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If there is any moment that I truly regret is when he told me that he wanted to break up with me, I accepted it without any fight or fuss. All I can say is that weak “I am very disappointed” line that I regret very much.
I wish that I had told him that I want him to stay and fight for me and that we will work this out together somehow or maybe we should take a bit of a break and space to think things through instead of agreeing with a impulse break up that he only thought about for 3-4 days.
Maybe things would be different, who knows.
Instead of saying all those things or beg for him, I let go of him while thinking that letting him go is the biggest present and the biggest kind of sacrifice that I can give to someone that I love very much. I am in a constant struggle between Mina that wants to tell her ex about how she feels honestly or Mina that wants to be the un-selfish ex girlfriend that let go of her ex boyfriend once he wanted out.
I do not want my ex boyfriend to remembered me in a bad way – I want him to remember me as Mina, the person that he loved very much and that ex girlfriend of mine that was so nice that even after I broke up with her, she sent me a warm happy birthday message.
I want him to continue to remember me that way. I do not want to show him or anyone my “depression” state for that reason. I want to remain as a good and lovely memory for him. I do not want to turn into those crazy ex girlfriend that will embarrass their ex boyfriend, my ex boyfriend was respected by a lot of people – I cannot turn my boyfriend`s legacy and reputation in this college into nothing.
I still dress up, put on my make up, put on a fake smile everyday in order for everyone to believe that I am fine so they won’t send my boyfriend weird message like how Mina is going crazy etc, I have to put on a mask in a sense. He is the last person on earth that I want to tell about my current condition.
But lately – it gets unbearable for me like I have mentioned.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
You wrote : “Your sacrifice was about pretending you are okay so to prevent him from feeling any concern about you. Am I correct so far?”
100 percent correct. This what what I truly meant as a sacrifice.
You asked : “You mentioned before thanking him for having been your boyfriend, and you mentioned it again. I don’t understand: do you believe he did you a favor being your boyfriend? That he did not benefit from it himself? What is behind your desire to thank him?”
Reading this from you made me realise how similar you and my ex is. Might sounds weird but I can feel that he would say the same thing as you did about my whole thank you speech.
You asked : “do you believe he did you a favor being your boyfriend? That he did not benefit from it himself?”
Not exactly that. I mentioned before how he thanked me for supporting me through his whims, do you still remember? I did not reply to that text message.
I have a lot of things that I did not get to say during the break up. I remember writing to you that I did not say anything to him except for the fact that I was very much disappointed in him because in a sense he did not “fight” for the relationship. That was the only word I said. I wished him luck and after that I did not say anything regarding the break up, ever to him.
I am regretting for not saying what I truly feels. More than that, I am very tired of pretending that I am fine. It was hard processing the break up but lately I know what I want to say to him now. Even though I might be very late.
You asked : “What is behind your desire to thank him?”
The desire to be understood by the most important person in my life. To be heard by him. I have a few questions that I really want to ask my ex boyfriend. I know that we have no chance of getting back together, it is never my intention to reach out to him to get back together again. I just want to be honest … with a hope that he would also be honest. I need him to CONFIRM what I am holding on to right now is true.
What I am holding on right now is : the idea of why we broke up and the way we feel about each other right now. we broke up because we love each other so much and it was just getting too hard for him to continue our relationship not because he does not love me anymore. the way that we feel for each other is still love, even though it might be a different kind of love, we will always care for each other as friends or past lovers or whatever …. he was someone that matter in my life and I was the same to him. That the relationship was something very important to both of us.
I needed to confirm that from him. I sound really desperate and crazy, I am aware. It is killing me.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
I am seriously thinking reaching out to him and just be honest about my feelings and my struggles.
Of course, I would never include anything like my suicidal thoughts. I just want to let him know that the break up was very hard on me, and there were a lot of times after the break up that I did not showed my real feelings to him or to anyone, really. I am still very much struggling in the dark, and I just want to let him know that.
It is embarrassing but knowing my ex boyfriend all this time – I know he won’t judge me. He is the only person that would understand my feelings best, more than my family and my close friends ever did. I would just be honest and thank him for everything, something that I haven’t yet done after the break up.
I am hoping if he really is the person that I love, he will also express his struggles. and his honest feelings about me and the break up. I am currently choosing the timing and a start out topic… I do not know if this is a good idea or the worst idea ever but it is comforting thinking about how I can be honest with my ex boyfriend.
