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The decision to homeschool was out of a portrayed disdain we were fabricating for the school in general. She really thought she was helping us by getting away from our situations AT school, but it wasn’t as bad as we were making it out to be (or at least in my case). I just hated going to school like every other kid that was my age at the time I suppose. My father definitely didn’t disappear from our lives. I actually work at the same place as him, and we talk quite abit. During childhood, he played the disciplinary role, but I never found his level of discipline unreasonable. I felt they were good parents given the cards they were dealt.
One thing that happened in my childhood that hasn’t been brought up yet, but may have played a significant role in my development was that at around the age of 4 or 5, I had an older cousin by about 6 years molest me. I don’t believe there was any penetration, or that he touched MY body, and to be honest. I don’t remember most of it at all. I’m not entirely sure if it’s had an effect on my sexual development or anything, but I do remember having thoughts in class with my peers at a young age, that I’d been introduced to something they knew nothing about (sexual activity), and it almost made me feel more “grown” than them. I of course didn’t share this with anyone my age, what had happened eventually came out to the family, but it had been kept pretty quite.
JoshParticipantThank you again for helping me in this situation Anita. Seeing that you responded to something on here is about the only bit of solace I’m finding emotionally during this period of time.
My parents divorced when I was about 8. Before then, she was really great. She was the compassionate one of the 2, but never was too soft or too hard on us. After the divorce, my mom stayed single until I was about 20, focusing on raising me and my 1 year older sister. She worked 50-60 hours a week as a machinist when we got to around 15 and remarried when I turned 20. She divorced afew years later, and is single now in her mid 50s.
In terms of her treatment of me growing up, I suppose one might say she was “too soft”, but I don’t think anything stands out outside of the typical mother behaviors. I look back and can say she did what she thought was best any time she did something, and really tried as a single mother.
One thing that happened that I think plays a big role in my social makeup, definitely for worse, is that when I was in the 7’th grade, about 12-13 years old, she took us out of public school and began homeschooling us. With her working as much as she was, it resulted typically in us just sleeping late, watching alot of tv, and not doing much school work. And also not socializing like our peers that stayed in school were doing. I believe I missed out on alot of growing, and skillsets that I should have developed in my teenage years as a result. If I met someone new today, I can hold a conversation with them like anyone else could, so it’s not like there are many surface level problems that are very noticable about me you could pick up on as a result of lacking those social skills when I was younger. I feel I picked them up eventually along the way. But I DO believe it plays a very big part in the problems I face with dating, attraction, and women in general. I feel like alot of teenage boys in high school are probably more comfortable speaking with and making friends with women their age than I am doing the same with women my age. Although I don’t know if that’s normal or if it’s just par for the course.
JoshParticipantThank you Anita. I have set up a date Monday per your advice. Although- I’m not very excited about it. She’s even more attractive and obviously shows far more interest in me than this girl that disappeared on me. But I can’t seem to think about anything but this girl from last week. It’s at a stage where I know it’s unreasonable. I know I shouldn’t have my thoughts filled with her and what happened. But I simply can NOT. STOP. thinking about her and the situation.
This weekend I did things that should have been great fun, and should have taken my mind off of it at least for afew hours. I played 5 hours of golf for the first time with friends. We had a big bbq that included afew games and tournaments. The entire time, my thoughts have been absolutely dominated by this girl that I had only a single date with, how I failed in something that should have come so natural for me as a man, and how if I HADN’T failed, everything would be ok right now. And truth be told, even looking back at her, I know she wasn’t anything special. I know that even at the time we were talking- I was having reservations about whether she was someone I’d even be interested in a long term sense. But knowing these things has done nothing to quell my current pain at all.
It’s gotten to a point where I cannot stomach being at home. I can’t watch movies or television shows. It’s Sunday night right now, and I’m sitting at home writing this, and there’s a wave of gloom that washes over me- knowing that I’m about to start the work week and be locked in the home/work/home/work cycle for afew days. But even when I’m at work and naturally anticipating the end of the work day’s freedom and the ability to return home; I shudder at the thought of walking into my house. Almost like I’d prefer just staying at work rather than coming home where this newfound loneliness is waiting for me.
I’m starting to think I’ve got issues on a much deeper level than I know. I mean.. why after a single date am I having such intense and emotional feelings about this? I’ve almost gotten to the point of crying occasionally on afew days since I’ve found out I’ve been rejected. What’s been putting me on the brink of crying these few days is the thought that she’s gone. “She”, being someone that didn’t mean much to me to begin with. But suddenly every text of our past conversations hold much more significance than they actually do, and this newly developed way of thinking; that I have nothing. Could this date, and subsequent rejection have triggered something eternally in me that’s been lying dormant? These intense emotions can’t be common, can they? For the simple fact that she was able to walk away so easily, and the common sense idea that today’s people can hookup so easily and be divorced of emotion.. this has got to be something I’m experiencing alone, right?
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JoshParticipantAnita, thank you so much for the insightful response, and taking the time to consider my situation.
