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June 12, 2016 at 8:27 am #106999chrisParticipant
Hi , Im a 23 year old male, living in asia.
Let me start off by saying that i am actively using Tinder ( A dating app for anyone that does not know , it matches people if both parties click ‘ yes ‘ on each other ) . This time, i managed to get more matches as compared to last time. However, the problem is that i always tend to get ignored, mostly on the first message that i sent.
For me, i would always send a simple greeting : ” Hi, i am Jun hao, 23 this year and currently working. How about you? ” . I am a simple person, i am not able to come up with pick up lines neither do i want to use them. It is just how i am. Roughly 80% of my matches wouldn’t even reply this first message from me.
Either that, or the girls would chat with me. But this always happens : They always stop somewhere part of the conversation ( maybe after 1 or 2 days ), and leave me hanging. I didn’t try to message them again on the app, as i didn’t want to bother anyone of them.
It is really demoralizing to me. Truthfully, i feel that maybe the part that goes wrong is probably me. I am probably boring, that is why the girls stop messaging back. At first, I didn’t stop giving up, but it is now taking its toll on me. Truthfully, i do not have anybody to chat with, all i have is my colleagues. But of course i also want to have outside friends, i would really love a best friend i can be able to chat with everyday, who wont find me boring. However, all this incidents are just pulling me down.
Is the problem with me? i truly think so. I really need some help, how would i know if the problem lies with me? If it doesn’t, then why would so many of the girls i matched with ignore me?
June 12, 2016 at 8:42 am #107002AnonymousGuestDear chris:
It is my experience with online dating services that most matches do ignore the one reaching out. It is a matter of initiating a large number of requests for contact so to get a few back.
So I don’t think it is you. What it is- is the nature of online dating. It is a statistical operation. Most of your initiations will be ignored (unless you are a known celebrity or known for being wealthy). To increase your chances, you can polish your reaching-out-line, keep it authentic and yet more likely to get responses.
Instead of ” Hi, i am Jun hao, 23 this year and currently working. How about you? ” you can try another line. Again, always truthful, always authentic, but more attractive. How about a line that reveals something special about you, a line that says something very important, true about you, about the … none working you, who you are inside?
anita
June 12, 2016 at 9:14 am #107023SannParticipantHi Chris,
To be honest, I don’t know anything about online dating.
The title of your topic drew my attention, because that is the same way i have felt a lot of times throughout my life.
You say you are probably boring. Is that how you think about yourself? I recognise that, I tend to tell myself the whole time that I am boring (and a lot of other negative things which are even much worse than this), but the thing is, the more you are telling yourself that you are boring, the more you will believe it, and find less things to say, because you have already defined yourself as boring.
You might be a more calm person, who tends not to express people, and you might be a very nice person, but that is maybe less obvious in online dating, where the first impression maybe depends on exciting lines? I don’t know why that should be a problem that lies with you, maybe it is just hard to find somebody to connect with in such a way? Maybe you need to be more patient?I am replying to your thread because i also find myself boring, and i also, for a long time, only had my work and my colleagues to chat with. And that is not an ideal sitaution, because at the end of the day, they are colleagues, not friends. Maybe if you have a nice workplace and a more friendly atmosphere, you can become more like friends, but i personally want to be careful with that, i myself became way too attached with my colleagues, and it felt unhealthy to have them as my only means of social contact.
I’m actually just realising that over the past few days. Now i want to make a priority of finding ways to meet people outside of work, finding some nice hobbies, things that i enjoy, that interest me, where i can meet people outside of work and enjoy talking to them. I don’t know if i will make friends there. But it might give me more things to talk about, not only my work, and to develop myself. And i think, it might make me stronger, because i have more networks than just work, and the outside-work networks are more likely to be relaxed and about fun or interests.
I am writing this in the I-form because i find it hard to give advice, to tell you ‘maybe you could try this’. But that is my question, do you think to find some activities outside of your work, might be helpful? Maybe to meet friends, maybe to be happier and to see yourself less as boring? Or maybe to take it less personal if girls on tinder ignore you? They might still ignore you, but the need for making connections on there might be less because you have some more nice people around you?
I might be making it sound easier and nicer than it is. I am in a similar predicament at the moment (not exactly the same, because i don’t do online dating, but i have also be putting way too much weight on certain persons, and the wished relation with them which didn’t happen, so i think that’s similar as yours), and this is the way that i am looking at at the moment, to hope to make my situation better.June 12, 2016 at 5:17 pm #107059chrisParticipantHi guys, sorry for the late replies. It was nnight time for me.
