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  • #439788
    EvFran
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    Hi,
    I need your help.
    I feel very disappointed by many people. I don’t know what’s the best solution: just block them social media and disappear in silence or should I explain why I am so sad and upset?
    Thanks for your advice.  I don’t want to make this post too long. But if you want, I can give you examples.
    #439789
    Jana 🪷
    Participant

    Yes, sure. Explain why you are sad and upset. We’ll get a bigger picture of your problem.

    ☀️ 🪷

    #439792
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi EvFran

    Your asking a question I think many struggle with. When to speak up and when not to and maybe even block them. The latter being difficult as that could mean we stop listening ourselves and or putting our heads in the sand.

    I think we ought to be careful of all or nothing solutions though if I’m being honest with myself tend towards the latter.

    The best advice on such question I’ve come across was from a book ‘Crucial Conversations Tools for talking when stakes are high.
    The questions I ask myself before engaging is, Is it safe, do I understand my own story, am I in a space were can hear/listen… am I acting out of a sense of righteous nutritiousness which is common today and quite addictive.

    Am I hoping to be seen and understood by a person who can’t see me…

    #439798
    anita
    Participant

    Dear EvFran;

    So good to read from you again, it’s been a while! I am sorry though that people have let you down..

    just block them social media and disappear in silence or should I explain why I am so sad and upset?“-

    – here’s my advice: respectfully, explain your feelings first, and then decide whether to maintain contact based on their response. If they’re receptive, respectful and willing to change what is needed to be changed on their part, it could lead to a positive outcome. If they are not receptive nor respectful, block them.

    If interacting with some people is causing you significant distress, a break/ blocking them can give you the space you need to heal without the added stress of ongoing interactions.

    On the other hand, if you think there’s a chance for constructive dialogue, explaining your feelings might provide closure and possibly improve the situation. It can be therapeutic to express what’s on your mind, and it might help others understand your perspective.

    Personally, if I believe a person is not honest with me, is manipulative, etc., there is no point in explaining my feelings. No one is perfect, so I don’t expect.. honesty-perfection. Not even from myself. But I expect enough honesty and enough straightforwardness to make a logical/ sensible dialogue possible.

    Am I judgmental?“- it’s natural to have expectations in relationships, and when those aren’t met, it’s normal to feel upset. Being judgmental typically involves forming critical opinions without understanding the full context. From what you’ve shared, it sounds like you’re more hurt than judgmental.

    If you’d like to share examples or talk more about it, I’m here to listen and offer support.

    anita

    #439803
    EvFran
    Participant

    Dear Jana,

     

    Thanks for asking. I will try to resume all the stories. Not easy… they are too long atm. Hopefully I can reduce them and they will stay understandable 🙂

     

    #439804
    EvFran
    Participant

    Hi dear Anita,

    You got my point perfectly.  Although I wouldn’t say blocking them is putting my head into the sand 🙂 I am just tired of confrontations, explanations etc. But I will consider your smart questions. You are also right about talking with these persons. Maybe the outcome will be positive.  Although I think they will say, I am over sensitive, they didn’t mean to hurt me 🙂

    As I said to Jana, I will try to resume these long stories and will let you know. Maybe it’s easier to understand.

    Thanks anyway for your helpful feedback!

    #439806
    EvFran
    Participant

    Sorry Anita, put the head into the sand was for Peter 🙂

    #439807
    EvFran
    Participant

    Dear Peter,

    Thanks a lot for your helpful answer and the book advice.

    Yes, the question is, should I speak up or not. These are old relationships, so it’s not that easy. On the other hand, maybe this is time to ket go an old life and start it from scratch.  It’s also a good question to ask: I am acting out of what. Pride, anger, egocentrism, feeling of abandonment, fear… ? Will think about it.

    #439808
    anita
    Participant

    Dear EvFran: I will be back to you Sat morning (Fri early afternoon here). Again: good hearing from you again, and wanting to hear/ read again and again.

