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Thanks for the understanding and kind words. Reading my old threads and most of your comments I’ve noticed surprisingly similar stories between you and me. For example you had an overbearing mother, ocd at a young age and a sense of being an outcast and it’s very similar to what I experienced since I developed a full blown ocd at 16 as well. Do you feel it’s more easy now to build relationships with other? If yes what caused the change? I think what personally pains me in relation with others is that most often I can’t help but feel taken by intense overwhelming uncomfortableness, cringeness, discomfort. Sometimes it’s very very strong, even if it’s small talk or things like that. Like I just don’t have chemistry or way to connect to the other next to me and the overall vibe or what I feel is intense cringeness
GaiaParticipantI’m ok with any kind of question on me, however I’m afraid that I will not always succeed in being 100% honest because of shame or embarrassment that it would make me feel (let’s hope not). I’m also fearing that i showed up unwillingly aggressive on these threads or that I’m making myself somewhat disliked, I hope it’s not what happened
GaiaParticipantWhat you said about proper socializing being about being seen, heard and basically acknowledged is what hit me the most. That’s how I could sum up my negative feelings about my socializing experiences so far that I couldn’t exactly pin point before: not truly feeling like I’m seen, heard, met, most of the time.. almost being like an object. This happened to me a lot, or at least, that’s how I’ve been feeling, at school, in teams, often also in family. I guess that’s why I’m so sensitive to feeling left out or people being indifferent to me triggers me a fucking lot.
GaiaParticipantI’m sorry if I’m making this conversation somewhat uncomfortable for you too, it’s not what I wanted to accomplish
but yes, what you said about my mother is true. And yes, my socializing history is a big painful mess, and a huge source of suffering for me cause besides a tiny group of friends that I’ve a bit outgrown, I was never truly successful at making friends. As you already know, I have encoutered episodes of bullyism and shame/embarassment triggers that still make me very uncomfortable anytime I have to interact with someone. I have lots of resentment towards some of my peers who treated me with coldness or indifference, and I have a history of feeling jealous and envious of others. I can be quite talkative and I can look spontaneous with others but often I feel like others can’t help but feel coldness or detachment from me or that I trigger people the wrong way, I don’t know
I like your analysis. How do you think I should help myself?
GaiaParticipantWhy do you feel like I’m not into elaborating? Forgive me if I may give a closed off impression but lately I do enjoy opening up about my struggles, I’m careful about the words I use cause I don’t want to make my mother look like some kind of evil narcissist that she isn’t also
By the way, the reason she didn’t allow was because I was not going with people I already knew, as far as I can remember, and because she didn’t want to give me the money to take the tickets as soon as they were available. I had found some peers that were going but she just blocked me, and this pissed me off greatly, I gave both of my parents silent treatment for at least 1 week.
GaiaParticipantshe was just waiting in her bedroom but throwing a scene as I come home, yelling that I come home at the same hour she should wake up to go work,
GaiaParticipantsurely I have some resentment and negative feelings towards my family as a whole, but also I’m angry at myself, at some of my life/story circumstances, some of my friends also.. but I would be pretty glad to explore that anger as you suggest.
about the events.. it really left an impression on me how some musicians (that were REALLY matterful) to me just came in my country for very first times and I looked forward to it even as a changing point in my life because at that point it was really miserable (I was just silently battling again with my mental health) and I needed something in real life that could motivate me to feel alive and change truly.. however they didn’t allow me to go, she also made it about her parading how she works hard for us and that we shouldn’t talk back to her, I rarely go out of my town and I looked forward even as a chance to take some fresh air and bond with people that finally had some common interests but my parents almost couldn’t care less about it oh well fuck them
She also make drama queen scenes whenever it happened that either me or my sister came home too late in isolated occasions, crying and making it about her. It frightened me so much that I never come home too late again unless I explicited it to her before leaving
- This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by Gaia.
GaiaParticipantyes we live together but in a pretty peaceful way.. maybe because we’re no longer very close and I have certain walls up when it comes to her. However I dread spending time alone with her, I just have this irrational repulsive feeling at the idea that she might try to do deep conversations or inquire about me, even if with simple good intentions, I don’t like it. I guess it’s because I don’t like her to inquire about me psychologically. I also low key resent her for making me less carefree in my young years compared to my peers by preventing me from attending certain events or situations that could only bring me joy
GaiaParticipantYes. Sometimes I feel like I was born angry or easily triggered by seeing injustices. I remember pulling my dolls hair in spite or getting angry over seeing injustices in tv ecc
GaiaParticipantI admit that at the time I stopped the conversation cause talking about my mother being potentially distressing was a trigger for me, but now I’ve come to terms with the fact that she indeed is.
Anyway, I’m not exactly sure that watching my mother being troubled as a child is what triggered my sense of being victim of injustice. It’s something I Always felt, for sure
GaiaParticipantDear Gaia:
I am trying to understand: you wrote that you never talked about people offending your mother, talked to whom?
I meant here in this thread, I never mentioned that my mother lamenting in my childhood was about people offending her (I meant, she lamented her hard work, health stuff like this, mostly and yes, her being easily offended and taking things personally can be included too but now I wasn’t talking about this) and my reactivity towards injustice so, wasn’t about her being offended by people but it was general, I was easily annoyed, angered, if I ever catched what I considered an injustice it moved me, I also have a bad confrontational side and so I linked to some childhood episodes of mine in which I could easily get into confrontations or fights (it happened also I was bullied by a peer)
I hope it makes sense, if not, let me know
GaiaParticipantNo.
I never talked about “people offending my mother” only about her being sensitive and somewhat self-pitying
Me getting into confrontations and having a angry streak wasn’t About her because I was mostly talking about my peers and how reactive I was/am in GENERAL not related to my mother (or not only)
I hope I’m been more clear:)
GaiaParticipantIt’s kind of as you stated. Also since ever I remember, I’m pretty short-fused and easy to annoy/anger, I was also a big justice fighter (it’s something I have innate in me) I’m Always prone to speak up so sometimes even thought I don’t want I can get into confrontations, as a Young girl I happened sometimes to clash with peers, once one girl bullied me.
GaiaParticipantI mean.. she Always worked and brought food to table, so (even like, Christmas time and stuff like that) she was not constantly daily present, I think this affected me the way any child would be affected if their mother was away for work.. I mean, it affects you somehow. Maybe I also looked at other kids who happened to have their mother fully present home and (apparently) Always light-hearted and felt some envy and longing
- This reply was modified 6 years, 6 months ago by Gaia.
GaiaParticipant“extra sensitive” because she’s emotional, attuned to Others feelings and on the bad side, touchy. She’s easily moved to tears
“victimist” it links to touchy. She’s emotionally expressive and on the bad side, overwhelming, lamenting and self-pitying, and so it links to “easily offended” she can take personally even things that don’t revolve around her.
I’m now starting to comprehend that the main issue with my mom about childhood was that she was often absent for work, ever since I was very little. She was caring when she was home, but even tired or “dramatic” in emotional expressions, I think this instilled a certain anxiety or heaviness in me, I’m touchy and emotional on my own ways too
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