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  • in reply to: Does he like me? #407359
    Katrine Nielsen
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    Hi Tee,

    Yes looking at it from that point of view definitly helps. I have learned a whole lot this year and still learning. I know that when you nervous system gets dysregulated you can’t act apropiatly because your brain is only focused on keeping you safe. I know i still react (shut ting down, pushing people away) instead of responding (regulating myself before making any decisions).

     

    I am slowly getting back to my baseline after the “date” i now i am noticing some details i think i missed then.

    So after the session and a couple of hours of talking he went i think it’s time to go eat something, what are you doing for the rest of the day? I felt rejected like maybe he wanted me to leave. I said go home and eat as well. Then when we left the park we got to a street with lot’s of restaurants and he went you have to try a turkish restaurant one day (his familie is turkish) feeling down i replied I yeah maybe i will one day. He went like that one right across the street from us that’s turkish. Maybe it was his way of trying to get me to join them. Thinking on how he reacted the day he asked me to go to pub with him just the two of us. Back then he didn’t say hey wanna grab a beer. He asked so what’s your plans for tonight? (establishling that i was free) then he said oh I really cold beer would be good, I agreed (indicating i would be up for going some where) he didn’t ask me until right before we had to go our separate ways so maybe he was trying to get the courage to ask me?

     

    Regarding the whole living in my capital. A month an A half ago he came up to me after work and got a beer he asked me if i could see myself living in other countries. Odd question to just ask a colleague (unless you like them and are moving a road) he also asked what my future plans were, which i replied staying here and then going to live in my capital. Sorry for the long post but the more i talk about it the better i feel.

    Every time we came to a standstill my approach was to just go back to square one and talking like friends.

     

     

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407343
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Hi Tee,

    Yes i liked him but the fear of intamacy almost scared me away that’s why i had to force myself. It sounds bad but it ended up being the most safe and stable thing i have ever tried. A true gentleman we were together for three months then his visa expired. And that was hard, finally got some love and amazing experiences and then it stopped out of my control.

     

    Yes we talked a bit today and he is still a bit awkward around me compared to my female colleagues but at least we are over the first contact since the rejection. It’s still hard cuz i really really like him

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407334
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Yes i would have said yes to him. Because earlier this year i had my first intimate experience with a man it was scary and I took a couple of weeks for my mind and body to relax in it. But it only happened because i went through with it even though i was terrifiying and foreign to me. Had i acted on my emotions it wouldn’t have happened because i didn’t think he really meant it when he said he liked me. Even though everybody else knew he liked me.

     

    I feel soo relieved that i can trust myself and my gut instinct. We just said hi to each other and he smiled so i feel a bit better.

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407328
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Hi Tee,

    Honestly it nearly made me cry knowing I can trust my own perception of things and I’m not crazy. One of our female colleagues keeps asking me questions if he didn’t do this and he didn’t do that, and he brought his brother with him he doesn’t like you and he didn’t think is was a date. I don’t believe that he had so many changes to not go through with it, and he prolonged the time we spend together even after the session was over. But I nearly did the same i nearly cancelled my housewarming because of anxiety i didn’t really believe that they wanted to be there. And I know i probably should’t have asked him when he clearly wasn’t himself, i never know if things could have been different anf it really hurts because i still very much like him, and I don’t know if this will mean we won’t talk. But based on his behaviour i truly believe now that he does have feelings for me, but it’s extremely hard losing something you think was gonna happen expecially after a isolated and lonesome life

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407320
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Your reply actually made me tear up because before even reading it that was what i was thinking. I don’t believe that he doesn’t like me and that he doesn’t see me that way (i wrote him on instagram after i got home from the yoga session) I think I got too close and he got scared and shut down. I did the same when he got too close i shut down and when i am not feeling well (dysregulated) there’s nothing or no one who can convince me that they care. Your self defense mechamism are so strong they end up hurting you. I nearly ended up canceling my housewarming because of my anxiety. I was soo excited about it until one hour before and they were late i was fighting an anxiety attack thinking they don’t really care about this, they don’t really want to be here. A lot like the same he showed Monday.

