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  • #72575
    Achyheart
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    I need some perspective since I seem to be emotionally overwhelmed by a response I’m having towards others (mostly complete strangers).

    I just moved to a new city/state. Since my arrival a month ago, I’ve found much bliss and gratitude. I went through my days encountering others who are kind, helpful and managed to find much beauty despite being in a cold, snowy suburban/city environment (much different than where I came from). The people at the school I’m attending are unlike any population I’ve ever been around (at least in such large numbers), and I’ve traveled the world and lived in many cities in the US and latin america. Despite my ability to find beauty in the people I interacted with, I had been getting very negative vibes from the majority of the people. Mostly well-to-do, suburban and snotty with an air of entitlement. (and I’m guessing folks who grew up with people who looked and acted just like them). Since I’ve been practicing self-awareness I question these labels that I give to these people and try to find the place within me that’s setting me off. But daily, I keep meeting and encountering more of them. Loud, complaining, assuming everyone wants to hear every detail of what’s going on in their heads. And finally tonight, was in a class where everyone was engaged in a conversation that was racist and full of vitriol against immigrants and those who might receive public assistance.

    I’ve learned that I’m taking exceptional offense to these people because helping ethnic diversity and helping the marginalized are things that are important to me. The loud, snobby part sets me off because I was raised to be the complete opposite. I find the only thing that will comfort me and help me from getting upset, down, sad, wounded is telling myself that they were raised to be this way, it’s all they know and at times they are obviously suffering. But I don’t know that. And it doesn’t really change how much it’s affecting me. I may also be suffering additionally because I don’t have anyone to commiserate with who would understand where I’m coming from. No one to joke with about these people, which is my normal reaction when people upset me.

    I don’t want to feel such strong emotions; it’s affecting my well-being and perspective. Maybe someone could shed some wisdom for me…

    #72579
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Leila,

    I can say straight up that I was raised in that world. LOL

    1. Ironically, if you talk to any of them about your complaints about their kindred, they will chime right in. Everyone on the planet thinks they’re open-minded.

    2. They literally don’t know they are acting this way! I had someone say, “You’re a snob, aren’t you?” I had stopped short, thought about what I had just said, and replied, “My God, Jeeves, you’re correct!”

    3. The remedy (for them) is to hang out with people (like you). The more you hang with them, the more you’ll rub off on them. They’ll rub off on you, too, but only so you’re not shocked and horrified by the entitlement.

    View it all as another form of Culture Shock.

    Inky

    #72580
    AikiBen
    Participant

    Hi Leila,

    I’ve recently changed my circumstances and am consequently regularly around someone who I find very difficult to be around (albeit temporarily). I have no definite answers but from all I’ve read, and I’m sure you already know this, it’s by being around such trying people that enables us to grow, I would even go as far to say, the more trying they are to us, the more you are forced to grow, forced by your own suffering. I’m sure you know what I mean. (The more it stretches your comfort level the greater the potential for growth, so long as it’s not beyond your limit, but life only ever gives us what we are capable of dealing with so I hear.) And we both know that this suffering happens because of our resistance to things in some way, springing in this instance from judgement of the way others should be and what is wrong with them/their attitude. I’m in the same boat, you understand why they are the way they are just as I do in my own situation, but we both know that that’s not enough, because we know it yet still we suffer. I guess this is proof of what a warrior you genuinely have to be to do this stuff. That we know is good however because as they say the first step is awareness. The warrior part is where you have to practice what you preach, practice acceptance and tolerance without trying to change them (if you are trying to change them to your way of thinking that unfortunately is not acceptance of them as they are), of course this is extremely difficult. So, you try, succeed sometimes, fail often, suffer greatly, go crazy, get centred again, etc. I’m sure eventually you’ll come out on top (of your former self that is). I find this a good test of my own ego personally, being around such a person has made me realise how much ego investment I have in spirituality itself. The ego will tack onto anything, even your spirituality, trying to assert your rightness etc. It’s a fools game, I keep falling into it just automatically lately, it’s incredibly difficult not to. I guess one comes out the other side more beautiful because some of the rough edges have been knocked off of that which conceals our inner beauty, allowing more of it to shine through.

    The thing is, even if you were able to escape these people and just be around more agreeable people, how could you possibly grow so well as in your current circumstances…there’s gold in there somewhere, it’s just difficult to reach. I’m reminded of a story I heard about an old Zen monk way back when. He chose to keep an assistant at his side on his travels who was a pain in the backside to put it mildly. Apparently he always insulted him, was defiant etc. Someone once asked him why he would keep such an assistant in his company and he replied that there was no better teacher of tolerance (paraphrased), but you get my point.

    #72601
    Achyheart
    Participant

    Haha, Inky. That’s hilarious! Great to hear your experience and perspective!

    AikiBen, such great advice. I didn’t even think of this situation enabling me to grow. I just was stuck on why I react this way and not wanting to react. And yep, the ego is telling me lots of stories about how I should be and how others should act. I guess I need to keep these things in mind and try not to let my feelings and thoughts overwhelm me to the point of becoming cynical.

    Thank you for your help. Your perspective really changed the way I feel about the situation!

    #72602
    Jessa
    Participant

    Hi Leila 🙂

    You’ve already received a lot of advice, so mine will be short and sweet:

    * At the same time you grind your teeth listening to strangers complain about immigrants and poorer people, you long for someone with views like yours that you could commiserate with about “snobby well-to-do” people. In that sense at least, these folks and yourself aren’t that different. Both of you turn to others with similar life perspectives to complain, which is a very human thing to do.

    * Think about your goals with these people. You might be used to making friends at school, but that’s probably not your main reason for going. Consider the idea that you can make friends elsewhere in the city, and maybe find people more similar to you. Or, look for a club on campus that reflects your values. Maybe it’s okay for your peers in class to be just peers, nothing more. That might make things feel less personal for you when you’re around them.

    * Some good mental-mantras for dealing with people you dislike, or disagree with:
    – “I don’t have to agree with their opinions in order to appreciate other aspects about them, or for them to appreciate me. It’s okay for us to disagree.”
    – “Opinions come from life experience, and ours has been different. I wonder we can be willing to learn from each other.”
    – “It’s okay for me to ask for an explanation about cultural things I don’t understand, or to explain to them things they don’t understand, as long as I am respectful.”

    Peace,
    Jessa

    #72621
    Achyheart
    Participant

    Nice Jessa! I had a total AHA! moment while reading your post. Everything you said is spot-on. Thanks so much for sharing!

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