Yes, once I found out about my low-T, i did what the doctor had suggested until my blood levels indicated that I was at normal levels. I do not believe low-T was the culprit in this scenario, however. Having been awake almost 24 hours at the point the intimacy began, I feel fatigue was mostly responsible. Also, since I’ve been single almost 3 years, the last time I’d been intimate with a woman has also been 3 years. In that time, I’ve developed a habit of viewing pornography, and masturbating nearly every day, and in some cases twice. I think both of these things may have also contributed. As a result, I’m going to cut pornography out of my life entirely.
I never considered the father-figure/ desire to have a family aspects of my psyche that you’ve pointed out, but it would make alot of sense. I tend to fall short in many categories that are typical masculine qualities. I lack confidence. I’m very agreeable. And I’m not assertive at all, which has held me back in many aspects of life, including romance. I believe those attributes that I lack have held me back from pursuing potential dates/partners, which may be why I hurt so much from this experience. I don’t take abandonment very well emotionally, and the fact that I’m relatively shy when it comes to the opposite sex has meant that that dating prospects for me tend to be few and far between, so when one comes into my life, then leaves, it extrapolates the hurt to unreasonable levels.
March 20, 2017 at 12:02 pm in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #140835JoshParticipant@Lacienaga Yes, thank you. I’m trying very hard to separate my “soul” from our life together I guess you could say. I’ve done all the self-refelection, and evaluating of the relationship I feel I can benefit from, there’s alot of rumination and obsessive thinking lately. Replaying memories, and asking myself questions that can’t be answered. My spirit has recovered substantially, but the 800 lbs gorilla still sits by my bed ready to jump on my chest as soon as I open my eyes in the morning.
After 5 years together, and having every decision from minor to major being based on “us “, living for myself, and becoming the man “i” want to be is an entirely foreign concept to me. I joined a new gym, and am considering a membership at a boxing gym.
“She has made her choice. She is living a new life.” It’s THAT PART RIGHT THERE that is crippling, and is has been very hard to wrap my mind fully around. I know…”just don’t think about it, and move on”, but that part there… I don’t know. It’s debilitating.
March 20, 2017 at 5:32 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #140731JoshParticipant@anita That’s an interesting idea and perspective that i haven’t considered. That the emotional wall i have up may help weed out anything except those that have qualities that do interest me.
I do believe what @john is saying may be what I’m experiencing. There are times when speaking to women even more attractive than my ex where they may be showing signs of interest in me, and thoughts start entering my mind where i start asking myself, “why do you even like me” and it hinders my ability to really be myself and have any sort of meaningful conversation.
March 15, 2017 at 3:50 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #139545JoshParticipant@anita I’ve never considered it. Would you suggest that as a method of getting over my ex-girlfriend? I don’t feel like I’m fully healed, but it hurts to think she hasn’t had a problem moving on.
March 14, 2017 at 11:29 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #139455JoshParticipantI want to tell all of you that I really appreciate all of you helping me through the hardest time of my life thus far. All of you are taking time to respond to a complete stranger whom you’ll never meet, just that you know is struggling, and it really means alot. It helps ground me when my mind starts sinking once again.
@luke Giving myself time to heal has been the major influence behind my decision not to jump into a rebound. Not to mention the fact that my emotional state seeps through in any interaction I have with people, and it isn’t necessarily a turn on from what I can tell. There are also reservations I have in me about replacing her. I know she’s gone, and life HAS to go on, but I still have trouble coming to terms with the idea that someone else will be taking her place in my life. I can’t picture it, imagine it, and I think right now, I don’t even want it. The idea of learning about someone else and their wants, needs, pet peeves, favorite color, meeting their family… All of it is just exhausting to think about, and I don’t want any of it. The thought of my ex considering all of that for herself, and still feeling it my was worth leaving without trying to save the relationship just hurts more.@anita That may be the route I take at some point in the future when I’m ready to really start socializing and putting myself back out there again. I have been making it a priority dress decently and go to the mall every Friday to eat lunch, grab a coffee, or catch a movie. I’m trying to learn to enjoy my own company and put myself around people. She is always “with me” though, and I always have the feeling of “if only she were here too”. I also can’t escape the uneasy and awkward tension i have inside me when alone in public trying to enjoy myself, and I don’t know why.
March 14, 2017 at 4:14 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #139413JoshParticipant@anita Maybe so. I’ve created multiple online dating profiles, including a $30 a month match.com subscription, but with limited success. I’m extremely introverted, very shy, and don’t get out very much. Meeting women can be hard for me and giving them a good first impression can be challenging and taxing. I don’t find it “fun” like many men, I’m not looking forward to it at all. I think all this is also compounding on the loss, and is another reason I’m taking the loss so hard. Because I don’t know when I’ll or how I’ll replace her.
That being said, since the breakup, it’s been hard to even look at other women in a romantic way. I still feel like I’m in relationship mode, and when i come to the realization that i can in fact get with these women now, a wave of anxiety washes over me and I begin getting very uncomfortable. I don’t know why I get this way, what to do about it, or how I’m supposed to move on in life.
