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September 11, 2025 at 1:30 am #449646
EvFran
ParticipantDear silvery blue,
I am not sure you are talking to me directly or generally…. yes, if you judge that I am willing to listen, it’s a good idea to discuss your qyestions wuth someone more valuable via email 😘
I would be interested though what people think about the questions you have raised. I find them very interesting, indeed and will think about it. It’s a pity you don’t wish to discuss it maybe in a separate thread. Take care 💗September 11, 2025 at 1:42 am #449647EvFran
ParticipantCorrection: yes, if you judge that I am not willing to listen….
Sorry, I have forgot the NOT.September 11, 2025 at 2:42 am #449649silvery blue
ParticipantEvFran, I will discuss privately my subjective feelings about the conflict and my concerns for which there is no more power here. People are too tired. And as you said… two people could come to a satisfying agreement. The problem is that it doesn’t include only two people. But it is enough for now. 🙏
But I am here for Brandy or others: silvery8blue@gmail.com
And of course, you can comment on these points. I would like to hear your ideas:
– how tactfully articulate our needs and boundaries without feeling like we are hurting others or ourselves
– how to learn how to remain compassionate and considerate when we feel hurt
– when we feel hurt, ignored, how properly work with these feelings (maybe tips, sources, …?)
– healthy boundaries which don’t isolate us from others (maybe try to formulate some of them?)
– any specific examples from your real lives, if you are willing to share them and want to discuss them and find some support🦋
September 11, 2025 at 3:33 am #449650silvery blue
ParticipantMaybe I can start…?
I’m not in the easiest situation. We have a functioning alcoholic and a schizophrenic in our family. They are an on and off couple. They have two boys. I am their aunt.
You can probably imagine that these people aren’t always the easiest to get along with. Too much damage took place. Physical and emotional. I understand. I really do have a lot compassion for both of them even though sometimes the pain is no longer bearable for me…
On the one hand, I don’t want to isolate myself from them. They are my family, but on the other hand, the depth of the problems is so great that sometimes I don’t have much strength left… and I just cry.
It’s like watching a tragedy and not being able to do anything.
I feel guilty for being happy and they are not.
The truth is, in a situation like that, you can’t be heard… because they don’t have the capacity to do so. They’re sick. I have to give up a lot and it just hurts… it is very hard for me to find some stability, solidity in me to cope with this. Let alone when the situation gets heated and I am in a conflict with the first one, the alcoholic… who used to be agressive and would lash out at me when I begged him to tell me what is happening and how I could help.
If something happens, something bad, I will never forgive myself.
Well, so this is, for example, my story from my real life. A conflict… a looong inner conflict… in which it’s hard to find compassion, respect, stability… because it’s so dark…
September 11, 2025 at 5:03 am #449651Roberta
ParticipantHi Silvery Blue
I have just started to listen to Thich Nat Han audiobook How to Fight on You tube along with a shorter video one How to heal the child in You wisdom for parents by him.
I do resonate with you – my ex boyfriend’s sister is bipolar & alcoholic with now 2 grown children who bore the brunt of her illnesses.
Family & friends are exhausted from the antics & the professionals have also tried. We can do our best for the bystanders who are effected by giving them access to a safe & loving environment to retreat to in times of both calm & stormy weather.
It is hard to separate the person from the illness sometimes you have to put some distance by not chasing after them. Last month she contacted me & I spent 2+hours with her at my meditation centre, listening with an open hart, & showing her some techniques to help get her started. I have not seen or heard from her since. All I can do is pray that the seeds that we planted together that afternoon will bear fruit.September 11, 2025 at 9:24 am #449660anita
ParticipantDear Tee:
I was up much of the night thinking, worrying about what I will find in this thread in the morning. I decided- before getting up- that I need to take a break from this thread- so to reread, to journal (privately), to process ..so to make it possible for me to let what I learned here sink in to a level of real, positive change in me: change in the way I think, feel and behave- online and in real-life. I thought about taking a break of a month or two.
And then I got up and read your latest response, Tee.. tears in my eyes right now.
“I truly hear that there has been a shift in you..”- yes there is. I believe that my experience with you, in this thread, is a life changer for me. You made a major, positive difference in my life, and for that I am forever grateful.
“I’ve felt a shift in me too when you’ve apologized for attacking me in your SOCJ journal, and realized that my intention wasn’t to hurt you but to help you.”- indeed it was to help me. Not to hurt me.
“… I’m still processing it all, to be honest, but thank you, truly. I might come back to your post and comment on specific points, but for now, I just want to appreciate your new sentiments and realizations about yourself and about me and my intentions.”-
Thank you, Tee. In regard to commenting on specific points of my previous post, you are welcome to do so, of course.
I would never try to silence you in any way.
It’s just that I don’t think that I am capable of reading or processing more negative criticisms of me at this time. I really need time to process what transpired so far. It’s been very difficult for me to get to this point.. the point of accountability: admitting fault.. going as far as seeing troubling similarities between my mother and me. It’s a LOT. I need time to turn inward and process.
