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Sunfl0werParticipant
I’m with Inky, you did fantastic!
For what reason were you wanting to contact him?
You are not saying anything to him and he is still finding reason to attack you. He sounds irrational so I cannot imagine what good it would do to talk to him. You are not responsible for his anger, or calming him. Imagine if you did speak words, I can only imagine that they would be used as fuel for his anger. He sounds like the type to either twist what you say against you or use your words to manipulate and coerce you for his own means. He also just doesn’t sound like a safe person to me and I worry about you restarting contact that can make him feel more attached. Continue your silence, he will fade in his attempts eventually.
Great job!!
Sunfl0werParticipantSo good for the update Maggie!! 🙂 I was wondering about how you are. I was reading yesterday something that explained how each moment has many paths and directions. I was enjoying that thought and it was helping me to be more conscious of my actions in the moment. Somehow that is what comes to mind for me in reading your update.
Sunfl0werParticipantThank you for posting the follow. It brings me much joy hearing how you were able to work things out. Even though I was not involved in this thread, I find myself learning so much browsing through around here and it is always so great to hear the follow ups. Thank you! I feel so happy for you. A great way to start my day. 🙂
January 22, 2015 at 5:12 am in reply to: Does anyone have any experience of ADHD in relationships? #71783Sunfl0werParticipantMaybe your expectations should be adjusted, I don’t know how a person decides that as I struggle with balancing my expectations myself. I can understand you may be hurt and that you may have less pain if you shift to expecting less, but like I said, idk how to get balance in that area for me either.
If that is what you think though… Maybe “picking your battles” is something to consider. Maybe think of one thing he is forgetful with but has desire to change. Instead of phrasing it that you are hurt. Be positive and encouraging? For example: “I really love it when you do ________, I wonder if I wrote it here on the calendar, sticky not etc, could you do that again Tuesday?” And maybe find another way to feel loved and reassured that doesn’t depend on him remembering specific things. Like maybe he can’t remember to txt everyday at lunch, but maybe he randomly gives you a love note that you can keep on your dresser?
Honestly tho, it is not easy to create new habits and simply use a calendar. Any change like that and to remember to be consistent will take lots of effort. Also, I sometimes get so involved with a task that it takes my entire focus. That I’m struggling to stay with the task and in a “mode” that to stop, switch gears, and call a BF would do too much to take me out of my mindset and often then I’ll not be able to easily switch back to being productive.
Lol Inky, if I didn’t have a FB, I would not know birthdays!
I hope something helps!
January 21, 2015 at 5:47 pm in reply to: Does anyone have any experience of ADHD in relationships? #71744Sunfl0werParticipantHi there,
Hummm.. This is tricky. I have ADD, inattentive type. I do try to go out of my way to compensate for times when I am forgetful. So if you catch me forgetting to call, then I am quite apologetic and try to be reassuring of the fact. Also, I may have ADD but I feel that I am responsible for finding strategies to compensate. Like, I may not remember to call, so it is my responsibility to schedule it in my phone, or to schedule a txt that gets sent hours later. Idk…is he at least making efforts to meet your needs? Or is he making excuses for his disability? Sometimes tho, it is really nice for someone to acknowledge that they understand that I have this issue and that they understand my intentions are well and positive ones. It can sometimes be so stressful.
Idk but I hope that helps in some way!
Sunfl0werParticipantHi Yoyo,
I have been labeled by last BF as someone who cuts people out of their life. His awareness and thoughts about this label he gave me made him feel insecure about if it would happen to him. I do not know if my behavior is the same as your partners or different but I will explain and you can decide.
Someone can easily say that the reason I haven’t talked to my brother in over 5 years, is because of one fight we had. Or someone can say that the reason I cut out my friend of two years is because she asked me to pick up a friend and I didn’t want to. However, the truth is that there is much more behind these situations. It took me some time to realize that some people in my life were using me and ok with that, ok with me protesting and setting boundaries and them ignoring and intentionally breaking them for their selfishness. So while a particular incident may be the last one that we encountered to end a relationship, that last incident was not the entire reason that I cut these people out.
Now if you ask me why I waited two years before I cut out the friend. Why did I wait so long? It is because it was at a time that recognizing these manipulative ways of others did not come as easily to me.
So I wonder now, if your BF actually has a reason that would be a valid one to you but is he just not as able to identify and articulate it?