Thanks for the amazing feedback. and your support for me.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
Sorry for coming off kind of rude on last reply to you… I have been having a hard time adjusting to my new university life without my ex boyfriend.
Things are a bit rough, especially on nights like these. I feel like life is not moving when I am here. I had fun and laughed with my friends and then I realise that I am actually for real alone. I saw my university after almost 2 months of not seeing it, I went to one of my favourite late night snack store and the lady there asked me where was my boyfriend. I used to went there often with him, due to his busy schedules- usually our date goes almost overnight.
Things are moving almost in the same pace as my old life – the only thing that is missing… it is him, Anita.
I talked with some of our mutual friends, and they are surprised to see how I was still very much in denial. I still talk about him like I used to, and I still adore him, thinking that he is the best person that has ever existed. My friends refuted this and basically calls me out for being on a denial phase. Like for me, my ex was is still very much my prince charming. Our love has only been stopped temporarily, I believe that he will come back to me and we will be together again if it is meant to be. Maybe I will date other person in between and maybe love some too but … he will be the one for me.
It is my first admitting this to anyone. I think my ex boyfriend is the one. There, I said it.
Right now – I am not in any condition to talk about my best friend. I do not care about him. I do not care about his feelings at all to the point that I do not even want to bother to give him closure or a clear rejection. Why should I do that? I am in so much pain because I haven’t been able to take the focus off my boyfriend, I am inside a jail that I made myself. I want to focus on myself but I struggle so hard… should I reach out to him, Anita?
To ask him about life in general… it gets too unbearable for me sometimes and it really hurts me. Maybe I should be honest with my ex boyfriend and instead of going on with the whole stupid sacrifice thing, I should just admit it to him that I am very much struggling and I get very sad very often too. Maybe he can say something that would help me a bit.. I do not know.
All I can say to him is…. help me. I was feeling pretty much similar to this before his birthday and it gets “relieved” when I congratulated him on his birthday and I felt like I was understood after holding on to so much pain and pretending that I am fine. I know that If I contact him every single time I felt like this, there would come a day that even his reply wouldn’t matter much and wouldn’t relieve my pain.
I am not a suicidal person at all, I am very bubbly but lately – I keep thinking that maybe there isn’t a way out for me. I am so scared and tired. Maybe If by some kind of a miracle, I died and go to heaven, maybe I will finally be free of this pain. There were a lot of times when I prayed to God very sincerely to give my life to someone else that needed it. Someone who is actually living. Why would God gave me this precious life to someone who isn’t really living like me? The only thing that beats is my heart, my soul is already dead. I confessed these kind of thoughts to my pastor and he told me that I shouldn’t lose my faith. That I should trust and believe God`s plan for me, that His plan is always the best. That I should wait.
And feedback and advices would be very appreciated x
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
You wrote : “When the relationship ended you felt that you were not the same person. Now, you are focused on this young man, the friend.”
What do you mean? I do not like this person as a guy …. he cannot even be compared to my ex boyfriend. My ex is so smart and nice and super tolerant. My best friend isn’t like that at all. He is not a guy that I want to date, ever. Not now and not in the future. Sorry If I sound kind of defensive, I am really sensitive when it comes to my ex boyfriend lately.
You wrote : “Focusing on your friend makes it seem like the problem with him is bigger than what it is, that it needs to be solved as soon as possible, for your peace of mind. In reality, it is not such a big or urgent problem.”
But I am not focusing on him now…? it just bothers me so much that he likes me and is showing it off to everyone.
You wrote : “Do you think you can do that or do you feel that you have to resolve the problem with your friend first?”
What do you mean by this?
Thanks for the feedback, Anita. sorry i sounded really rushed in this reply, I am really tired right now x
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
I have a weird update regarding the situation.
Yesterday, a few of my friends including my best guy friend (the one that likes me) dropped off at the airport. To put it simply, he was the last person to leave out of all my friends even my family. I did not think about it much since his house is near the airport so I figured he can stay until the very last boarding moment.
It was time to board my plane and he asked for a hug. I was confused for a moment but decided to gave him a half hug (side by side not front to front kind of hug) and left after saying a quick bye. I did not have any problems with hugging or touching if he does not have other intentions but we all know that he does at this point. More than that, he uploaded a few Instagram posts that were just … off in my opinion. He posted on his way to the airport with the heart captions, and after I left, he posted a sad crying emoji. He was being too obvious.