So, as far as I am concerned, you are always welcome to voice your thoughts and feelings. It’s just that I may not respond to, or engage with certain things that are said, or may be said here, in this thread- during the 1-2 months break.
“I’m glad you’re feeling a change in yourself. This conflict certainly taught me things about myself too. I hope we can all learn from it and see what to avoid in communicating with others. It’s definitely been a learning experience, though very tough and tiring!”-
-Yes, I am feeling a major, positive change in-the-making. I am indeed in the process of learning different things, what to avoid in communicating with others is one of these things.
I am sorry that it’s been very tough and tiring for you. If there’s ever a way that I can make it up to you, if only in part.. to help you in some real way, I would like to do that.
“Thank you again, Anita, I appreciate your message and your change of heart. I think I need to rest and process it all for a while, but I’ll be back.”-
You are welcome and thank you so very much. I hope you rest well. I am thinking of starting my 1-2 months break today: a break from new negative criticisms regarding what already transpired: things that I cannot go back in time and change.
“I feel instead of a smiley after ‘tough and tiring’, a perplexed face would be more appropriate: tough and tiring :/ Don’t know how to bring that emoticon about, but anyway, it hasn’t been an easy-breezy experience for sure…”- no, not an easy-breezy experience, for sure 😕
I have a new appreciation of you, Tee, and a new respect. Actually, I am in awe of you!
Forever Thankful-
Anita
September 11, 2025 at 9:32 am #449661anita
ParticipantHere are more perplexed face emojis: 😟 🤔 🫤 😬 🥴
September 11, 2025 at 9:59 am #449663silvery blue
ParticipantWonderful. Let’s move on, please. 🙏 You can start your own thread, Anita, or continue in the journal. 😉
September 11, 2025 at 10:28 am #449667silvery blue
ParticipantThank you, Roberta. 🪷
I will listen to the audio book, too. I’m sure it will be useful.
I might share some thoughts from it here later.
We can do our best for the bystanders who are effected by giving them access to a safe & loving environment to retreat to in times of both calm & stormy weather.
❤️
I am working on it. Still much to do to become a strong, stable refuge for others.
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September 11, 2025 at 8:28 pm #449674silvery blue
ParticipantI am reading The Heart of the Buddha’s Teaching by Hanh again and I thought I could share this part about the seeds in our consciousness:
The practice of mindfulness helps us identify all the seeds in our consciousness and water the ones that are the most wholesome. When one person comes up to us, the very sight of him makes us uncomfortable. But when someone else walks by, we like her right away. Something in each of them touches a seed in us. If we love our mother deeply, but feel tense every time we think of our father, it is natural that when we see a young lady who looks like our mother, we will appreciate her, and when we see a man who evokes the memory of our father, we will feel uncomfortable. In this way, we can “see” the seeds that are in us – seeds of love for our mother and seeds of hurt vis-a-vis our father. When we become aware of the seeds in our storehouse, we will not be surprised by our own behavior or the behavior of others.
In Buddhism, there is something called “selective watering” – watering the wholesome seeds in our consciousness, and also protecting our senses from watering the unwholesome seeds from external sources. This helps me stay calmer and more balanced in hard times, but in heated conflicts I lose my ground and I cannot fully concentrate and make mistakes.
Any ideas, thoughts, tips, advice, experiences? 😊
Maybe I’ll find some thoughts and tips in the book How to Fight during the weekend. I’ll share some. ❤️
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September 11, 2025 at 10:13 pm #449682silvery blue
ParticipantInspiration:
WHERE THE FIGHT BEGINS
When someone says something unkind to you, you may want to retaliate right away. That is where the fight begins. This habitual way of reacting creates a well-worn pathway in your brain. When you travel a neural pathway over and over again, it becomes a habit. Very often that pathway leads to anger, fear, or craving. One millisecond is enough for you to arrive at the same destination: anger and a desire to punish the person who has dared to make you suffer. The mind and the brain are plastic in nature. You can change your mind, your brain, and the way you think and feel. With practice, you can create new neural pathways that lead to understanding, compassion, love, and forgiveness. Mindfulness and insight can intervene, redirecting you down a new neural pathway.I already know it’s worth reading. ❤️
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September 12, 2025 at 12:10 am #449683Lucidity
ParticipantHi everyone,
Its heartening to read how things have transformed here between Tee and Anita. Ive learned a lot from the insights they shared as they traversed this pretty rough and rocky path. Thanks for allowing this all to be public so that I could learn from it too, both of you. As Im sure many of us are, I am on my own healing journey and seeing how you have both managed to come to this place after a very drawn out and oftentimes bitter battle gives me light and hope for my own attempts at reconciliation with others in my life ❤️
Another thing I see is that there is a beautiful little community here that has been in each other’s mentions for years. For me, this is itself pretty remarkable and heartwarming. I dont see it anymore, not for a long time, and most definitely not online. I feel pretty lucky to be here ❤️ Thanks for having me (altho I guess you didnt exactly have a choice in that lol 🙂
You guys are wonderful. Keep shining your light ❤️
September 12, 2025 at 3:41 am #449687Lucidity
ParticipantHi Silvery Blue
