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  • #453687
    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    Thank you for your yesterday’s message 🙏

    Somehow your message to Bogart: “We believe in you Bogart!” reached him: first he didn’t vomit in the car (he drooled though and was anxious), second: he showed significant progress in the taproom, wagging his tail at friendly people (and one small dog) who interacted with him. On the way back in the car- no vomiting.

    So, both Bogart and I are grateful to you, Alessa 🙏 🙏

    🤞 😅 🤍 Anita

    #453695
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    I’m so glad! I think he’s definitely starting to settle in then. The drooling is normal. He does seem to enjoy the tap room. He’s always having nice experiences there. 🤍

    It definitely wasn’t me! It’s all down to the bond you are building with Bogart. Your hard work is paying off. 🤍

    #453696
    Alessa
    Participant

    Oh and of course, well done Bogart!!! 😄 🤍

    #453698
    anita
    Participant

    Thank you, Alessa, for guiding me, for your dog wisdom (and all other wisdom). I’m about to take Bogart on a walk. 🤍🤍🤍

    #453721
    anita
    Participant

    I had a pattern, I say I HAD, byut it’s been up to very recently- that of submitting (people pleasing) on one hand and rebelling against my own pattern of submission and either becoming somewhat aggressive or just withdrawing.

    It’s been either I am less than you (and I therefore submit), or I rebel against my self-imposed inferiority and get 😠

    The middle way is doing neither, starting with never submitting, never accepting a position of inferiority, nor volunteering one.

    And then extending the value of EQUALITY to everyone: I am no less than you; you are no less than me.

    I didn’t think 😕 I’d have a New Year Resolution for 2016, but I do: Never Again Submit, Never Again people-please, but be unapologetically authentic and honest, guided by the Principle: I am no less than you; You are no less than me.

    AMEN.

    Anita

    #453722
    anita
    Participant

    2026.. time flies

    #453758
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I wish you nothing but success, Tee. I am rooting for you!

    Thank you so much, Anita! 🫶 🤍

    If there’s fear in that face emoji (I think there is), then I admire you not only for standing up for what is Right but also, for doing so in spite of fear or discomfort.

    It’s the usual perplexed face emoji (I’m not very versatile in my use of emojis 🙂 ). It’s not so much fear that I feel, but discomfort, since it’s not pleasant to not get along, to have tension in relationships, including in online communication. But sometimes we must say something, and so, it was unpleasant, but what I felt compelled to do.

    but I am not sorry. I think that the fear of her is appropriate and a sign of mental health. It’s the past dissociation from this fear that was sickness.

    This does not mean that she is currently, as a person, dangerous to me. It means that my inner child (the one previously dissociated/ blocked/ suppressed) is now allowed to feel the fear of her.

    In other words, feeling fear of her NOW is progress.

    Oh okay.. to be honest, I am a little surprised to hear this, because you’ve been sharing in the past 3 months as well as earlier about your pervasive fear that you felt towards your mother as a child: fear of her killing you or herself, fear of her scolding and physical abuse, fear to speak openly (the episode with your uncle Morris, when she was looking at you threateningly and so you didn’t dare to answer his question honestly), and many other episodes.

    It didn’t seem like you were dissociated from that fear, but very much in the grips of it. So I don’t quite understand?

    Regarding your desire to save your mother, you said:

    She was a victim as a child, growing up. She was not a victim in the context of.. being my (and others’) perpetrator. I have empathy for her in context.

    Yes, that’s what you rationally know that she was a perpetrator. However, you’ve shared that for the longest time you believed she was a victim (both your victim and everyone else’s victim), because you believed her narrative. You said that you wanted to be her hero, someone who will save her from her predicament.

    But what I was specifically referring to is a corrective exercise that you shared on Nov 1, 2025, where you were recalling the scene from your school, when your mother was yelling at your music teacher.

    In this exercise you imagined that you would be taken away from her to a safer place/home. But your LGA didn’t like that idea – she was worried what would happen to your mother:

    LGA: HELP MY MOTHER.
    Her pain was Everything, her Pain was so overwhelming, so all-consuming that there was.. nothing else that mattered.
    LGA: But Mother, mother is here, she’s in PAIN!
    LGA: who will save her?
    LGA: Who will take care of My Mother?

