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Adrian GallardoParticipant
I find it kind of funny that just yesterday I was tying in the chicken or the egg question with how things have been, finding the origin of what went wrong, than you came along and posted the same thing that came to mind. And it’s true, you don’t go into everything with intention, yet going into everything you sometimes end up with intentions with how to move forward. Calm assertive is something I’ve always been, it’s just instinct I guess, to understand boundaries when I have to and go about it calmly, surely things are different so sometimes you won’t always know limits or boundaries or wont be so calm in that moment, which is something I realized was affected by this ordeal. I’m not very sure in regards to what you’re saying but I think I understand. You won’t know who, what, where, but you’ll know the chicken and the egg exist, so as long as you know that, it becomes meaningless to find out which came before. Just like how every moment, you don’t dig deep into who, what, where, but you know what’s happening or aware that you don’t understand what’s happening, etc. Regardless, I might need to re read what you said, just to understand it better. As above, so below/As below, so above, I like that, thanks for your input!
Adrian GallardoParticipantI’ll definitely keep posting, what you said was very valuable, to remember that it was inflicted on you. Remembering how my childhood I see how that still affects me again even though I came out on top before, by having confidence in myself and fearing nothing. But this time around, my mind was turned against me, and sure enough the idea that I did something bad and the only way to fix it was dwell into my psyche, but really it was not a matter of morality or beliefs, it was anger consuming me and making me oblivious to what I was putting myself through, because I believe in myself to the point where I believed I could function on will power, confidence, H channeling my anger positively. That’s where I messed up, and it hurt, because I believed that the wrongs that happen to you are something you must know, but really, even things like that aren’t always something you’ll know clearly, thankfully I do, thankfully my life is something that I can coordinate, thankfully my mistakes are something I can bounce back from, thankfully I never lost faith that things will better, not today, not tomorrow, not next week, but I’ll never stop trying to make things better.
That song you listened to, Illusions, I think I understand what the man is saying. About “you,” that you don’t exist, but you do exist, which revolves around the theme of duality, that “you” don’t give approval to breathe, to think, for your heart to beat, that is not in your control. That doesn’t mean you are controlled by those things, because control is dominance, and your body, your mind, your soul, don’t control each other, they work together, you are you’re own union, the holy trinity. You can’t control or take control, only work together, and care for each aspect that makes you, you. So no, “you” don’t exist, just you.Adrian GallardoParticipantThis cycle stop affecting me once I decided I don’t want to stay the same, once I realized what I really wanted was change, for myself, for my family, for everything around me. I stopped thinking and started acting, I set out to do things that made me happy, with confidence in myself and what I CAN become, not what I COULD become. I changed the way I saw things, I took control of my life by standing alongside my mind, my body, my soul. The cycle stopped affecting me once I saw it as a straight line that I can direct, because our lives aren’t cycles, and they never will be.
Adrian GallardoParticipantYelling, being on my toes, being talked down, judged, unsupported, being set up to fail. The fights weren’t the only thing but what are more prominent on my mind, they seem to be where I felt the most anxious and reflect in moments laying down and waking up to other noises and feeling anxious, as if something were to happen. It may be imaginary but I know it is a scar from what happened in the past, everything seems to be deeply raveled around hatred and anger. The cycle of hate and anger, of mental and emotional pain, depression and anxiety, weight and appearance, abuse of power, the cycle that continues every day, every week, every month, every year.
Adrian GallardoParticipantThat’s actually what I did, day dreaming about what the future holds gave me hope and motivation, video games gave me a peace of mind because I was with friends or just doin something I liked. However video games sucked me out reality, understandably it distracted me from other things and became an escape with no solution when I returned to the world around me. Nowadays it becomes an escape an afterwards gives me peace of mind to handle what I must in the real world. I still daydream and do the things I used to but they weren’t enough to help me now. Either way, before it became this bad it was very good, I guess this was just an all time low waiting patiently to cloud my sky’s, so when things go back the way they were it will feel even greater. I’m going to take CBT, but I’m not going to tell my family until after, I know they are the source, and I have to do something before the cycle continues onto my nephew.
Adrian GallardoParticipantOften, I can remember two distinct memories where it first happened to get physical, both I was laying in a bed or watching tv, I didn’t know what to do, I was scared but I still got up to tell my dad. I was 12 at the time. Thing is anxiety never tested me in me the way it does now, I don’t know, it never got in my way like it does now.
Adrian GallardoParticipantI have come to the conclusion that I overstrained, without rest I kept pushing myself without any limit. Anxiety affected me beforehand, I would wake up on weekend mornings anxious because years back I experienced trauma just laying in bed and having my sister get in physical fights with her boyfriend. I was a kid, but that shaped entirely how I saw them. But overtraining made the anxiety worse, the whole thing was the epitome of how you described anxiety @anita, searching for a danger that is not clear or not even existent, searching and searching for something that never was, although anxiety is a problem, it wasn’t the problem the thinking mind, my mind, pictured it to be. I also have other issues that are apart of being human, insecurities, confidence issues, etc. Issues that are more apparent are vision issues, and normal body discomforts, and that is separate from my anxiety, two separate problems.