A lot of my friends suggested me to tell him clearly that I do not like him that way, the thing is – I am not the type to say these kind of thing first. Since he hasn’t officially confessed to me yet… I cannot officially reject him either, you know? More than that, he was a really good friend of mine. I do not understand why he suddenly thinks that he can “replace” my ex boyfriend place in such a short period. It makes me mad.
I want to confess something really embarrassing, I have a private Instagram account that only has 27 followers (all of them are my super close friends) and inside that account, it was like all about my ex boyfriend. I wrote a lot of super depressing stories about my past relationship (for example, I posted a congrats post when he was accepted at his dream university, a farewell post when he enlisted for the air force, or a bittersweet post when our favourite Japanese restaurant closed. very personal unimportant stuff but still.. very personal)
My best friend must have read most of this. I am not over my ex boyfriend. There are some days or moment when I go out and had so much fun that I forgot about him but it does not make my feelings for him disappear. After yesterday`s incident, I feel really weird and confused. It was so shocking and real that it took the focus off from my ex boyfriend to my best friend (for the wrong reasons, unfortunately)
At that moment, I felt a shift. I do not feel a strong connection with my ex as I used to. It was quite scary to feel so disconnected from my ex boyfriend. During the break up, I always in a sense follow what my ex prefers me to do. It wasn’t a bad idea at all, since my ex was a very positive influential in my life. I became a lot more nicer, brave and accepting of people after the break up. I toughen up a bit.
Anita, I really do not know what I am supposed to do right now. I am feeling a bit jet lagged due to my flight and I cannot think logically about what is happening inside of my heart and my brain. I do not know how I can reject this bets friend of mine without being super forward.. and I would also like to keep our friendship. It might sounds selfish but I am so tired at dealing with these kind of problems. It has not even been a week since I truly found a satisfying closure from my past relationship yet guys always seems to pop out of nowhere and made my life so difficult.
I really want to honour my ex boyfriend and my past relationship with starting my life again and moving on, but it is so hard since he was so involved inside my life (and I was so involved inside his), and I cannot magically remove him in one day. It will take some time, maybe a month, maybe 3 months, maybe a year, who knows? I am trying to detached myself from him and the relationship but how can I do that with my current situation? I cannot detach from my ex boyfriend if someone is waiting for me to accept his feelings. It made me feel very guilty and disgusted at myself …. because I haven’t been able to grief properly and move on properly in my opinion. I need time to re-think the value of the kind of a relationship that I want and whether I want to actually date seriously anytime soon or not.
Thinking about my ex boyfriend for 3 months, for 24/7 was very exhausting both mentally and physically – I hate the fact that my best friend made me “confuse” – I know that I do not like him like that, but he must have think that this is a vulnerable point in my life (which is true) so he is trying to take a chance. It must have worked at some point because there are times when he reminds me of my ex boyfriend (the way that he treated me)
Maybe IF it is not my best friend, if it is another guy that I truly like, maybe things will be different but right now I feel kind of trapped by own foolishness because I was desperate to be treated as much as my ex used to treat me by someone. Anyone, really.
I would like to hear your feedback and advices. I am sorry if I sound kind of all over the place, my head is hurting from the red eye flight.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
Yes, correct. I will be going back very soon. On September 1st, classes will start again. I signed uo for a university club, and I am trying to focus on my studies completely. Last semester I was focusing everything on my ex and it destroyed me. I learnt my lesson.
It’s about time for me to figure out my dreams. I feel so nervous but I can feel the excitement of a new beginning. I am finally (for real) closing my old chapter that was messy and painful.
I am ready to move on. I want to. Life goes on. Hopefully I can still keep this positive attitude until the end of my semester too.
Thank you for checking up on me, Anita. So nice of you!
MinaParticipantAnita,
You wrote : “If your “best friend for 3 years” does not “cares that inside that pretty face is a heart in pain”- then he has not and is not a best friend, is he?”
