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  • #453104
    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    All I took with me was a blanket, no crate, nothing to clean or wipe. He just woke up from a nap, hasn’t vomited for a while, seems calm and ADORABLE.

    Thank you for the input. Yes he must have eaten too close to what seems like a traumatic event for him. To be removed from his pack z(it is a beagle raising farm).

    I will attend to Parent Life tonight or tomorrow. It is very late where you’re at. Thank you for responding even though it’s so late. I hope you have a restful 😴

    🩵 Anita

    #453116
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tee:

    I’m glad you’re managing your health situation. When I felt pain in my knee today (during the car ride), I repeated to myself what you expressed, paraphrased: “this may not be dangerous.”

    “I hope your journey went well and you came back with a cute puppy 😊 🤍”- thank you, Tee. Cute puppy is a scared puppy whose vomit is.. well, needs to be cleaned tomorrow (can it really be cleaned? I would love to let you know tomorrow).

    “Yes, I remember now you talking about Boe, Hunter and Kooper at various times… you say Boe and Hunter are gone now – you mean sold to new owners?”- no, I mean dead. Boe from natural causes; Hunter by an attack by an aggressive deer.

    “Is Kooper still visiting you (or his anxiety doesn’t let him)?”- no, he hasn’t because of the bad weather and the new neighbors making concrete (real concrete) changes so it’s not as easy to get here.

    Oh, and I misspoke, it’s Kurby, not Curby. (not that Kurby would notice, ha-ha).

    “It’s interesting what you’ve shared recently on Peter’s thread… Yes, it would be good if you could see yourself (and your self-worth) as completely independent of her. You’re a separate being, a separate person, and you’re not defined by her opinion of you. What she believes of you is irrelevant, and I hope you’re accepting that more and more.

    “Because a narcissistic mother’s opinion of us isn’t relevant at all. It’s always and without exception a negative, unfavorable opinion, which has nothing to do with truth. So the less you feel defined by her opinion, or even affected by her opinion, the better off you’ll be.

    “Also, seeing yourself or defining yourself in relation to her – that too is a trap, as you’ve noticed well. And I agree, the solution would be to ‘build a new pathway that doesn’t depend on her at all? One that simply says ‘I am good,’ without needing to see her in any particular way.’ — Yess!!-

    THANK YOU, Tee. I had ENOUGH of her- it. She does not deserve any more of my attention.

    I believe that you and I, Tee, have been the unfortunate victims of Narcissistic mothers, like you have said all along.

    You didn’t deserve it; I didn’t deserve it. These 2 Narcissistic “mothers” deserve no more of our time or attention, I say tonight!

    “I’ve just read you’re riding through a storm at the moment… I hope it’s still safe enough!! Please take care!”- Thank you, Tee. I didn’t know if I’d make it, the heavy rain, the heavy, heavy FOG, driving fast (80 miles per hour at the most), over puddles of rain (sounds scary when you drive over them so fast).. What I did, when really scared, was going to my phone, checking tiny buddha.. to distract myself from the clear and present road danger, and praying.

    But here I am, another night (Dec 18), safe, wood stove burning, warm.. and I am not smelling new beagle’s vomit. First time in hours that I’m not smelling it (GROSS!), but don’t tell the beagle. I am sure my vomit would smell way worse.

    .. I just checked on the beagle, he’s lying on his beagle bed, covered by my flannel shirt I put over him, I patted his head.

    All through the drive, every time he opened his eyes, I’d pet his head and he’d closed his eyes again until the next jolt in the ride, and I’d pet him again.. and his whole body would get closer and closer to me as he found comfort in physical proximity to me.

    It’s amazing how beagle anxiety and need for comfort is so .. well, same as a human’s.

    Didn’t name him yet.. Thought of calling him “Tee” earlier, not kidding.. But he needs a more masculine name.. ? Will let you know, Tee.

    🤍🙏 🫶 🤍, Anita

    #453117
    anita
    Participant

    Oh my, so, Just heard Bogie (possible name) drinking water, which means his next pee shouldn’t be in the house.. so, got to move him to the outside if you don’t want his pee on the floor, for crying out loud (HELP)…..