At least that’s the way I see it, plus improving diet and rest, etc.Adrian GallardoParticipantI can’t relate to that, but I can relate and understand the way you explained the fight or flight response being bottled inside you, and as a reprecussion affected your body. Somehow, arguing and standing up for myself felt like a release, reading what you wrote solidified it . Screams and loud voices, fighting and demeaning words all made me feel anxious, with no release and no way to win or strength to fight back, I became self deprecating and my confidence was at an all time low, this carried on for years, but it never rose to question because I always had sources of happiness to look forward. Only as a teen was I able to really analyze and experience self inquiry, and I was able to change. But besides that, I have questions about anxiety, can it affect how you think, does it necessarily mean you’re afraid of something, and can it be wired in your brain?
Adrian GallardoParticipantIt is very helpful, it does give me a lot of insight on what does affect me. I don’t know, I don’t feel like I’m trying to focus on it, it just happens. I notice I get tense a lot even when I feel fine and when I do I just let go. And one more question, if it’s ok to ask, how can anxiety express itself as Tourette’s? Please, I would feel much better hearing from someone than a blog or news article, somebody with empathy rather than science.
Adrian GallardoParticipantIt may be best to seek help. I feel the discomfort in certain areas like my eyes or jaw then I get anxious/panic about why it happened and who caused it, me or “me.” Me as in the involuntary, functional body that operates without my command. Or me, the conscious person that panics and starts to try and readjust what seems out of the normal due to the fear of things being bad or more than what I think. I feel the discomfort, and without an answer I continue to try and take control out of fear that I need to intervene because it was me. But I just remind myself that even if it’s me or just my body signaling something, it goes away naturally, and me trying to change or adjust makes it worse, so although I do put focus on it when I feel anxious, I know it’s real and I’m just making it worse.
By the way this just started happening, and I read up on overtraining, and I think that was the way in, I just need to find a way out, because if there’s a way in, there’s a way out.Adrian GallardoParticipantYou’re very strong.
I don’t think I have OCD, but since you do, can it be hereditary, I think my mom has it. I always find her cleaning the smallest things, cleaning, and cleaning. I read somewhere that stress and worry can cause genes to “turn on.” And there’s this one instance that I just remembered, smoking weed and having a panic attack. The first time it ever happened to me, and I understand things like OCD take time to develop, but it can’t just happen out of nowhere, so it can’t be it, I just have trouble believing some things because of all the thinking I’ve done. If you’re into rap I would recommend listening to that album as a whole,Adrian GallardoParticipantThe anxiety, the intrusive thoughts, how you obsessed, etc.
Adrian GallardoParticipantI have a couple questions for you @anita.
Did you already hear that album or after the fact?
When you say you suffered from OCD and your jaws clenching, how long did it last, the dominant effects?
And if you would like to know more you can ask, I’m open to anything, and as for the psychotherapy, I’ll tell my doctor about what happened so we can go from there together.
I don’t feel anxious but sometimes thoughts about my jaw or eyes come and go, sometimes I feel like if I don’t get to bottom as to why I was comfortable with my eyes it would happen again. Sometimes I think that I actually do have problems but being in that anxious state makes me feel like it’s something more than astigmatism or the fact that I sleep on my side and keep my jaw locked when I rest my head/chin on my hand. Besides that I heard therapy was expensive, and I don’t think I am at the point where I need extensive help, just advice from others in a place that can.Adrian GallardoParticipantI agree.
I wasn’t trying to please my parents by not doing what I loved, I just felt like no matter what I did they would be there, my shadow. But this is behind me, I forgave them, and decided to lead by example.
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Over the summer I felt the negativity again, self doubt crept in, and I turned inward to find the answer. Mixed with pain due to vision and anxiety due to fear of not knowing what’s happening to me, I ruminated daily, I questioned everything, at one point I felt like nothing, completely nothing, and that nothing had meaning because there would be something to question it soon after. I would type notes daily, but I found release by crying, accepting that I felt weak again, that was the first step I took to better myself. Everything I felt would go into questioning, I felt like I was going crazy. But throughout all that I craved my parents and their unconditional love I once felt as a child, and it helped, but I couldn’t shake the thoughts, and I went down a self destructive path to fight them, which gave them more power. Afterwards I applied methods used on people with OCD, because it did feel like that’s what it was, but it wasn’t as bad as other may have it. I accepted thoughts, and I acknowledged the anger I felt, that it wasn’t small, it was huge. I almost forgot to say, this all happened after I threw away the keys that my sisters boyfriend needed to go work because he came home drunk in the middle of the night, that’s also another big thing too, the hate I felt towards him for being a piece of shit. And that day my ego set in and made that that choice, and ever since that day things were terrible. Because that’s not me.Adrian GallardoParticipant@anita
I do agree, it was quite scary to have self doubt manifest itself in my head as my family. To this day I don’t know if some things I’m doing to myself, such as my jaw, I feel like I clench of rest it with my teeth touching, so I start to focus on it, and after I readjust my focus the discomfort lasts, and I start to wonder if I’m doing it to myself by thinking about it, almost like taking away control by trying to make it normal or comfortable again out of fear? -
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