I forgot to mention thats its not only girls on ttinder who ignores me. Previously, i also contacted an ex-classmate from about 6 years ago. At first, she replied back, and the replies were slow. Eventually after awhile she also stopped. Another person i tried contacting also did the same, although it ended much quicker.
So it isnt only on the online dating scene that i get ignored, even my ex-classmates did that to me.
I am currently working. My job is a 12 hour shift, and on random days. There might be times when im on day shift, and times when i am on night shift. I only get 2 hours off each week. Because of this, i do not really have time to go out to find anything that interests me. I also do not like going out alone. Maybe this is one of the things pulling me down too.
Honestly, yes, i kind of take it personally when i get ignored, becuase it happens too many times.. I get anxiety sometimes when i do not get replies, especially when its people i chatted with for abit or people i know, though the anxiety i feel now isnt much worse as compared to last time.
June 12, 2016 at 7:40 pm #107079AnonymousGuestDear chris:
How interesting: you hate being ignored and yet you ignored my reply to you, and you ignored the reply of the other member who wrote to you right after me, Sann, who wrote to you a long and very thoughtful reply.
To not be ignored, do not ignore others. You got two replies to your post. What you do is in the second post, you mention my name and the other member’s name, say thank you to each of us for replying and then you respond to each. I suggested something in my reply to you, address it.
And if you do that, then I will write you again and so may the other member. But since you ignored us both, we are likely to ignore you in return. I happened to write to you so to mention this very point.
Would you like to read my original reply to you, then respond to me and same with the other member’s reply?
anita
June 13, 2016 at 1:12 am #107102Nina SakuraParticipantHey Chris,
I guess you’re pretty tired from working those shifts and simply need some refreshment outside of work. Tell you what – try living with room-mates if you are living alone and spend your time in some quality reading. Online dating sites usually do not work the way we want and tinder is more of a booty call app anyway – try a site like goodreads for example, write reviews there on what you read. Keep your mind occupied, it will help if you dont have the time to go out. Or join quora for example, lot of quality users out there. Even medium.com is pretty good for inspirational articles.
Regards,
NinaJune 13, 2016 at 4:03 am #107105chrisParticipantHi anita, Sann and Nina, thank you for your replies.
anita, I forgot to mention that its not only girls on tinder who ignores me. Previously, i also contacted an ex-classmate from about 6 years ago via facebook messenger. At first, she replied back, and the replies were very slow. Eventually after trying to get her mobile number, she stopped replying. I also tried to contact another person and got the same results, though she only replied once and that was it. You told me to think of another conversation starter and to be always truthful, always authentic, but more attractive. However, i been scratching my head and cant think of anything good to use..
Sann, after all these incidents, i start to feel that the problem is that i am boring. What u mention is true. I am an Aquarius, i really do not portray out my expressions as compared to many other people, i have feelings, i just don’t show it out. I have met a girl from tinder last month, we went out just for lunch for the first meeting. However, i really screwed up big time on our third meeting. We went to watch ‘ The Jungle Book ‘ , and i honestly admitted i didn’t talk much to her during the whole movie. I really didn’t know what in the world i was thinking at that time. It was probably my biggest mistake. We didn’t text for a month now.. i feel disappointed with myself.
I am currently working full time. My job is a 12 hour shift, and my workdays are random. There might be times when i am on day shift, and times when i am on night shift. I only get 2 days off each week. Because of this, i do not really have time to go out to find anything that interests me. I also do not like going out alone. Maybe this is one of the things pulling me down too.
Nina, i feel tired from the 12 hour shifts, but i kind of used to it. I still live with my parents. I really love reading. I am currently reading ‘ Thinking, Fast and Slow ‘ by Daniel Kahneman . It is a psychology book about the ways people think. I am taking my time to read it. I also have a few more books i have brought still waiting to be read. I know that tinder is more of a booty call app, however things are different here in my country, the girls here use tinder to make more friends and maybe a serious partner, and not for booty calls. This i know, because that is how it is like in my country.
Sorry for the late replies, i was busy at work.
June 13, 2016 at 9:11 am #107121AnonymousGuestDear chris:
I appreciate you mentioning the names of the members who replied to you and writing something to each.
You wrote that you think you are boring and that in a date you went on you hardly said anything. As in the opening line you wrote about yourself, the line to which you don’t get hardly any responses. If you want, you can use this thread to break through this … silence, this having-nothing-to-say. You can “talk” right here, as an exercise aimed to open up this closed place in you; open up.
