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  • #460836
    Nea
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    Hi Roberta,

    Thank you so much. 😊

    We don’t have a naming ceremony in our culture. My husband and I have always been really fond of that name. I love names that are sweet and short, and for this one in particular, we wanted something to reflect Western and South Asian culture as that will be the environment she is raised in.

    Hope you had a wonderful day!

    Nea

    #460835
    Nea
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    Hi Anita!

    I really enjoyed reading about your social life, especially how full and exciting it was for so many years. Four evenings a week or more is quite the social life! And I’m sorry to hear that those places closed, especially when they had become such a regular part of your life and one of them was somewhere you were going every day.

    I’m glad you still have the dog park and the outdoor music events though. The dancing part made me smile! 😊 It sounds like those last two events were really lovely, and hopefully you get to enjoy the next one too before the season ends.

    Also, sorry for the late reply. These days the sleep deprivation has been really bad with the little one cluster feeding, so I’m up for most of the night. It’s a lot some days, but I keep reminding myself that it’s temporary and she is going to grow up so fast. I know one day I’ll probably look back and wonder where this tiny newborn stage went.

    And triangulation is actually a very true observation. I hadn’t really put that word to it, but the way you described it makes a lot of sense. My dad isn’t really confronting my husband directly anymore, but the feelings are still very much there and come out indirectly through other people.

    Lately, he also has barely acknowledged my baby at all, which I find really sad. He does work very late, but even when he is home or on the weekends, he doesn’t really bother much with her. He has indirectly said things to my mom about it being because she is “so small,” but I also think having my husband here again and simply having to coexist with him is too much for my dad, I suppose. It’s sad that all of these feelings are spilling over into what should otherwise be such a happy time.

    But we are moving soon!! Actually, early October now, so the “Whole Outside World” is getting much closer! I think getting back into our own space and having some physical distance from everything happening inside this house is going to be really good for all of us.

    Nea

    #460786
    Nea
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    Good evening Anita!

    No, I really appreciate it 🤍 And honestly, we can still talk about it and analyze things — I don’t mind that at all. I think what I meant was more that I feel like I’ve spent such a big part of my life trying to understand everything and make sense of it, and now I’m reaching this point where I also have to learn how to accept what I already know.

    The more I’ve started seeing certain patterns in different things, the more surprising some of it has been. And I think now I’m just trying to figure out how I want to live around it without constantly thinking ten steps ahead.

    Right now, with all of us living the way we are, it honestly feels like I’m mostly just in my room with the baby, trying to stay in my little bubble and focus on her. I’m really trying not to think too much about future events, relationships, what things will look like later, etc., because I think that’s probably the only way I can actually enjoy this time.

    I am still a little upset because my dad is continuing to expect quite a bit from me and saying things along the lines of, if I want him to have closeness with his daughter and granddaughter, then I also have to put in effort. And part of me is sitting there thinking… we literally live together right now. You can come see her whenever you want. Nobody is stopping you. But that isn’t really happening.

    And then I keep finding out little bits of new information — like that they’re still discussing my husband, or this situation, or that situation — and it leaves me feeling so confused because part of me just wants to say, you guys really need to move on. At some point, how long can everyone keep dissecting the same things?

    So for me right now, it really is about staying in my bubble. Some of my friends want to come meet the baby, and even with that I honestly feel like I’d rather wait until we’re back in our own place and have people over there. I think I’m craving that feeling of having my own space again.

    For now I’m just trying to recover, slowly start doing a few more things outside of the house, and get some fresh air. I’ve noticed even doing that feels really energizing and reminds me there’s a whole world outside of everything happening inside this house.

    And I loved reading about your afternoon. Two beagles asleep on your lap, the leaves moving in the wind, and that early-fall feeling sounds so peaceful 🍁🍂

    I’m sorry you’re missing more in-person human connection today, though. Do you have people nearby that you’re able to see or spend time with sometimes? 🤍

    Nea

    #460782
    Nea
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    Good morning Anita!

    Thank you for sharing all of that.

    It’s really interesting what you brought up about how some people can be so unwilling to look within or tolerate being questioned at all. I think that is something I have to keep in mind with my dad. A lot of what he seems to stand on is, “I’m older, I’ve done these things financially, I’ve provided, so how dare you question me?” And I think that’s where the problem is. Being older or having done a lot for your family doesn’t mean that everything you say or do is automatically okay, or that nobody is allowed to challenge you.

    With my mom, I do think there is some truth to what you said as well. My dad somehow has a way of presenting situations so strongly from his own perspective that the other person starts looking like the bad one. I’ve seen my mom get pulled into that. Instead of looking at a situation independently and judging what actually happened, she can start absorbing his interpretation of it, and then suddenly everything the other person did is viewed negatively too. I don’t necessarily think she starts there, but she can get talked into seeing things through his lens.