    This is what made me believe that there was a part of you who wanted to save your mother, even till very recently. And so that’s what I was referring to…

    Sincerely, I don’t think I hear her shaming messages anymore. I still repeat my daily mantra of removing or peeling off chronic shame and guilt, but I don’t feel those anymore, I don’t think.

    Good to hear that! 🤍

    Unfortunately (her sad/ scared), the bladder infection part of the cold has returned 2 days after I stopped taking the pills for it, so I restarted this morning.

    Sorry to hear about your bladder infection… but it should clear up nicely, with antibiotics. I hope it’s getting better by now 🤞

    I’m very happy about the progress with Bogart: that he hasn’t vomited in the car, isn’t scared of the taproom, and is more willing to socialize with people and other small dogs. That’s a really great development, Anita! 🙏 As Alessa said, it shows you know how to treat him in a positive, calming way, which makes you a great dog mom 😊

    🤍 🫶 🙏 🫶 🤍

    #453769
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tee:

    You are very welcome, Tee 🫶 🤍!

    “It’s not so much fear that I feel, but discomfort, since it’s not pleasant to not get along, to have tension in relationships, including in online communication. But sometimes we must say something, and so, it was unpleasant, but what I felt compelled to do.”-

    I am glad you did! And I agree, it’s unpleasant to have tension in relationships, and better avoid tension. But sometimes it’d be wrong to not address wrong things that people say or do.

    “Oh, okay.. to be honest, I am a little surprised to hear this, because you’ve been sharing in the past 3 months as well as earlier about your pervasive fear that you felt towards your mother as a child: fear of her killing you or herself, fear of her scolding and physical abuse, fear to speak openly (the episode with your uncle Morris, when she was looking at you threateningly and so you didn’t dare to answer his question honestly), and many other episodes. It didn’t seem like you were dissociated from that fear, but very much in the grips of it. So, I don’t quite understand?”-

    Thank you for noticing things and asking. Yes, I’ve been expressing fear of her but the dissociation during childhood and onward was so pervasive and long term that there’s just so much to EX-press, to undo the suppression or repression.

    Expression is not a one-time event or a 10- times-event, it’s ongoing.

    I don’t know how much you remember of your childhood, but if I played all my memories of childhood and adolescence like in a movie, I think it’d be an hour movie at the most, maybe 10 minutes, I am not sure. There are moments I remember, and so much that I don’t. I think it’s called childhood amnesia.

    Does this help you understand, Tee?

    “Regarding your desire to save your mother, you said… Yes, that’s what you rationally know that she was a perpetrator. However, you’ve shared that for the longest time you believed she was a victim (both your victim and everyone else’s victim), because you believed her narrative. You said that you wanted to be her hero, someone who will save her from her predicament.”- correct.

    “But what I was specifically referring to is a corrective exercise that you shared on Nov 1, 2025, where you were recalling the scene from your school, when your mother was yelling at your music teacher.

    “In this exercise you imagined that you would be taken away from her to a safer place/home. But your LGA didn’t like that idea – she was worried what would happen to your mother: “LGA: HELP MY MOTHER. Her pain was Everything… Who will take care of My Mother?”- This is what made me believe that there was a part of you who wanted to save your mother, even till very recently. And so that’s what I was referring to..”-

    As I read my own words just now (and thank you for caring to bring them up), I felt some elevated tension in my body, on one hand, but on the other, I felt removed from those words, as in being passed those thoughts and emotions. Perhaps I processed/ expressed those enough to let them go.

    “Good to hear that! 🤍”- 🙏 🤍

    “Sorry to hear about your bladder infection… but it should clear up nicely, with antibiotics. I hope it’s getting better by now 🤞”- 🙏. I’m afraid I need to get antibiotics. I hope it doesn’t require a visit to a doctor!

    “I’m very happy about the progress with Bogart: that he hasn’t vomited in the car, isn’t scared of the taproom, and is more willing to socialize with people and other small dogs. That’s a really great development, Anita! 🙏 As Alessa said, it shows you know how to treat him in a positive, calming way, which makes you a great dog mom 😊”- 🙏🙏🙏 I am a dog mom and reading your words right here brought the first smile to my face and it’s almost noon.

    Take good care of yourself, Tee, you deserve the best care!

    🤍 🫶 🙏 🫶 🤍Anita

    #453807
    anita
    Participant

    Thinking 🤔 about you, Alessa. I am using my 📱 so these emojis automatically show up and I think they’re cute.

    About my phone- it’s the latest victim of Bogart’s chewing. It still works 💪 but the case is all chewed up.