    He’s just been picked and carried outside for peeing purposes (WHY IS LIFE so COMPLICATED?)

    Waiting, hoping for the best as far as the dark, cruel outside..

    Waiting… Did the dog pee?

    Almost 9 pm.. Waiting.. It’s dark and dangerous out there..

    Just checked.. he doesn’t feel safe peeing outside, which means .. pee inside the house tonight.

    I have lots of detergents.. anything to remove all this vomit and urine.. and pooh?

    .. Well, I’m almost besides myself..

    Can urine be removed from wooden floor?

    So, he’s been a beagle. Bogi or Bogart is his name. He’s lying on his dog bed.

    Truthfully, he’s ADORABLE, a good, gentle soul. If he was clean and didn’t smell like vomit, I would definitely have him in my bed tonight!

    To be continued..

    #453119
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I’m happy that Bogi the beagle 😊 came home safely, albeit not without mishaps! I’m sorry, can’t give you much advice on how to clean after dogs (and in general about dog upkeep), since I’ve never had a pet. But I’m sure these are just beginner’s hurdles and you’ll get the hang of it soon enough! 🤞

    So good to hear that you’ve managed to calm him down during the unpleasant ride, and that he found comfort in your proximity:

    All through the drive, every time he opened his eyes, I’d pet his head and he’d closed his eyes again until the next jolt in the ride, and I’d pet him again.. and his whole body would get closer and closer to me as he found comfort in physical proximity to me.

    That’s a very good sign – that he can relax in the proximity of his new owner. I think you’re already being a good dog mom, Anita. 😊 🤍

    And a clever one, too, bribing him to get on his bed by pieces of sliced turkey. 😂 Glad that worked out smoothly! 🙂

    But I’m sorry to hear that Boe and Hunter are dead, specially that Hunter was killed by a deer! 😢 I hope Kooper, if you meet him again, will be able to play nicely with his younger fella, Bogi! 😊

    I believe that you and I, Tee, have been the unfortunate victims of Narcissistic mothers, like you have said all along.

    You didn’t deserve it; I didn’t deserve it. These 2 Narcissistic “mothers” deserve no more of our time or attention, I say tonight!

    Good thinking, Anita! I still wanted to add something, since it might be relevant for your quest to become a separate person and exit your personal holocaust:

    And now, I want to exit that personal holocaust MORE thoroughly than I have recently, to be more and more open to something else, something new. But not before I fully accept, and no longer resist the truth of my decades-long experience: that of being a victim of MT.

    I want to move my attention elsewhere, farther and farther away from her, beyond the huge physical distance between me and MT, and into a mental-emotional safe distance. I want a life that’s mentally removed from her. I want Independence, autonomy.. what’s the word.. self-determination. To be a woman, a grownup; no longer an abused girl.

    That’s a worthy quest, Anita. To start focusing somewhere else, on building your new identity (or rather, peeling off the layers of the false identity, coming to your True Self). And the precondition for that, like you noticed, is to feel mentally and emotionally less threatened by her, to create a mental-emotional safe distance from her.

    Because even if you haven’t been threatened physically for decades, because you chose to leave that toxic home, you were still emotionally and mentally threatened – because you believed her lies. Lies about yourself, about her, about other people, about life… You lived within her narrative, you believed it, you made decisions based on it.

    But recently, you’ve started to question that narrative and even rejected most of it. You’ve realized you’re not the person she told you you are. And I hope you’re realizing that her opinion of you doesn’t feel so threatening anymore. She can believe whatever she wants, but it doesn’t affect how you feel about yourself and what you hold dear in life. It doesn’t affect your sense of self. That would be the goal.

    And so if her judgment doesn’t affect you, or affects you less than before, there is a space to feel greater emotional and mental safety from her. To feel like your life is yours, not hers, or not in reaction to her.