To be fair, my best friend was pretty confused about his feelings towards me. He is the type to fall in love easily, and I was also at fault for keep asking advices regarding my relationship at that time. My ex warned me already, that he probably sees me as more than a friend. I refuted his claims because I trusted my best friend of 4 years. After the break up, he was a very good listener and gave me a lot of useful advices. My ex was my biggest fan and supporter but I guess my best friend became that person after the break up, without me realising. He actually did not get to asked me to be his girlfriend because I rejected before the official confession. He sent me the song “Lucky” and at that time…. I just knew and it was confirmed by a mutual friend too.
It took a while and now we are best friends again. I pretended like I did not know about his unofficial confession and ignore or avoid relationship topics with him. He became cold after that, and was distant but I wanted to keep the friendship going regardless of his feelings towards me. I admit that I am very selfish but I had already lost my boyfriend, I cannot lose my best friend in this period.
“…. then he has not and is not a best friend, is he?
It is complicated. The line gets blurry. The thing is, I never exactly tell everything that is going on regarding my break up. He knows 90 percent of it but the rest 10 percent – I wanted to keep it private. My best friend choose a really bad timing without knowing, because he unofficially confessed to me on my ex`s birthday. Anita, you know how meaningful that day is for me. I was already a nervous ship wreck on his birthday and when I got my reply – I actually almost fainted from crying. My best friend did not know that I was in contact with my ex boyfriend. He also does not know how serious I was with my ex, to the point of almost sleeping together with him. I did mentioned though after a while that I was actually considering engagement if we had stayed together during his military service and my best friend was very surprised to hear that. So I guess, you can say that he does not know the nature of my past relationship.
You asked : “do you mean that now he sees you as more than a pretty face?”
Well, you have to ask him for that. I am not sure either. We always have a lot of fun together and having fun together has nothing to with my face, right?
Our personality matches pretty well. I mean I knew him for 3-4 years – we never really clashed during that period.
I hope he really sees me as a person right now instead of a potential girlfriend.
-Mina
MinaParticipantConnie,
so happy to hear that!
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
Thank you for the feedback, seriously – thank you. It means a lot to me.
You wrote : “… these are all good things, very good things. Remember these things so to expect them in your next relationship, to look for these things.”
Reading this writing from you, I can feel a bit of a sting in my heart. A lot of our mutual friends decided to to side with me during the break up and was blaming my ex boyfriend for the break up. They told me that my ex did not fight for me, and did not kept his promise to at least try to make it work over time. I explained that regardless of anything that they have mentioned, he is a very good person and a very good boyfriend to me. He brought out the best in me. No one except for me recognised how well he treated me. You are the first person that acknowledged he was a good boyfriend after the break up. My ex himself until now – does not think he was a good boyfriend, I have a bit of regrets for not replying his birthday text message and express how grateful I am to had him in my life.
You wrote : “Take your focus from the unit, specifically from the “boyfriend” part of the unit, and bring it to the “you” part of the unit.”
I am trying. I will try to focus on my studies, my social life in general and university clubs next semester instead of thinking about how miserable my life is without him. I know that my ex will want me to live my life again. The break up was hard on both of us.
Seeing him “pulled through” from the break up, it made me admired him. He is having a harder time than me, with his new upcoming changes that is very unpredictable and scary – I am sure deleting his Facebook also wasn’t easy for him. Cutting off contacts with most of his friends and social circle.
He became a reminder for me to move on. If I cannot run, I will walk, and If I cannot walk, I will crawl to get through this. His last words to me was :
“I would like it if you have fun and be happy in your life.”
The very last words that I hold on to very much.
I know now that my last “sacrifice” for him would be me, being happy without him.
It is his last and sincere wish to me. To simply be happy. That even though this break up was very hard, it will pass. That I will definitely meet someone that will love me more than he did and will treat me better than he did too. He told me this and looked me in the eye. He believed in me more than I ever believed in myself.
For that, I am thankful. I won’t waste his last words to me by not being happy or by not moving on with my life.
I will start my life again – and that is my special way for me to honour him and the relationship.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
You asked : “What was the relationship like?”
It was everything to me at that time. I feel like I met … a soulmate? We spend our first date talking for 5 hours non stop about a lot of things. From fashion, politics, university stuff, to music. When I am with him, I feel safe. I feel like I won’t be judge for anything. I can speak anything to him, truthfully and comfortably. He will listen to me, and give a lot of meaningful advices. He gave me a new way to look at my life. He told me how I should be myself around him. I feel accepted and loved when I am with him. He never once made any rude remarks about my personality or my appearance. He always respected my space and my personal choices. He never pushes his opinion on me, never forces anything on me at all. His friends treated me very well. He motivated me to be more “tough” in this world, hat I should learn to say “no” sometimes to defend myself. He was my boyfriend, my best friend and a role model in some ways to me. He protected me and loved me.