    Three days since you posted. I hope 🙏 that you’re okay 👍..?

    🤍 Anita

    #453808
    anita
    Participant

    Whatever comes to mind this Sun afternoon in regard to the most powerful, the most influential, well, DOMINATING entity in my life: my mother.

    I say entity because she stripped me of my humanity (the right to think, to feel, to have or keep a sense of autonomy and agency, rendering me “a thing”.

    And an unsatisfactory, faulty thing.

    These days I feel no love for her, no longing, no guilt. The other day I prayed for her to feel no pain, or as little as possible, and zI do feel empathy for her as the child/ adolescent victim that she has been.

    But I feel no empathy for her in the context of her involvement in my life where she was perpetrator and I was victim.

    In that context. empathy belongs to me, not to her.

    In the context of her relentlessly shaming, guilt-tripping, and instilling in me tormenting self-doubt and distrust, persecuting me with endless untrue accusations.. in this context of my life with her, I deserve 100% empathy and she deserves none.

    I lived a mostly wasted, dissociated, zoned-out life, a terribly 😔 lonely life, so isolated within and without.

    I am not feeling anger at her tonight, and haven’t for a while. I wish her nothing but relief and as much well-being as is possible for her. But I no longer feel responsible for how she has ever experienced her life. Nothing zI did wrong, nothing I was wrong in context of me and her.

    I am reclaiming my childhood innocence, my 💯 love and good will for her as her daughter.

    She used to tell me that she was the best mother in the world and that I. being B.A.D, didn’t deserve her. It was a lie, a false message. I was the best daughter a bad mother could have had.

    This is my update.

    Anita

    #453817
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I am glad you did! And I agree, it’s unpleasant to have tension in relationships, and better avoid tension. But sometimes it’d be wrong to not address wrong things that people say or do.

    Thank you, Anita! Yes, I felt that since a certain negative attitude (putting people down for showing empathy and care for others, or for having a different opinion) was being repeated again and again, it needed to be addressed. Because perhaps someone who is reading might start believing that it is indeed an expression of the ego to show care and empathy for others. They might start doubting themselves.

    And also, someone who is reading might believe that it’s kindness not to say anything if someone is berating you, that it shows emotional maturity. But silence often invites more abuse, because a rude person is usually emboldened when faced with no resistance. They might even accuse you of being in the ego if you confront them… that’s the trick they use to try to silence you.

    So anyway, silence is not always golden. That’s why I felt the need to speak up…

    Thank you for noticing things and asking. Yes, I’ve been expressing fear of her but the dissociation during childhood and onward was so pervasive and long term that there’s just so much to EX-press, to undo the suppression or repression.

    Expression is not a one-time event or a 10- times-event, it’s ongoing.

    I don’t know how much you remember of your childhood, but if I played all my memories of childhood and adolescence like in a movie, I think it’d be an hour movie at the most, maybe 10 minutes, I am not sure. There are moments I remember, and so much that I don’t. I think it’s called childhood amnesia.

    Does this help you understand, Tee?

    Yes, I understand your need to express, and please keep doing so if it brings you relief. Perhaps by expressing you’re also remembering more of the things that happened, that you as a child might have suppressed (as a means of self-protection) and that now need to be looked at and processed.

    My only suggestion is that if you’re expressing from your inner child (LGA), to also have your adult self present, to “carry” her and soothe her, so that LGA wouldn’t feel overwhelmed and helpless again. LGA should feel like it has a healthy adult support now (you being in the role of a good parent), unlike in the past when she felt all alone.

    I think that’s how you can safely express and still not be pulled into the old feelings of fear, helplessness etc. Basically, to give LGA a container (a loving, listening ear) to safely express everything she feared to express in her childhood and beyond. If that makes sense?

    As I read my own words just now (and thank you for caring to bring them up), I felt some elevated tension in my body, on one hand, but on the other, I felt removed from those words, as in being passed those thoughts and emotions. Perhaps I processed/ expressed those enough to let them go.

    Perhaps you feel a little disconnected from those sentiments at the moment, or they might have really lessened. I guess with time you’ll see if something similar comes up. But I think you’ll know then that it’s the remnant of your inner child’s old programming (to feel sorry for your mother and to feel the urge to rescue her). And so you’ll know how to handle it, if it ever becomes active again…

    I’m afraid I need to get antibiotics. I hope it doesn’t require a visit to a doctor!