    And that’s how you can start exercising independence, and actually get out of that prison camp. Because her view of you isn’t imprisoning you any longer…

    Maybe you’re feeling that already, but I just wanted to mention it, in case it helps some more…

    🤍 🙏 🫶 🤍

    #453135
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tee:

    “I’m happy that Bogi the beagle 😊 came home safely, albeit not without mishaps! I’m sorry, can’t give you much advice on how to clean after dogs (and in general about dog upkeep), since I’ve never had a pet. But I’m sure these are just beginner’s hurdles and you’ll get the hang of it soon enough! 🤞”-

    Thank you, Tee. I am definitely a beginner. Bogi is my first pet, really. Truly, he’s adorable, so innocent and gentle.

    “So, good to hear that you’ve managed to calm him down during the unpleasant ride, and that he found comfort in your proximity… That’s a very good sign – that he can relax in the proximity of his new owner. I think you’re already being a good dog mom, Anita. 😊 🤍”- 🙏🙏🙏 Tee. During the ride I was trying to be consistent, to teach him that I’m there for him whenever he opens his eyes, so he wasn’t alone. He trusted me. Trust is so essential in the context of human and human-dog interactions.

    “And a clever one, too, bribing him to get on his bed by pieces of sliced turkey. 😂 Glad that worked out smoothly! 🙂”-i was proud of myself following my success 🥹✨💪🌟

    “But I’m sorry to hear that Boe and Hunter are dead, specially that Hunter was killed by a deer! 😢 I hope Kooper, if you meet him again, will be able to play nicely with his younger fella, Bogi! 😊”- I just heard Kooper barking (I often do) and yes, I thought about the two meeting! Currently, Bogi is still scared to get up from his dog bed to go outside. He just wouldn’t get up. So, still anxiety. Plus, seems like he’s never been on a leash.

    “Good thinking, Anita! I still wanted to add something, since it might be relevant for your quest to become a separate person and exit your personal holocaust… That’s a worthy quest, Anita. To start focusing somewhere else, on building your new identity (or rather, peeling off the layers of the false identity, coming to your True Self). And the precondition for that, like you noticed, is to feel mentally and emotionally less threatened by her, to create a mental-emotional safe distance from her.

    “Because even if you haven’t been threatened physically for decades, because you chose to leave that toxic home, you were still emotionally and mentally threatened – because you believed her lies. Lies about yourself, about her, about other people, about life… You lived within her narrative, you believed it, you made decisions based on it.

    “But recently, you’ve started to question that narrative and even rejected most of it. You’ve realized you’re not the person she told you (that) you are. And I hope you’re realizing that her opinion of you doesn’t feel so threatening anymore. She can believe whatever she wants, but it doesn’t affect how you feel about yourself and what you hold dear in life. It doesn’t affect your sense of self. That would be the goal.

    “And so if her judgment doesn’t affect you, or affects you less than before, there is a space to feel greater emotional and mental safety from her. To feel like your life is yours, not hers, or not in reaction to her. And that’s how you can start exercising independence, and actually get out of that prison camp. Because her view of you isn’t imprisoning you any longer.. Maybe you’re feeling that already, but I just wanted to mention it, in case it helps some more..”-

    Very well said, Tee 🙏🙏 🙏 In my next post in this thread, sometime later, I want to list, matter of fact-ly, her “Lies about (my)self, about her, about other people, about life..”, her narrative.

    🤍 🙏 🫶 🤍Anita

    #453137
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    I love how thoughtful you are with your sweet boy Bogi! You are doing wonderfully building a bond with him, comforting him on the ride home, coaxing him with meat to use his bed, tucking him in was a lovely touch. You can tell that he was genuinely happy to see you because he wagged his tail to greet you. Yes, everything is new and he misses his friends and family. I’m sure that you’ll be able to help him take his mind off things. You’ve got this! 🤍 🤍

    #453142
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    (And again, thank you so much for the “Dear” and white & blue emojis, it’s so very kind of you to accommodate me this way!)

    And thank you for guiding and encouraging me in my first steps of being a beagle Mom!