Or possibly is he being overreactive and hypersensitive, by your standards, and cutting people out before they hurt him?
I am presenting these two different perspectives as I honestly do not know which it is or a combo of the two or something I didn’t consider.
I have to be honest though, some of the things you describe I too would be upset about. If my BF walked out of the house upset without saying goodbye I may take a step back. Actually, I did have this discussion with him. I asked him to please agree in the future that he would at least come to me and state that ” I need some time alone and am going to leave for a bit but will call you in _______ time.” When he did this and walked out without a word the therapist also spoke to him about having “silent anger” and that withholding affection and giving a person the silent treatment is a form of emotional abuse. That he needed to put a time limit on his “fit” and announce it to me, then go take his space.
Also, the gift issue to me may upset me in a partner. It may communicate to me that my partner is unable to see for themself the need to set healthy boundaries with the opposite sex. Or that we disagree on what healthy boundaries are and then this could be an ongoing issue in the relationship. It is certainly worthy of me having a serious talk with my partner.
Please hear that you asked for someone to help you understand. I am not saying he is right, or that you are not right. I don’t think that would matter to think in those terms. I am just trying to see if I can offer a perspective that may shed some understanding to it for you maybe.
I hope that you two are able to have a conversation where you two can get a good understanding of each other, for you to know clearly where this is coming from in him and for you to understand if it is in fact something the two of you can deal with or not.
Sunfl0werParticipant(She has been in therapy for years, inpatient as well. There are some issues though that are only exacerbated by treatment and I believe that is what she is dealing with. Her therapist admitted to us he was shocked by her manipulative ways. It is a difficult situation and I feel for him and his pain in this, however, he copes mostly by “forgetting” what has happened and blankets himself in denial.)
Sunfl0werParticipantThank you Peace.
Yes, I agree, I have switched focus to protecting me and my son and have backed out of any involvement with his daughter and his ex in order to protect me and also to give him the space he needs to deal with his situation on his own terms. I guess I am not protecting “us all” but rather felt that the decision I made was one that in fact did benefit him and her too. But I can see that is no longer my responsibility and no need for me to take credit for that.
“In five years if this is over there will be something else you have to work through.” You make a good point, thank you.
“As far as the relationship you wish you had any little step you can take to make it happen is in your power.” Words to consider.
Sunfl0werParticipantThank you for patience Maggie, I hope it does not seem like I am going in circles here. I am just truly trying to make sense of things.
Yes, parting ways feels wrong to me, in my heart, and I feel that he feels this way too which is why neither of us is out looking for another apartment even though there may be a waiting list to be on one. (So ultimately one of us will have to make a move)
Yes, he is taking things out on me. Yes, he does not want to hurt me.
I am trying to apply some Buddhism ways of thinking to my situation and this is the best I am coming up with…
I may do well to focus more on loving myself.
I may do well to stop clinging onto my desires for the relationship that I wish we would be.
I wish I could expand on those two or add more to that thinking.
Also, I have never parted ways with a man that I thought was right for me and me for him and he felt the same. This is what seems wrong to me. How does that happen? Maybe I need to start a new post with that being the topic?
Thank you again for listening and sharing!
Sunfl0werParticipantI am confused with the site. The activity log shows user “thankyou” as giving the most recent response but it is not here.
Sunfl0werParticipantWow, you have some amazing advice here!! The support you have received and reading about how you are responding and trying to implement it all is truly amazing and drew me in to read it to this point. How beautiful!
There is not much I can add, but I did want to try to say a couple of things..
“I should point put that this woman is a brilliant mother to my son & literally have nothing to worry about or fear for his safety. I sleep easy at night knowing he is in good hands with her & that he is safe.”
“but a few days later I pulled the appeal because I realised it wasn’t going to help me at all being stressed out & that it would only serve to feed the hate & resentments that had been inside for so long. I did it for my own sanity & decided to let go of trying to make things happen as I wanted them to, & have left it in her hands to decide what happens & when.”
I think this was a wise choice. You may want to revisit these thoughts and ponder them and if they are in harmony or conflict with your frustrations over the cinema incident.
“During that time I have attempted to forgive my ex various times, probably up to 10 times. Each time I failed & some of those times I knew I was lying to myself & to her.”
