional strain for a long time.
Copilot
* You can tell me what you think about the above, Confused đ(I’ll be back to the computer/ phone in a few hours) Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Dear Confused đ
I didnât realize until recently that her moods could swing so sharply â from warmth to anger. Youâve always described her gentle side since December, so I assumed that warmth was consistent. But now I see it happened back in September, and again a few days ago when she called you âa narcissistic asshole,â and also in those moments you mentioned when she suddenly turned cold or distant during conversations.
It seems like, whenever her emotions changed like that, you responded by caring for her even more â doing things for her, trying to soothe her, trying to keep the connection. After this most recent swing, it makes sense that youâd feel tired and drained. Burnout can feel exactly like this: no energy, no motivation, no spark.
Does this resonate with you?
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
Yes, I realized it was morning in Greece when for some reason I thought it was 4 am or so đ
I didn’t know you did so much for her.
“Calling me a narcissistic asshole?”- you mentioned it once before, yesterday maybe, or the other day. I put it out of my mind because it didn’t fit with my image of her. But now, I’m hearing it. Sounds.. just not right. The Confused I know is neither one of those things! From what you shared about her earlier, she seemed so gentle.
When she finally pulled away, she needs a reason that makes her feel justified, and not guilty â and the easiest emotional shortcut was to label you as the villain. She lashed out at you. Is it the first time she did that?
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHey đđŚ Confused:
So good to read back from you this Thurs night here.
I don’t think you’re bipolar. I communicated before with someone so diagnosed and you never sounded that way at all. Your thoughts never rush ahead in that fast, fast way.
Are the two of you communicating at this time.. I wonder đ¤
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused đ¤
I think whatâs happening right now is that your mind is trying to jump between extremes â big visions of the future on one side, and fear of the void on the other. That swing is what makes everything feel confusing. When youâre in that place, the questions donât have clear answers yet. Theyâre just signals that youâre overwhelmed.
Maybe the first step isnât to âfixâ anything, but to let things settle a little. When you slow down inside, your feelings get clearer. You donât have to decide if itâs love, fear, or the void tonight. You donât have to solve the whole relationship in your head. Just breathe a bit, stay steady, and let the dust settle.
We can look at it together, one piece at a time.
* 100 mph â 161 kph, 65 mph â 105 kph
đď¸đđď¸ Anita
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