    At this point, though, I think my biggest focus needs to be separating myself emotionally from all of this and putting my energy into my own little family unit. I’ve spent so much time trying to understand why he behaves the way he does, why my mom reacts the way she does, what could have been different, what everything means, etc.

    And I think I’m realizing that understanding something can be useful, but there eventually comes a point where you have to ask: how much more can I actually do with that understanding? I can understand the dynamic more clearly, but I can’t make another person reflect, change, apologize, or see things differently. So maybe the next part for me is less about figuring them out and more about deciding how I want to live around what I already know.

    And of course, I completely understand that everything you’re sharing is simply your perspective and advice based on the information and experiences I’ve shared with you here. I really do appreciate the amount of time, thought, and effort you’ve put into reading everything I’ve written and responding so thoughtfully. It has helped me look at things from different angles.

    How has your week been going, Anita? 🙂

    Nea

    #460770
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Alessa!

    Thanks so much for checking in. It’s honestly been so amazing. Being a first-time mom still feels so surreal — I have moments where I’m just like, I can’t believe she’s actually here! 🥹 She’s so precious and truly my whole world already. Even seeing how much she’s grown and changed just over these last few days has been amazing.

    She’s settling in really well too! We’re still trying to figure out our little nighttime routine because she definitely loves waking up frequently at night, while also loving her long afternoon naps 😂 But nonetheless, it’s been the most beautiful experience so far. 💞

    How are things with you? I remember you mentioned you were sick with the flu as well — how are you feeling now? I hope you’re doing much better!

    Nea

    #460768
    Nea
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    Hi Anita,

    I hope you had a good day!

    Yesterday got away from me, time flies with the little one in the best way possible. 😊

    I really appreciate the way you explained that distinction between reassurance and silencing. Looking back, I can see that there were times when reasonable concerns or questions were essentially shut down by yelling, and eventually it became easier to comply than continue questioning things.

    I think another layer now is that my husband is upset with my mom too because of the comments she made. His attitude toward her has definitely changed since finding out. He’s still polite and respectful and has said he’ll remain that way, but he’s much more guarded and doesn’t want the same level of closeness right now.

    That’s been sad for me to see because they did have a good relationship before. I understand why he’s hurt, though, especially because he feels like some things he thought were genuine support or family closeness are now being viewed differently. I also told him that my relationship with my mom is very important to me, and he understands that. He just feels he needs some distance for now.

    I actually warned my mom beforehand to be careful about what she said because I really wanted to preserve the relationship she still had with my husband, but unfortunately that didn’t really happen. So now he has told me that he will continue to be civil and respectful toward her, but he needs more of a boundary and doesn’t feel comfortable being as close or open as he was before.

    My husband is generally someone who is very selective about who he fully opens himself up to. Even with some members of his own family, including his sibling, he keeps a certain amount of distance. For him, his core family unit is very much me and now our daughter. So I think when he genuinely lets someone into that inner circle and then feels hurt or betrayed, it affects him quite deeply. Middle ground can also be difficult for him — he can sometimes go from feeling very close to needing significant distance once trust has been damaged.

    I’m trying to understand all of that without feeling responsible for repairing every relationship myself. I think that’s probably the biggest challenge for me right now — accepting that I can love everyone involved and wish things were different, but I can’t keep forcing closeness or peace when the other people involved have their own feelings and boundaries.

    Nea

    #460742
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Anita!

    Yes, I guess this is exactly how it went. We followed and believed although I had my doubts and raised them many times, and was sometimes reassured but mostly silenced by yelling…and even after asking my dad are you sure? Especially because it involved my husband and he would repeatedly say yes of course. And then ironically, blamed it all on us and mostly my husband when things didn’t work out…..

    You’re right if you put it that way, money talks. If I see it that way then I can understand that my husband not apologizing has nothing to do with his love for me…

    Nea

    #460734
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Hope you had a good day. 😊

    Thank you for your questions, happy to answer them.

    1. I don’t think they were intentions misrepresented but I think there was more work that needed to happen before anything could materialize which we were not fully aware of. We were led to believe in the next few months things would materialize but then certainly with economy changes etc things took a hit. I understand some of it was not in my fathers control but instead of having a truthful conversation he made it seem as if due to my husband’s lack of capacity in work ethics etc things didn’t happen. I know this is not true it was simply because my dad did not have the funds he thought he would to help execute those plans. Instead of being accountable, he shifted blame and then just brushed it all under the rug and left us without any answers.

    2. This is an interesting question…they are a direct receipt. I never thought of it this way.

    Look forward to your reply.

    Nea

    #460726
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Alessa,

    Thank you so much for your kind message and support. I really appreciate it.