“However, I decided on Xmas eve that enough was enough, I text my ex & told her that whether it mattered to her or not, that I was giving her true forgiveness for Christmas, that it was my gift to her.”
Please consider that forgiveness is more a gift to yourself.
How odd it would be for me to have a man tell me that he bought himself a year membership to a gym to get himself healthy and is starting to feel great already, and that is his gift to me for Christmas.
Sunfl0werParticipantI had a similar friend. There was the possessiveness and excessive concern. I would set boundaries, it would scare her, and she’d break them. We deserve to have friends that respect our boundaries. I actually think the “excessive concern” they have is not for our well being but actually a concern to get reassurance that they have their foot in the relationship still. So I find it not caring at all. I ended up having to state that I was pretty unhappy with things and I just stopped communication. She did initially make attempts to reach out, apologized, then slowly faded in the attempts, but I had to remain consistent because it was like she was looking to open up that door of no boundaries again.
Sunfl0werParticipantHi Maggie,
Yes, thinking of the “BIG” issue I left out is overwhelming and intentional. I was worried that it would take over the focus of my words, of our relationship and love, just as it has in our real lives. I was hoping for feedback without consideration of The Big Issue.
Yes, I am in charge of much of the relationship work, he has worked hard too over the years. He has spent much time in therapy with me and really does give it his best. I feel that we all have strengths and weaknesses and mine is insight and awareness in our relationship, therefore I’m ok with that role. He over contributes in other areas that I lack. I think the point though is am I more invested and am I the only person of us both that really wants this or do I just want it more than him? The answer is that I do believe he loves and wants us to be together as much as I want it but he has intentionally sabotaged things because of The Big Issue.
I have given him much space these months. Recently he has taken up a separate bedroom. It doesn’t matter because he is stuck on and consumed by The Big Issue. Ugh!! The relationship is running its course and going to naturally end. It just feels so wrong as I know we both want to be together.
So The Big Issue: His teenage daughter has expressed that she does not want to visit him anymore and has said that she would like to kill us. There is so much more to it, so much that has happened. Anyway, I do not doubt her desire and ability to hurt us. I have found proof of her deception and desire and smaller things she has done to spite us. It is not simply typical teen anger and confusion, but she also lacks sufficient empathy and remorse. I have felt the need to set more boundaries to protect us all and I have insisted that she can no longer come to the house for visitations but that they need to be done elsewhere. The biggest fight was that he wanted her here for Christmas but this frightened me because even if I left and gave them the house, she could possibly tamper the food that I come back to or something else. M has taken my words as a personal attack against him and his daughter. That is not the case, I have loved her for years, she is troubled and I feel that her anger towards us is in part due to him wanting to force visitations without regard to her wants. I do not think it is wise of him the way he is dealing with her and it is not good for her.
So the result is that M is in terrible pain and taking all his frustrations out on me. It is his ex wife that alienated him from her, not me, but he responds to me in a hypersensitive manner as though I am plotting against him. He has PTSD from the trauma of their marriage, divorce, alienation of his child and now his teen girl has actually began being emotionally abusive to him as well the past two years. So he is freaking out, sees my requests as a source of stress and he is continuing to regress from all the work we have done in therapy the past years. (Therapist agrees too that he is on a downward spiral of regressions but was hoping we could heal together)
I know now anyone would tell me to run. Which is why I avoided this part. We are both loving people, I know we both wish things between us could be wonderful. It just seems like this challenge added would be insurmountable to any couple…. I almost wish I met him 5 years from now when he is done with this part of his life, and some other girl had to live through this period with him. (Not that I wish it on another soul)
Idk, something about parting ways, when we both love and want one another seems wrong to me. I am listening to this discontent I’m having and it is what has me stuck.
Sunfl0werParticipantThankyou, I have responded to your words in post in the thread that you began.
Sunfl0werParticipantHi redline,
I’m sorry for your loss redline.
That phone call certainly is odd.
“Yes that was love, she loved me very very much. Just not enough to overcome her own fears. And there was nothing I could do.” This is where there is so much struggle for me. I need to let go of the idea that I have the power to fix it. I only have the power to change me, my thoughts. I will have to think about this in myself much more, thank you.
Thank you for all of your words! I too am new to posting. I just signed up this week to cope with this situation. Getting a voice and pondering my situation and pondering others situations from different angles and perspectives has been so helpful. The warmth and advice here has been amazing.
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