You can talk right here about a meaningful experience in your life- and emotional experience, one that is very painful or very happy, something that was intense for you, meaningful. If you choose to do this, we can take it from there, that is: I will reply and help you along best I can.
anita
June 13, 2016 at 9:33 am #107123chrisParticipantHi anita,
i had an emotional experience once. A few years ago, i was playing this mobile game and i happen to come across this girl. From there on, we had become best friends. More information about her : She was roughly the same age as me, and she live on the opposite side of the world ( US ) . Despite the timezone difference, we will still find time to chat everyday.
Slowly, problems started to develop. I became more clingy to her, and she didn’t like it. It was probably because i fell in love. However, she doesn’t feel the same.. I became very toxic, becoming angry and jealous at the slightest things. This really pissed her off. Numerous times, she blocked and unblocked me because of this.
Whenever she blocked me, i would text the other friends whom we met through the game ( they are all from different countries ) , many found me crazy and blocked me too. There were some that tried to help me, and they also warned me about my behaviors. I failed to heed them.
Only after almost close to 2 years do i realize that i am the problem in our friendship. I stopped contacting her because i can bring myself to give her any more problems. Approximately 2 months later, she sent me an text message, saying something along the lines of ” chris, maybe we should be friends again , if you want to, reply me ” , and i didn’t .. That was close to 2 years ago, now i really regretted it
She was the only best friend i ever had. But i was toxic, angry and jealous over silly stuff, which drove a wedge into our friendship. , i have no real hope of ever finding her again, i do not have her number anymore..
June 13, 2016 at 9:58 am #107132AnonymousGuestDear chris:
I appreciate you opening up to me, here on this thread. I will pay attention to respond gently and empathetically to you because you trusted me with this sharing, so to encourage you to continue to share, as I believe it is for your benefit.
Will you tell me more about that clingy feeling to that girl, online. How did it feel to need her and how did it feel to not get all that you needed from her?
anita
June 13, 2016 at 6:38 pm #107175chrisParticipantHi anita ,
It felt like anxiety, the anxious feeling while waiting for her text. When i got blocked, i feel very restless, i wont have the mood to do anything at all.
Kind of like falling into a trap, which is love, and a one sided love at that.
Both are such horrible feelings . It is just like you are dying inside. Sometimes i still get the feelings now, but much lesser..
June 13, 2016 at 6:44 pm #107177AnonymousGuestDear chris:
The thought of finding love is so exciting, isn’t it, so promising? And yet so dangerous? Was that your childhood experience: being blocked, rejected, trapped in loneliness, unloved?
anita
June 13, 2016 at 6:56 pm #107182chrisParticipantHi anita,
Yes it was exciting, but its one sided.. i honestly admitted that i have had some online relationships before. And you would probably guess that they also ignored me after some time.
After they ignored me, or rather ‘dumped’ me , i would wait, and wait, for them to come back. But they wont. It just hurts. It is like they just woke up and suddenly decided not to talk to me anymore. They would read my messages, but wont reply.
I can also say that i really enjoyed the online relationships , it just feels great to have someone who ‘loves’ and ‘care’ about me ..
June 13, 2016 at 7:20 pm #107188AnonymousGuestDear chris:
In those online dating things, do you post a profile, a description of you and what you are looking for?
An example of (part of a)profile you can come up with is:
My name is chris, 23. I believe there is no greater experience than to have someone who cares. I am employed, working X hours per week. Outside of work I spend my time watching TV, reading… but I would very much prefer to spend my time instead in the company of young woman, taking walks together hand in hand, talking about anything, everything or nothing at all.
This would be more interesting that the one line you came up with in your original post. If you are limited to one line, you can make it more interesting (and truthful), using your own words.
But there is the other part of your posts, the hurt of rejection that you experienced, that would make it very difficult for you to handle the stress that comes with online dating and dating in general, because there is always waiting and most women on a dating site will ignore or reject you. The thing is you only need ONE. So the question is, can you handle the rejection by MOST so to get to just the ONE? And then, can you be patient with the one, not expecting instant love and dedication?
anita
June 13, 2016 at 8:16 pm #107204chrisParticipantHi anita,
The one liner i do send to the girls is ” Hi, i am Jun hao, 23 this year and currently working. How about you? ” .
However in my profile description, i put this :
i’ll admit im not a good conversation starter. Sometimes im damn quiet too. But thats how i am. Simply simple
Aquarius
My favourites types of music are ******
Currently reading ‘ Thinking, Fast & Slow ‘ by Daniel Kahneman .
^ The above is what i put on my profile. I never put what i am looking for.
I been using tinder for a few months already, i meet up with 2 girls from there. I guess waiting is a must. I recently had more matches after changing to that profile description as i mentioned above, and adding another profile picture, as compared to previously.
But most of them just match with me and dont reply. And relationships need time, so i probably have to learn to take it slowly..
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