    anita

    #439813
    EvFran
    Participant
    As a background of my actual situation: I’ve lost 6 persons in the last 3 years. Everybody unexpectedly. Starting with my husband in September 2021, then my mum in March 2023, then a very old friend in november. My ex FIL in February 2024, my beloved uncle in May and another friend in June. My last uncle is dying at the moment. Metastatic cancer, he has weeks to go. Unfortunately he is in total denial which makes my life very difficult. I respect his choice to ignore the illness and refuse all medical help but it is a huge burden for me. I can hardly sleep, I wait for his call that we need to go to the hospital  or I worry that I will find him dead one morning.
    So due to this situation,  I might be tired and over sensitive. Although I feel I have control and I feel strong.
    So I decided to take this story as an example.
    I have an old classmate who lives in America. We reconnected last year after 40 years. I am  roaming around between Europe,  Asia and india. Atm I am in Europe. So when he told me he would come home this autumn abs would love to see me, I said I would wait for him, I can leave for India later. So I have waited until now. Finally he arrived and he could meet me a few days later. We agreed at 6 pm.. At 6:30  he texted that he would leave soon. I said ok, I was at home cooking. At some point I had a look at my phone and saw a message he sent at 7 pm  saying that he couldn’t ring the bell at the front door, it was not working, so he tought I was not at home, he tought I was angry with him or having a bath, so he left and would come back the next day. I thought it was so weird because the door bell downstairs is very loud and working fine. Finally i called him and he came back. We had dinner and talked a few hours but he rarely looked at me in the eyes during the whole evening.
    I thought it was weird. I always keep eye contact when I talk to someone. Then why would I tell him to come over 30 minutes before if I wasn’t at home. Or why would I take a bath when I am expecting someone for dinner? If I had to leave in emergency, I would definitely inform him about it.
    Now I think that maybe he didn’t want to see me at all and found the door bell as an excuse..???  The door bell could wake up a dead person, it’s really loud. Why doesn’t he look at me in the eyes while talking to me?
    It’s not a romantic relationship,  he has a girlfriend in the US. It started as a good friendship last year. We were both happy to catch up. Maybe I expected too much after I had stayed here longer because of him. In between it was good because my uncle got sick a few weeks ago. If I hadn’t waited for him, I should have come back from india in emergency because of my uncle.
    I hope it makes sense. Sorry that it’s gotten so long…
    #439814
    Helcat
    Participant

    Hi EvFran

    My condolences for your losses in recent years. I’m sorry to hear that you are currently going through that experience again with your uncle.

    Regarding your friend. Did he know about the situation with your uncle? Did you talk to him about the doorbell fiasco? If so what did he say? Is this the first time that you have met up in person for a while?

    I think that it is an emotionally charged situation because of the difficulties with your uncle. You risked a lot to take that extra time to see your friend. It meant a lot to you.

    And he was late and said that he tried to show up but he didn’t think you were in. In a normal situation this would not be a big deal. Two friends living near each other seeing each other regularly. This matters because you put in a lot of effort and even risked not being there for the death of your uncle.

    I have a question for you. Would you have risked waiting to leave if your uncle weren’t being so difficult regarding his terminal illness? I don’t mean this question in a bad way. Just that you may have needed a break, something positive to take your mind off of the difficulties. And this experience with your friend was not the positive experience you were hoping for. Instead it was a bit of a let down.

    It sounds like you regret waiting for your friend now.

    Perhaps the reason that your friend had difficulty looking at you is because he could tell that you were upset. If this was the first meeting in ages. It would be quite awkward.

    I would suggest talking to your friend perhaps not now but later on when your emotions have settled. A good friend would be able to empathise with your feelings and your situation and apologise.

    Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏

    #439816
    EvFran
    Participant
    Dear Helicat
    Thanks so much for taking time for my story and thanks for your questions.
    1.Regarding your friend. Did he know about the situation with your uncle? Did you talk to him about the doorbell fiasco? If so what did he say? Is this the first time that you have met up in person for a while?
    Yes, we discussed my situation via text a few days before he showed up. So he knew about my uncle. But I didn’t want to spend our precious time to talk about it, so we talked about his life and issues.
    Yes, I told him that I had double checked the door bell 4 times and it was working. He said he tried 5 times and it didn’t. So I just accepted the fact that it didn’t work. As I said, I was happy that he finally arrived and we could chat.
    We met up last year because his mum died just after mine, so we spent a lot of time together, I helped with the paper work and the funeral – as I had already a good agent. We had a great time in spite of the sad circumstances.
    2  I have a question for you. Would you have risked waiting to leave if your uncle weren’t being so difficult regarding his terminal illness? I don’t mean this question in a bad way. Just that you may have needed a break, something positive to take your mind off of the difficulties. And this experience with your friend was not the positive experience you were hoping for. Instead it was a bit of a let down.
    I told him I would wait for him to get back, so I would have waited even if my uncle hadn’t gotten so I’ll. He told me in September that he would come home in fall. I told him that I would wait, I don’t mind if I leave 4 weeks later, it’smore important for me to see him ( I didn’t tell him this, I just think that there are not many good friends around, so it’s worth to wait for one.). Actually, I didn’t show any anger during the evening,  as I was not angry. I was just a bit stunned first. I thought more afterwards and still didn’t understand why he had assumed so many things instead of calling quickly to see why I didn’t answer the door.
    But the evening went fine and we laughed a lot. Although I was often wondering why he didn’t look at me. Buy maybe I am just ugly to look at. It’s that simple.
    Now, after having analysed the situation, you are right  I feel a bit let down. But I don’t regret I have waited for him. As I said, we had a nice evening and it’s always a pleasure to spend time with him
    I will see how it goes. If he texts or shows any interest to meeting up, I might mention this story just to clarify and not to leave with bad feelings.
    #439817
    Jana 🪷
    Participant

    Hello EvFran,

    did you give yourself enough time to process your loss, grieve and to relax after this hard time?