    And yes, exactly — this living arrangement wasn’t something we had originally planned, and a lot of how things unfolded was very different from what we had been led to expect. Had we known how things would end up, we definitely would have made different decisions.

    I’m really grateful that my mom has been supportive with the baby and helping with baby-related things, and that my husband and sister have been very supportive of me personally through everything.

    And you’re right — I really do need to keep bringing my focus back to what actually matters right now: our little family, enjoying this special time with our baby girl, and protecting that peace as much as I can!

    Nea

    #460724
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thank you for putting it this way, Anita. I really loved the distinction you made between real peace and temporary peace — I honestly hadn’t viewed it that way before, and it really resonated with me.

    I think part of what has been confusing me is that another family member put the idea in my head that, given my postpartum state, if my husband truly cares about me then he should just put all of this to the side and let it go for now. And I understand where that thought comes from, because obviously I want less tension around me right now.

    But then I remember what you said before about resentment, and I don’t want that either. I don’t want my anxiety to be relieved because my husband has to suppress how he feels, change his boundaries, or adapt his behaviour just to keep everyone else comfortable — only for that resentment to surface later in our marriage.

    I think that’s the part I’m trying to hold onto: reducing my anxiety doesn’t necessarily mean making the conflict disappear at any cost. There has to be a way for me to find peace internally while also allowing him to have legitimate feelings and boundaries about what has happened.

    And I do think the mettā mantras will help me with that — giving me something concrete to come back to when my mind starts spiraling, so I can work on creating that sense of calm internally rather than feeling like everyone around me has to behave a certain way for me to feel.

    Nea

    #460723
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Roberta,

    Thank you so much. I tried this for a bit early morning and it was very comforting. Important to practice and keep focus on what I can control at least and this gave me a sense of empowerment, so thank you. ❤️

    Nea

    #460717
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Roberta,

    Thank you for providing this fresh perspective. I do feel guilty in some ways that I haven’t been as present as I would like to be with my baby because I’ve been spending so much emotional energy trying to understand these family dynamics and make peace with everything.

    My husband has been very understanding over the years, but after the recent incident and everything that has unfolded since, I’m not sure exactly what these relationships will look like going forward or whether they can ever return to what they were before. Perhaps some of that change may ultimately be for the better, especially as I begin this new phase of life and focus more intentionally on the family my husband and I are creating together.

    I really appreciate the loving-kindness meditation you suggested, and I’ll do my best to practice it. Sometimes, when we’re caught up in all the tangled webs of family history and conflict, it’s easy to lose sight of the bigger picture. Peace, love, good health, and being present with the people directly in front of us are ultimately some of the most important things of all.

    Nea

    #460713
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thank you for this. What you said about the role giving me a sense of control really resonated. I think that is exactly what it was. Growing up in such a volatile environment, trying to smooth things over or bring temporary peace gave me at least the feeling that I could do something. Even if it wasn’t real control, it made things feel more bearable. So now that I’m trying not to fall into that same role, I can really feel how much anxiety comes up when I have to just let the tension exist.

    And yes, I also really appreciated what you said about temporary peace being the best a child can sometimes get. I think that explains why I kept repeating the pattern for so long. It wasn’t because the problems were actually resolved, it was because the relief of everyone acting normal again felt better than the ongoing tension.

    It’s been an exhausting day. I think being so newly postpartum is heightening my emotions too, but I can’t help randomly crying about how differently all of this could have gone.

    And yes, someone from my husband’s side was brought into the situation originally to try to help clear the air, but then my family shared more things about my husband that I know are either untrue, distorted, or taken completely out of context. That has made everything worse. Now it feels like everyone keeps coming back to my husband needing to apologize for things to move forward.

    What you said about my father trying to turn others against my husband really hit me too. I don’t know if that is exactly how he consciously sees it, but the effect has been that my husband feels increasingly isolated and portrayed as the problem, while the original issue keeps getting buried under old grievances, money, favors, and character judgments.

    And your point about “generosity” being transactional really stayed with me. I’ve been struggling with that because my father has always been very financially generous, and I do appreciate that. But I’m realizing more and more that if every gift, every dollar, or every form of support is later brought back up as evidence of what someone owes him emotionally, then it doesn’t feel like generosity anymore. It starts to feel like a ledger.

    I’m honestly starting to lose sight of the original issue myself. Weirdly, I catch myself wondering, “Should my husband just apologize and end this?” because I’m so desperate for the tension to stop. But another part of me absolutely does not want him to apologize simply to restore peace, especially if that would reinforce the idea that the verbal abuse and physical intimidation were acceptable or somehow his responsibility.

    I think that’s the old pattern in me showing up again — wanting someone to just give in so everything can feel normal. But I also know how temporary that kind of “normal” has always been.