    In the post about his brother and him struggling with love he added that he was fuming and taking his anger out on him, and being so blinded by his own problems he wasn’t there for him. So anger must be there. I also think his respons was so odd that it couldn’t possibly be just a I’m not interested. Too many signs that he does in fact like me. Wondering what would happened had i asked him the thing you wrote

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407299
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Hi Tee

    Yeah that’s kinda what i was thinking. That he was interested but it got too close for comfort. He postede on instagram that he struggles with showing love after what he went through and I know i have done the same patterns that he is showing. And he is getting closer to moving to another country. He’s brother only got invited along right before he left his house, and he had plenty of opportunities to cancel but didn’t since i asked him to specefically teach me karate and not everything else. And staying hours after just talking. I think we might have the same attach ment issues here, we keep getting close to each other and then it stops and starts again. I did the same with a guy pre pandemic i liked him but the moment he wanted me i bolted and whent with a guy that wasn’t good. The thought of intamicy was scare i will even start to physically shake when a guy gets close intimate or physically. And I definitly think his behaviour on Monday was very much self sabotaging. Because in person and over text he was completly normal and kept trying to find things for us to do and then 5 min before his behaviour changes.

     

    I am writing to try and regulate my emotions so I can move on and not hurt like this for too long

     

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407295
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Hi Tee

    Thank you for your reply. Yeah I shut down because when i got back from the bathroom a woman was hitting on him insisting on buying him a drink he talked with her then sshifted his attention back to me and another colleague (he wasn’t nervous asking my female colleague to have a drink after work but was with me, so much that he avoided eye contact and messed up his coffee, didn’t look at me before i had said yes to joining) I had what i now know is an emotional flashback (I got diagnosed with Complex PTSD last oktober) i psnicked oh I must have misunderstood him, he didn’t mean anything by it) i completly shut down and pushed him away for a week before returning to my baseline. Then he shut down. And I thought I had ruin my chance. We got back on track but he was still doing all the work in seeking my company and looking at me a lot, i was afraid of looking back because my anxiety gets so bad that if i look at him he would know i like him and then i will get rejected. I push people closes to me away when i get triggered had he or anyone else asked me if i liked him i would have lied and said no in order to protect myself and give myself a sense of control. You can’t reject me if i reject you first. I see a lot of myself and my patterns in him. We both have anxiety childhood trauma and a disorder that makes relationships hard. Especially when he is moving abroad next year. I gave an update to Anita would like to hear your opinion on all of this

    in reply to: Does he like me? #407294
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    So i wrote this knowing that it didn’t end the way i hoped. I needed to know that i wasn’t crazy for starting to think he liked me. Everybody at work thought he liked me too. He works reception I’m in the café, a girl he works with said she always wondered why he would use the rest room in the bar(having to walk by the café and a long way) instead of just using the one right next to reception.

    So an update my “housewarming” we were just four people was Wednesday two weeks ago. After that he started calling me by a nickname, I’ve never heard him using my name before so this was new. Then i got to a point where I need to go forward or walk away. He is moving to Canada in february so if anything is gonna happen it should soon. So i wrote him two days after like you mentioned that you know karate would you be able to teach me some. He said he didn’t really remember anything but he could relearn with me. Last Wednesday he came up and asked me if I was available Monday (a couple of days ago) he mentioned again that he didn’t know how to do it but we could do other stuff. Sunday night we wrote and he asked me to meet him in his favorite park, if i were down for swimming, or running or yoga. Cuz then we would have a plan for what to do that day. Itook this as a good sign, i if a person your not interested in want you to teach them karate(i’ told him I’ve always wanted to learn that but never got to) and you don’t know how to do it and you keep coming up with other stuff to do so we would still spend time together I thought it was looking promising. He was late which I expected (he has inattentive Adhd) he wasn’t far away, then he went, just looking for the yoga mats, found three on our way, my brother is joining. I meet up with them and he bought me coffee, he said his brother would be the yoga instruktor but he eneded up doing it himself. His brother didn’t speak the whole time unless spoken to. He (the cute guy) seem out of it, not himself like he couldn’t even remember basic words like albow, should er and knee kept forgetting it. Seem like he was on something (he’s not a drug addict but he has sometimes used it, and alcoho) the session finished after 40 min and we stayed there for several hours talking sometimes it was good sometimes really awkward. We started walking back and he changed the direction to a longer one but a much more beautiful one with lakes for me to enjoy. Then out of the blue he said that he could see himself living in the capital of my country. He’s never been there and don’t know a lot about it. Asking me how far my home town is from the capital and that it is a beautiful country but flat. My gay guy flat mate bursted but that sounds af if he likes you!