    You are not judgemental but you do think about the meeting too much. And then we have tendency to see things which are not really there. You had great time together – you were glad to see each other, you laughed, chatted. I don’t see a problem with the doorbell or that he didn’t look at you often.

     

    ☀️ 🪷

    #439822
    anita
    Participant

    Dear EvFran:

    I’m sorry to read about what you’re going through. It sounds like you’re dealing with a lot of heavy emotions and tough situations right now.

    First, a summary of what you shared: you feel let down by several people and are unsure how to handle these feelings. The options are blocking on social media or confronting the individuals. These are long-standing relationships, which adds complexity to the decision of whether to address the issues or let go. You expressed exhaustion from having to explain and confront others about your feelings, and you anticipate being labeled as “over-sensitive”.

    You experienced significant losses in the past three years, including your partner, mother, and close friends. Your uncle is terminally ill, adding to the ongoing stress. Your uncle’s denial of his illness makes the situation even more challenging for you, being on constant alert for emergencies.

    You reconnected with an old classmate, which seemed positive initially but has led to confusion and doubt. The friend’s behavior (lateness and avoidance of eye contact) has caused you to question the sincerity of the friendship. The friend mentioned that the doorbell didn’t work despite the your repeated checks to ensure it was functioning. This discrepancy added to your confusion and feelings of unease. You supported this friend significantly during a difficult time, indicating a deep bond. The friend’s recent behavior contrasts sharply with this history, intensifying your disappointment.

    You feel disappointed by many people in your life, and are questioning whether to confront these people, like your friend, or to distance yourself from him and everyone and start fresh.

    * Second, my thoughts: your feelings are valid, and it’s okay to prioritize your own well-being. Whether you decide to speak up or let go, what’s most important is finding a path that feels right for you and helps you heal.

    If addressing these issues directly feels too exhausting right now, it is okay to take a step back and give yourself some space. On the other hand, if you feel that expressing your feelings would bring closure or relief, it might be worth finding a gentle, non-confrontational way to communicate your feelings to the people involved.

    Regarding your friend: it is possible that there was a genuine issue with the doorbell that your friend experienced, even if it seemed to work fine when you checked it. Technical glitches can sometimes be intermittent.

    He might have felt nervous or anxious about the meeting, which could explain the avoidance of eye contact. Social anxiety can make it difficult for people to maintain eye contact and engage fully in conversations. He might be dealing with current personal issues or stress that made it challenging for him to be fully present during your time together. Maybe he had distractions on his mind, affecting his ability to focus on making the visit happen properly.

    Maybe he made assumptions about your availability and mood based on his past experiences, or past misunderstandings with you. This could explain (?) why he thought you were angry or not at home.

    The dynamics of friendships can change over time, especially after long periods of separation. It’s possible that the connection you felt last year has shifted, and he’s adjusting to this change.

    You offered as a possible reason for him avoiding eye contact with you the following: “maybe I am just ugly to look at“. Maybe he thought this about himself and was embarrassed, so he avoided looking into your eyes. He might be experiencing his own insecurities or doubts, which could manifest in behaviors like avoiding eye contact.

    In conclusion, his recent behaviors might be more about issues in his persona life than about issues he has with you. It’s important to communicate openly and address the concerns you have with him. If you feel comfortable, consider discussing your feelings and observations with him in a non-confrontational way. This can help clarify any misunderstandings and potentially strengthen your friendship.

    If you’d like to share more examples or talk more about this example, please do.

    anita

     

    #439827
    Roberta
    Participant

    Dear EvFran

    https://youtu.be/Mna5a_NRlK8?si=LCdwSVxcNp5ZFjs_  this is the vid I watched this morning called When Someone doesnt value you. I found it quite insightful.

    What is the difference between being at peace with something & denial? As for your uncle it is his right to deal with his terminal illness his way as long as it is not illegal. Maybe he is just trying to enjoy what little is left of his life & not spend every minute being dragged down by something he can’t change.  It your right to choose if you want to be around your uncle whilst he walks this journey.

    Roberta

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