I’m 30 years old, and now I have to meet a a woman, get to know her in hopes that sshe’ll be a good person, and get her to like me enough to hopefully have children and be married by 35. This depresses me massively, particularly considering just afew months ago, I had the woman I thought I would have all of that with, and it would happen soon.
March 13, 2017 at 4:08 pm in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #139333JoshParticipant@anita You’re right. I’m speaking from the heart when I call her new relationship a rebound. In all honesty, I have no way of knowing. I guess it’s my way of coping with the idea that after 5 years, and total confidence in the relationship from my perspective, I and what we had could be replaced so suddenly. I still catch myself thinking about future plans with her before coming back to the realization she’s not in my life anymore, and it’s hard to comprehend that while I’m stuck on this end of the spectrum, she’s on the entire other end.
And I honestly don’t know if I’ll ever send her any email. Everywhere I look tells me it’s a terrible idea, whether for healing or for reconciliation, but there are times where I starr going through all the things I want to say to her, telling her I have grown and learned, and it helps me sleep some nights.
@poppyxo I will try your exercise I acceptance; it sounds helpful. I’m in no hurry to jump into anything new, even if that is all the advice I’ve been getting from those around me. I’ve welcomed a roommate who is going through similar struggles with any ex wife. I tend to be a homebody and sit at home alot even during that weekends which is to my detriment. He’s abit more social, which i help will get me out of the house more.March 9, 2017 at 4:19 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #138207JoshParticipantYou’re implying this new relationship of hers is something of a rebound, I think you may be right. Obviously I don’t know any of the dynamics of their relationship, and that she’s had more time to grieve the relationship than I have, but this is a guy that’s got nothing going for him, and if it’s purpose is to quell feelings of loneliness and attachment, that’s the definition of a rebound, isn’t it?
I keep floating the idea around in my head to email her. Sometimes I think it sounds like a terrible idea. That she’s in a new relationship (even if it’s a rebound), and it will come off as invasive and desperate, and on the other hand I think, “what did I have to lose”?
It wouldn’t be anything asking for her back. Judy telling her I know a lot of what i did that made her “unhappy”, and although i know she owes me nothing, if she could help me understand more of what I was lacking in the relationship, it would help me to become a better man, while stating things she could improve on (communication, setting boundaries, ect). Of course I’d state that this isn’t any attempt to open a dialogue with her, just a way to help myself improve.
March 8, 2017 at 9:22 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #137587JoshParticipant@anita what you say makes perfect sense. I just miss her so much. It’s hard to process the fact that all the memories we had are stuck only in the past, and not part of a story that’s continuing to be written.
It’s a weird feeling. I always feel terrible, but some times are better than others. Then, moments like right now creep up on me for no apparent reason, and I physically start feeling like the inside of my chest is being crushed. I know this is just a symptom of heartbreak, but I have such a hard time comprehending how something that hurts so much emotionally, physically, and mentally in my end can feel so liberating and necessary on her end.
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March 8, 2017 at 6:37 am in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #137537JoshParticipant@anita everything you said sounds very spot on. It hurts. Depending on the source, 3 months is “more than enough time” to heal, or barely scratching the surface of a long road, but either way, I just can’t get her face off out of my head, or her out of my mind. I’ve learned alot, and it hurts so much knowing the lessons I’ve learned won’t be able to be implemented in a relationship with her. That’s life though, and I know I need to quit sulking.
The struggle I’ve had in moving on has been even having the ability to even look at other women. I still feel as though I’m still in a relationship, and so happy that I’m not “on tnt hunt” anymore. I was so happy being faithful to her. I don’t know how I can get these feelings of not WANTING to let go, and accept the breakup. I know I need to. But I feel like I’m still holding onto it with everything I’ve got, even when we haven’t spoke, and I know she’s dating another man.
March 7, 2017 at 3:49 pm in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #136681JoshParticipant@Poppyxo Ugh that’s such a loaded question. I can’t even begin to describe how much i want her back with every fiber in my being. I’m confused, lost and hopeless without her. If there was ANYTHING I could do, nothing would be off limits.
I’m realistic (as much as I can be in the emotional state I’m in at least). She’s ignored my last attempt at contact, she’s replaced the dog we’ve shared, and she’s got a new boyfriend. This doesn’t stop me from wanting her in the least, but it makes me realize that she’s in an entirely different place emotionally, and any attempt at reconciliation would only serve to push her away, and possibly further into this new guys arms. I’ve been telling myself that if i truly want her back, I’ve got to let her go. And mauve some time later down the road, we can reconnect. This is much easier said than done when there’s not a minute in a day where i don’t think about her, and her ghost still lingers ibn the house we shared together.
March 7, 2017 at 1:07 pm in reply to: Still struggling hard 3 months after breakup. Why can't I let her go? #136673JoshParticipant@Anita yes, after reading the books, there was were quite afew things that i could have done better in order to keep her interested in the relationship. There were red flags i missed in terms of non-verbal communication of her level of unhappiness with the relationship (less effort put forth in house work, spending more time with friends ect)
And honestly i never noticed any problems Roth communication in their family dynamic. Het mother is a little shy but definitely speaks het mind. That’s the only thing I can think of
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