    We said goodbye and I texted him I’m sorry for today your not interested it’s hard for me to read people. He replied no I’m not interested your amazing person but I don’t see you that way. I was heartbroken and confused. It takes a lot before i believe a guy likes me and everybody who knew him better than me said the same thing. We are all confused. I have guy colleagues who feels protecting of me like a sister but none of them are awkward around me. Even my parents thought something was going on between us when they came to stay at the hostel for a week and he came to introduce himself. There were a lot of other signs that i have left out because the post would be too long.

     

    I have to as well that he has a lot of trauma. He grew up in an abusive home, moved a lot as a kid didn’t have friends saw two of his friends get stabbed i front of him. He has a lot of anxiety (he put butter in his coffee last tuesday to help ease his anxiety) he has periodes of time where he doesn’t eat all day even when he is working, he will just have a nap. He has Adhd and did tell me he gets sick of people and places fast because of his mental health. He is trying to stop partying because it’s not good for him but he still has days were he shows up to work hungover with no sleep. I have to see him at work tomorrow. Hopefully he won’t remember our conversation because his memory is worse than any person i have net.

     

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378689
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    It makes a lot of sense reading all this back that I’ve been critisized and bullied, not just by other people but by myself as much. I’ve been very insensitive and mean towards myself, so trying being nice and compassionate with myself would definitely be a better aproach. Like being my own parent so to speak. I don’t really have anyone I can turn to in the moment nor do I have the money for a therapist. But you have given me a lot that I can work with to help myself feel better. Learning to be my number one supporter, and setting boundarys is necesary and not something that means that I’m selfish. I wanna thank you for listening I feel a lot of weight has been lifted off of my shoulders.

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378545
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    My mothers mother died when she was just 17 and her father was emotional abusive to her. So I’ve never had a rrelationship with him. My grandfather i really liked but he died when I was 15. we (me my sister and my mom) eventually cut ties with my grandmother and only my dad would visit her. That lasted for like 6 months or so, and then my dad came home one day chocked about her behaviour and he cut ties with her as well.

    I was in therapy when I was around 23 I think, after having a breakdown from stress at the age of 20 after my aprentenship had ended. We talked about my childhood and everything concret to work with apart from try meditation. I needed help figuring out what i was doing wrong, like you were emotionally abandoned, this is how your reacting and this is what will help you healing those wounds. It felt good talking about it, having someone to listen to me, but there weren’t any guidlines as to how to deal with it. I guess that’s why I’ve always felt as there’s a puzzle piece missing, I didn’t know I was emotional abandoned and so I couldn’t heal it.

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378307
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    I can’t remember if they forced me before the meeting, but they have been adding pressure. Every person I’ve ever told about my anxiety thinks to just have to force yourself and you will be fine. But it’s not just the psysical symptons and the feeling of panic in your mind and body, it’s the fact that you have to do it in a room where some people would criticize and belittle me. That doesn’t make you less anxious but more, and it makes it even harder the next time you are in a social situstion. I guess it’s the way I’m interpreting it. I feel weak whenever I ‘m saying no (which is rare) and people make it all about being a little uncomfortable, and that I’m running away from it. Instead of listening to me, i’m only saying no when I’m completely exhausted from being anxious and facing my fears every day, I need a break once in a while.