You asked : “How often did you see him, in person?”
Countless times. I mentioned before that we are a college couple. We shared a lot of friends together, went to the same school festival, went on our own dates, tried met up for lunch or dinner every time we had a free time, lived only 15 minutes away by bus. We met up at least once a week.
You asked : “How much time did you spend together and what was the nature of that time?”
It was a short period of time. Around 3-4 months. We started very good, things got a bit rocky when he came to me and cried, telling me about how he is thinking about moving college due to various reasons I have stated before in my previous reply to you in this thread. At that time, we made a commitment to me that we would try to make the relationship work regardless the military service and the distance due to the moving college thing. It was good again, until he broke it off. He told me that logically – it is not possible for us to stay together and it was emotionally too tiring for him to date anyone at this moment in his life.
You asked : “What was the nature of that partnership?”
I simply used the word partner because he was more than a boyfriend to me, that is all. We have never lived together. We just support each other during good and bad times. Since we broke up on a really good (too good) terms, we have a good friendship going on. Like I have already wrote before, the reason why we are not together is not because we do not love each other anymore. It is because we love each other very much that we are letting it go. We have our own different plans and dreams, throwing it away for one particular person seems silly to both of us.
Take your time in answering. I am willing to answer any question regarding the nature of the relationship if it is necessary for you to make a useful feedback.
-Mina.
MinaParticipantThere are times when I feel like I am truly fine. I can laugh happily and truthfully, I can give advices to my friends, I can live like a normal people.
But, every single time something happened to my ex partner or there has been a change in him or me, my emotions is in a turmoil. It is not the same sadness or depression, but I feel like I cannot breathe.
and also other than being sad and hurt over that, I am thinking about how he is doing at the same time. Must have been so hard for him to resigned and left everything behind and start a new.
I know that I shouldn’t even care about him at this point considering my condition, but still.
I guess, there will always be a part of me that cares and love him.
It scares me to think about that sometimes. That maybe, I will never un-love this person. That maybe, he will always be a part of me that I will always be bringing into my life whenever and wherever I will go.
MinaParticipantAnita,
Thank you for the helpful feedback. I understand very clearly your point for now.
But understanding and changing are 2 different things though. My mother had used fear for the longest time as a motivation for me to survive. How can I replace fear with some other type of motivation?
and also,
I want to share something with you that has nothing to do with my parents. I noticed that my ex partner had deleted his Facebook today. His Facebook was filled with his friends from our university and also photos related to his major and student council.
I know what this means – that he is probably accepted in his new university. I am feeling quite a lot of emotions. I guess that I was hoping that we would have a chance of getting back together if he hadn’t been accepted. That maybe I will still have a chance to see his face around the campus next semester too. By deleting his Facebook, I know that he is not coming back next semester. I think he had also resigned from his position in student council.
My heart feels very heavy, I want to congratulate him but I am hesitant for a lot of reasons. This feels even more final than that time when I forgot my anniversary with him. He is closing a chapter in his life, that has me in it and it feels very painful. I had seen it coming months ago, still, it does not make it easier for me.
Why do I feel like he is deleting me from his life as he is deleting his Facebook? It was a stupid Facebook account that he never even really updates due to his busy schedule but it was something that connected us together as friends, as past lovers. Whatever our relationship are right now.
Any advice regarding this?
-Mina
- This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by Mina.
MinaParticipantAnita, I will be waiting.
-Mina
MinaParticipantTo be fair,
I know that my mother wants the best to me. She is also “scared” that I will turn out to be someone that people will have no respect for or gossip about. She is looking out for me by using my fear to make me somehow fight and be super careful for my future. She thinks that if I become someone, I will be very happy and will have someone taking care for my whole life.
Maybe her way to teach me is wrong, as you have mentioned but her way is proven to be quite effective, no?
If it weren’t for her teaching, maybe I would be a lazy person that settle for anything and for any guy. Maybe I will be living a completely different life.
I am open to any feedback and advices.
-Mina
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