    I’m just so tired of the entire topic now. It has taken up so much emotional space during a time when I’m only a week postpartum and really should be focused on recovering, my husband, and our baby. I keep thinking about how this should have been such a joyful, peaceful time, and instead there is all of this conflict around us.

    Thank you for understanding why this has been so difficult for me, and especially for putting words to the difference between real peace and the temporary feeling of peace I learned to create growing up.

    Nea

    #460687
    Nea
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Yes, I think you’re right about the “peace restorer” role. I’m realizing that for years, when there was tension or conflict, I would eventually be the one who softened, apologized, approached, or just said “let’s move on,” even if there had never really been any resolution. It gave me temporary relief because at least the atmosphere felt normal again.

    So now that I’m not doing that — and I also can’t control whether other people repair things — I think my nervous system almost doesn’t know what to do with the unresolved tension. My mind keeps jumping ahead and trying to figure out how to restore everything, even though another part of me knows that repeating the same pattern would just bring temporary peace and leave the underlying issues untouched.

    There’s also been another layer added that has made me really angry. I recently learned that when some family members tried to meet and “clear the air,” the conversation apparently turned into a list of criticisms about my husband — things about what he supposedly does or doesn’t do around the house, finances, and other petty or inaccurate things that really have nothing to do with the original incident. Then those comments were relayed to someone in his family, who confronted him about them.

    I’m honestly furious about that. I live with my husband. I know our marriage, our finances, what he contributes, and the person he is. I have never claimed he is perfect — I have openly said that I think he should have disengaged sooner during the original argument, and I have absolutely called him out on things over the years. But that is completely different from sitting there while people paint an inaccurate picture of his character and then asking me, “Why are you defending him?” Of course I’m going to defend him when something being said about him is simply not true.

    What makes me even angrier is the contrast. I grew up around genuinely serious behaviour — verbal abuse, physical aggression, domestic violence, intimidation — and so much of that eventually became normalized or excused, sometimes with the financial provision and generosity being held up as evidence of everything that had been done for us. Yet now relatively minor complaints about my husband are being collected and treated as evidence against his character. It feels incredibly backwards to me.

    And your point about the financial generosity really resonates for that reason. I am grateful for the financial help we have received. I don’t want to rewrite that or be ungrateful. But I’m also increasingly able to see that generosity in a much bigger context. Money and generosity cannot erase the way someone treats people, and they also shouldn’t create an expectation that the recipient owes emotional submission, loyalty, or tolerance of behaviour they otherwise wouldn’t accept.

    I think this new information has made me even angrier because I’m realizing that I don’t want to keep participating in a system where one person’s anger becomes everyone else’s responsibility to manage, while everyone else’s mistakes or imperfections get magnified. And I just had a baby, so I’m also frustrated that all of this family conflict is continuing to take up emotional space during a time when I want my energy to be with my husband and daughter.

    So yes — I think the anxiety really may be partly the absence of that old “restore the peace and get relief” mechanism. The hard part now is learning to tolerate the tension without automatically fixing it, especially when I’m so angry about what is being said and how unfair it feels.

    Nea

    #460680
    Nea
    Participant

    Thank you, Anita ❤️

    The way you put things is always so helpful to me because it helps me see things for what they actually are, rather than getting stuck in trying to figure out how they should be or why someone can’t respond differently.

    Right now, I’m really just trying to focus on the baby and developing that cozy, safe little bond with her and enjoying this new bubble we’re in. But my mind still wanders ahead sometimes—to holidays, family gatherings, and what all of this means going forward—and I notice this weird anxiety come up. I have had generalized anxiety disorder growing up. Any suggestions on how to ease this feeling of anxiety?

    I think part of it is because I’ve always been the person who eventually tries to restore the peace. Even when I’ve felt that I had to bow down a little or let something go that I didn’t necessarily agree with, my thinking has often been, “Whatever, it’s not worth all of this tension—let’s just move on.” The relationship might still remain somewhat distant afterward, but at least that uncomfortable energy and awkwardness would be gone.

    This is the first time I’ve really been in a situation where I can’t control that outcome myself, because now it involves my husband too. If reconciliation or some kind of peace doesn’t come from him as well, I can’t force it, nor can I make that decision on his behalf. I think that loss of control over the usual “peacekeeping” role is probably part of what feels so unfamiliar to me.

    My mind also keeps going back to the fact that my father has helped us financially and has done meaningful things for us—for example, helping us with our first home, which really was something he did for me. I do appreciate those things, and I don’t want to erase them or pretend they meant nothing.

    But at the same time, I keep coming back to the fact that financial help and generous gestures don’t give someone permission to cross boundaries or treat people however they want. L

    I think I’m slowly learning how to hold both truths at once without feeling like I have to somehow make everything okay again.

    Nea

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