    Like attending a social gathering with one side of my family, everytime I get extremely anxious but I know that when I get there I know I’m gonna have a lot of fun. No one there is gonna criticize me. With my other side of the family I need a lot more energy to get through the day. Energy I don’t have and that’s when I say no to going.

    Sorry if it’s a bit messy, I’m terribly sleep deprived at the moment.

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378210
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    The child psychiatrist thought my anxiety stems from a lack of control, so forcing me to do things and thus removing me being in control would only make it worse. I’ve been forcing my self to do things that terrifies me, and I have done so since i was a child. But i have to be the one in control. So attending school being bullied and beaten was bad enough, it was like having one never ending anxiety attack, but you can’t remove yourself from the situation. But doing presentations was like my worst nightmare, still is, I asked to not do them because that would have been too much for me, I wasn’t ready for a challenge that big. But my teachers said that i shouldn’t be weak, and if your afraid of something you just gotta do it, and if you refuse we are gonna make you do it. That’s why I ended up cutting in my wrist. This was a a time where my sister had it the worst, screaming from pain for hours a day asking to die, being devalued and compared to my cousins by my grandmother and losing all my friends. So doing a presentation in an unsafe environment was too much and I snaped.

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378158
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Yes, with the verbal abuse I’ve was told to ignore it and think about something else. In the end I stopped talking about it and would sit in my room alone and cry. Both my parents has had trauma growing up, and they have never taking care of those wounds. I guess the pretending it doesn’t happen makes it go away, is easier in a way. With being punched, bullied by my peers in school (and bullied by two teachers) They asked me if I wanted to go to another school. I refuse cause I couldn’t deal with thought of being the new kid in clase. They also took me to a child psyciatrist and he told them they were not to force me dealing with my anxiety. Which they didn’t. I school the teachers would force me, I went home and cut my rist trying to regain some sense of conrol.

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378054
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    1) Probably more a friend than close friend then. She knows all about my insecurities and has never told me that I was weak or stupid because of it.

    2) Sorry, I can see I’m bad at explaning. She knows about anxiety, but doesn’t understand anxiety disorders. Being anxious about an actual anxious situation (loss of job = losing your home) But not anxiety regarding everyday things. Like having anxiety attacks for taking the bus ( I’ve taken the bus for years) or going to do grocery shopping, or attending my friends baby’s baptism. These events aren’t going to hurt you in any way, they aren’t dangerous, so why is my mind and body reacting so strongly about it.

    Like I’ve always been afraid of sitting in the front of the bus, because when you have to alight the bus you are able to make eye contact with people, and what if I trip and fall. Heading for the exit when sitting in the back, you don’t get to see them looking at you. Never has I trip in a bus or anything like that, but non the less I am still anxious about taking the bus.

    in reply to: Feeling betrayed #378047
    Katrine Nielsen
    Participant

    Yes, she is doing well thank you.

    She has had fights with other people and paranoid tendencies about other people, but never with me. Not directly at least. Back when she told me that she had been told I went behind her back, she mentioned everything that I’ve done wrong i our friendsship. Things like a was a bit stressed one day, i told her no (only after she kept saying I’m a push over, and saying no is not dangerous) and that I was unable to make a decision about something a while ago. All things I find pretty small, and not really huge mistake. We’ve only met up once every 6 months or so, and then we usually watch a movie or eat at a caf’e and such. I’ts always been very laid back. That’s why this is such a huge chock to me, because our time spend together has been very relaxed.

    My mother is a people pleaser like myself. She’s sacrificed everythink my sister and me. But emotionally I have been on my own so to say. I’ve never been able to talk about my feelings and fears without getting a just be positive and don’t think about it. Dealing with my sisters illness, work, house chores and a mother in law calling her a bad mother, there wasn’t any energy left. So I had to learn to deal with my anxiety, feelings, bullies on my own. Trying to self soothe and pep talk my self. My parents don’t understan anxiety, like why are you anxious there’s nothing to be anxious about. Making me feel really weak because I can’t just snap out of it.

     

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