    It also helps that I watched dozens of “Oliver The Beagle” YouTubes (not much audio there, so not difficult to process. In one of the YouTubes, Oliver’s (human) dad gave him a stuffed animal and Oliver spent a lot of time expressing his aggression (or fear) with it. Guess who is doing the same thing right now with a stuffed teddy bear?

    I know I can’t and won’t leave him alone by himself. He’ll have human company 24/7.

    You should see him with the stuffed teddy bear, he’s so cute!

    🤍 🤍Anita

    #453143
    anita
    Participant

    Oh my G., Alessa, I just rescued Bogart from chewing on a sharp pencil, I didn’t get this house beagle proof! Luckily, I removed 3 mouse traps before he got to them, one which activated when I touched it. For crying out loud, I am not prepared..

    And then he chewed on a stevia packet I left on the carpet and I asked AI if it’s dangerous for dogs (not in small amounts, a relief!)

    Bogart is very active right now. It stopped raining, so I would have taken him for a walk, but the leash and harness purchased are not the right size, plus he’s afraid going out. So, I’m just sitting here letting Bogart know he’s not alone.

    Plus, he’s drinking more water right now, and him refusing to go out means he’s going to relieve himself in the house.. I wish you were here to help me, Alessa!

    🤍 🤍 Anita

    #453144
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    That’s wonderful! You’re a good dog Mom doing your research and you have good instincts. 🤍

    Honestly, puppies get into everything. All you can do is try your best. 🤍

    I think you’re making the right decision keeping him indoors until you get a harness that fits. I only had very young puppies, before getting my most recent pup. She was older and more mature. A young pup won’t go far, but older ones can run off in a panic. She was on a lead and the collar didn’t fit properly. She ran off on the first day. Fortunately, I got her back quickly, still it was scary!

    It sounds like he’s having a lot of fun exploring right now. I’m sure you are too! 😄

    You’re doing a fabulous job taking care of him. 🤍 🤍

    #453145
    anita
    Participant

    Thank you, Alessa!!!

    He’s just like a child, looking up to me! He got so excited hearing a barking dog earlier, and right now, he’s hearing a wild rooster, all attentive.. The Call of The Wild.

    It hasn’t been raining for a couple of hours, but I can’t leave him alone and go walking. He’s listening to the barking dog right now. The Call of the Wild.

    I’m going to call for a backup right now.. Just checked, Bogart will have company as I go on my walk in a few minutes..!!! (I wouldn’t if he’d be alone).

    🤍 🤍Anita

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    #453152
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tee/ Everyone:

    I wrote earlier: “I want to list, matter of factly, her “Lies about (my)self, about her, about other people, about life..’, her narrative”-

    What she said in so many words: “I (mother) am GOOD, ALWAYS GOOD. If you have any problem with me- that’s nothing but an indication of you being BAD, that and nothing else.

    In other words, if you (Anita) express anything other than ADMIRATION for my total, unquestionable goodness- that’s nothing but your (Anita’s) BADNESS.

    If I hit, slap, kick you- it’s nothing but an indication of your (Anita’s) badness, and if you resist or protest in any way (be it in an angry look and nothing else), that’s you (Anita) being BAD on top of bad.

    In yet other words: I was expected to look down at the floor as she shamed and guilt-tripped me at great lengths; hit, kicked, punched me and NEVER, EVER express- in any way )not even in a look in my face)- anything but TOTAL ADMIRATION for her goodness. Which meant, unquestionable acceptance of my badness.

    In yet other words, the only way for me to be just a bit good was to accept her loud, clear and repeating message- that I was B.A.D.

    In regard to other people: They are all BAD (and so am I), and if I trust any one of them (or myself) then I am BADDER than bad.

    Her message: You (Anita) have wronged me from the moment you were born (bridge birth, low-weight baby, refusing to nurse.. milk duct infection of young mother). You’ve been BAD from your very beginning, wronging the BEST MOTHER IN THE WORLD (her words, “best..)”

    So, her narrative was always this: “I am the best; you are the worst; I’ve always been victim; you all are perpetrators”.