    Yeah, sometimes antibiotics are the best route, because if it’s bacterial infection, nothing else beats that. I’d suspect you’d need to see a doctor for it, although it’s a pretty common problem and perhaps you’d get a prescription even without going for a checkup…?

    I had a pattern, I say I HAD, but it’s been up to very recently- that of submitting (people pleasing) on one hand and rebelling against my own pattern of submission and either becoming somewhat aggressive or just withdrawing.

    It’s been either I am less than you (and I therefore submit), or I rebel against my self-imposed inferiority and get 😠

    The middle way is doing neither, starting with never submitting, never accepting a position of inferiority, nor volunteering one.

    And then extending the value of EQUALITY to everyone: I am no less than you; you are no less than me.

    This is such a great insight, Anita! When we feel neither superior nor inferior, but equal to others, it allows us to respect both ourselves and others. And so we don’t fall for the trap of people-pleasing, submitting and then resenting it.

    So yeah, that’s a great New Year resolution: Never Again Submit, Never Again people-please, but be unapologetically authentic and honest, guided by the Principle: I am no less than you; You are no less than me. AMEN.

    Yes, Amen to that!

    I am reclaiming my childhood innocence, my 💯 love and good will for her as her daughter.

    She used to tell me that she was the best mother in the world and that I. being B.A.D, didn’t deserve her. It was a lie, a false message. I was the best daughter a bad mother could have had.

    Amen to that as well! 💪 😊 🤍

    Take good care of yourself, Tee, you deserve the best care!

    Thank you, Anita, I’m trying my best!

    🤍 🫶 🙏 🫶 🤍

    #453837
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tee:

    Using my phone and no way for me to copy and paste, so it will be a different kind of a reply

    You are 🙏 Tee, and thank you 😊 for trying your best to take good care of yourself!

    Thank you for your Amens 🙏 and for complimenting my insight regarding the equality of human value. Which allows us, like you said, to respect both ourselves and others.

    No more submitting/ people-pleasing (and then resenting it). It is indeed a trap, like you called it, Tee.

    Well, as one who’ll do almost anything so to not bother with seeing a doctor, I got new over the counter pills with “antibacterial properties”, I think it says. Feeling pretty good at the moment, other than feeling tired and socially starved/ sad.

    I still don’t feel a need to rescue my mother. Objectively, at her age, that ship (of being rescued) sailed ⛵️ a long, long time ago.

    I will take your suggestion that the adult me will be positively supportive of LGA as she expresses herself. (I want to copy that part of your message in a post later on, when I have the use of the computer) and respond further to this part.

    I agree 👍 that remaining silent 🤫 in the face of abuse encourages abuse. I want to make sure that in the future, here in the forums, I will not be silent in this context.

    🤍🙏🤍 Anita

    #453841
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    Thanks for thinking of me. 🤍

    Sorry, I have just been busy with the holidays. 😊

    First a cold and now a bladder infection. You are under the mill a bit at the moment. What a way to start the new year. I suppose you are hopefully getting all of the bad luck out of the way early. You deserve a good long run of good luck next. 🤍

    I agree with equality and I’m glad that you stand up for yourself. I think it’s great that you see that you no longer blame yourself for your mother’s misery and can see her lies for what they are. Cherish your goodness! 🤍

    #453851
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Tee:

    “Yes, I understand your need to express, and please keep doing so if it brings you relief… My only suggestion is that if you’re expressing from your inner child (LGA), to also have your adult self present, to ‘carry’ her and soothe her, so that LGA wouldn’t feel overwhelmed and helpless again. LGA should feel like it has a healthy adult support now (you being in the role of a good parent), unlike in the past when she felt all alone.

    “I think that’s how you can safely express and still not be pulled into the old feelings of fear, helplessness etc. Basically, to give LGA a container (a loving, listening ear) to safely express everything she feared to express in her childhood and beyond. If that makes sense?”-

    Yes, it makes sense, Tee, thank you!

    I want to do a LGA expression exercise with the adult-self present to carry and soothe LGA. I remember I’ve done it before 💪 😊

    🤍 🫶 🙏 🫶 🤍 Anita

    #453852
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    So good to read from you again, you were missed! I hoped you enjoyed your holidays 😊

    I am feeling better as far as both the cold and bladder infection, thank you!

    The last paragraph of your post means a lot to me 🙏🙏🙏

    🤍🙏🤍 Anita

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