    Anita

    #453156
    anita
    Participant

    In regard to her message, “you all are perpetrators”- I tried to be on her side by never trusting anyone/ be against everyone (and therefore, be WITH her), but no matter what, I was never allowed to be WITH her. No matter how much I rejected everyone, I was not to be one with her-

    It never happened that I was one with her, as a team of two.. no matter how much I desired it to be that way.

    As she experienced it, I was Always Enemy, NO MATTER how much I desired it to be otherwise. She just wouldn’t let anyone in as a friend or ally.

    In her world there needed to be just one good, victimized entity (herself), and everyone else (her daughters, her grandchild)- terribly inadequate disappointments.

    She’s been nothing but a terrible person to those born to her and who loved her the most. She was the WORST to those few who loved her the most, and in so being, she destroyed SO MUCH in those few who loved her the most.

    Anita

    #453164
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    How are you and Bogart getting on? 🤍

    It doesn’t sound like your mother has an accurate sense of right and wrong.

    It’s not good, to hit a child. Is it? I would say that is very, very bad. 🤍

    I’m keen to hear your thoughts about good and bad. What your mother believed was so wrong, don’t you think? 🤍

    I remember you said that she identified with villains on tv. I’m curious what she felt about protagonists? I only ask because I’m trying to get a sense of the twisted logic. It’s okay if you don’t want to talk about that. I don’t want to make you uncomfortable. 🤍

    I am really curious about your definitions of these lies. What would the accurate framing be instead of the lie? 🤍

    Are all people bad? Who is the real enemy / villain here?

    It is heartbreaking to hear how much you were controlled. Not allowed to talk to others, not allowed to express pain when hurt. Not even allowed to dress. A prisoner in your own body. 🤍

    I’m so sorry for all you suffered. 🤍

    You are free now. Perhaps the opposite of what she wanted is a kind of freedom from her? 🤍

    #453175
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    Well, Bogart and I went on our very first walk together late morning, 3.5 miles (about 5.5 km) up and down the hills around here. Bogart did very well, he peed and pooped 3 times (first time in a couple of days, I was worried), he rolled on the grass and had the time of his life! Then took him to the taproom and he did very well reciprocating people’s warm welcomes. I wish there were dog visitors there this evening, so that he’d have dog time, but there weren’t any (very slow there this evening).

    Yes, I agree, it’s not good to hit a child. Yes, she was wrong.

    “I remember you said that she identified with villains on tv. I’m curious what she felt about protagonists? I only ask because I’m trying to get a sense of the twisted logic. It’s okay if you don’t want to talk about that. I don’t want to make you uncomfortable. 🤍”-

    Thank you for your sensitivity, precious, positively special Alessa. I’m impressed that you remember what I shared so long ago. Yes, she admired successful villains and looked down on protagonists who were less attractive/ less powerful than the villains. She admired POWER.

    The accurate framing would be that.. good people need each other to help each other. The enemy are those trying to divide, to antagonize, to accuse and tear down people who are already struggling. People who are taking advantage of honest people struggling- so to tear them down so to feel superior.

    “It is heartbreaking to hear how much you were controlled. Not allowed to talk to others, not allowed to express pain when hurt. Not even allowed to dress. A prisoner in your own body. 🤍 I’m so sorry for all you suffered. 🤍”- Thank you so very much, Alessa 🤍🤍🤍

    “You are free now. Perhaps the opposite of what she wanted is a kind of freedom from her? 🤍”- Autonomy, Agency, Independence, Self-Determination. Yes, Alessa, all of that. How dare she HUMILIATE me as much as she did..? How did she dare? (Well, she did, simply because it was easy, no one to stand up for me.

    Freedom from her equals freedom from being humiliated, shamed, guilt-tripped.. freedom from being shamed extensively- not to Correct, but to Enjoy, as my shame/ pain was her pleasure, her vengeance!

    🤍🤍🤍 Anita

    #453186
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    It sounds like Bogart is settling in nicely! I’m glad that you are starting to get into a normal routine with the walks and visiting the tap room. 🤍

    Sorry I’m really tired, so I’m gonna to have to finish writing to you tomorrow. 🤍

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