Im sorry to hear about the situation in your family and how you are finding it hard to communicate with them because of their issues. I don’t have family members with those specific issues but I do have problems with my sister and dad with whom I feel the gap between us is too large to traverse because there has been so much pain and where I feel that I am alone in trying to broach the gap in a constructive way. It is painful to leave them behind but this is what I have chosen to do because it was affecting me, and so affecting my own family thro me, because I was unable to contain the negative influence my dad and sister had upon me. When I feel stronger I may revisit the situation because I do not want to abandon them but I chose to preserve my own sanity for my own sake and the sake of my family. I feel it was the right decision for me at this point in time. A choice had to be made to help someone since helping someone was what I wanted to do. In the end after years of arguments and disasters, I have chosen to help myself and my family. Helping my dad and sister led to further pain for all parties. Perhaps my dad and sister did not see it as pain but they couldnt stop themselves from responding to me in an emotionally immature way which is a difficult dynamic to withstand when it goes on and on and on. Breaking out of a trauma bond is a very hard and non intuitive thing to do. That may not be what you have at play. I am just relating to you the factors that were at play for me. Put in simply terms, I can only help others after I have helped myself to be a more sane person. Perhaps they may see this change in how I am with them and reflect on it to turn things around. They have always had that opportunity. Its not that I wont help those who will not help themselves, but it seems that I cant because, when I try, I hurt myself and still end up helping no one.
Your questions are very precise:
– how tactfully articulate our needs and boundaries without feeling like we are hurting others or ourselves
– how to learn how to remain compassionate and considerate when we feel hurt
– when we feel hurt, ignored, how properly work with these feelings (maybe tips, sources, …?)
– healthy boundaries which don’t isolate us from others (maybe try to formulate some of them?)
– any specific examples from your real lives, if you are willing to share them and want to discuss them and find some supportI have been thinking along these lines myself over the past few weeks. I will ponder on them and get back to you ❤️
September 12, 2025 at 5:18 am #449691Lucidity
ParticipantHi Anita 🙂
Thank you for sharing how you came to think compassionately about the different members on this forum and that, despite feeling betrayed by me, you roused within yourself a fondness for me. Sharing so openly like that is a privaledge to read, thank you ❤️
You are right in that by me not addressing you with my concearns directly, it would have seemed underhand to you. I can see that and Im sorry that I hurt your feelings. I was hesitant to address you because I saw that you were not taking on board what others were saying – those who were directly involved with the misunderstanding – and so I did not want to add to the confronting questions that you were already facing. I also felt that it would be fruitless given how you were responding to the requests of Tee and Alessa. On top of that, I wanted to express my support to them as it seemed that they were facing it alone despite others being present on the forums and remaining silent, at least at that point in time. Facing heat like that publiclly can feel lonley and frustrating. I grew up with these types of situations and so I have since made it a point to offer support to others who face something similar. When it happened to me growing up, it felt devastating, like I was invisbile and did not matter, that I was alone in my pain because others did not have the courage to offer support or even acknowledge my pain. I would not want anyone to feel like that and so that is where I was coming from.
I like you too 🙂 You have helped me in such a massive way. I have re-read one of your messages to me many times because it gave me so much clarity. It was the first time someone had so comprehensively given me a complete and rational reflection of what was going on piece-meal in my mind. It gave me courage to do what I wanted to all along but hadnt because I had not combed thro that story from start to finnish in one go before. Thank you for helping me to process it in the way that you did ❤️ You have helped so many people on these forums. You have a gift.
I hope its ok that I speak about something you addressed to Tee? It took me many years to realise that, despite having different motivations behind my behaviour compared to my mum, I nevertheless would behave like her when I was triggered or felt threatened. When I let that sink in, it really shook me up. I felt so much shame and disbelief because I had spent so much of my life separating my identity and values from what my mother upheld that I felt it was impossible that I could ever be like her. My intention was rarely to hurt others but, rather, to protect myself. On the other hand, my mums intentions were to inflict pain and suffering so, ultimately, that was the crucial difference between her and I and that is what bought me solace and allowed me to forgive myself. It was my inner child trying to protect herself and not me taking glee in others pain. Ive heard of this phenomenon referred to by a fair few therapists. Some call it narcissistic fleas (you may recall that my mother was a narcissist). This is where the child takes on some of the traits of the narcissist, as in picks up their fleas, but they arent actually a true narcissistic trait. They are simply behaviours that a child takes on given how long they were exposed to them. Children copy their parents. Its natural. It is also absolutely possible to work on these fleas and be free of them 🙂 I had them. Sharing this so that you may take some hope from it.
❤️
September 12, 2025 at 11:18 am #449696anita
ParticipantHi Lucidity 🙂
I used the same emoji you used in the opening above, so to signal reciprocated friendliness, but that emoji looks upbeat and awake and that’s not how I feel this morning and recently. I feel more like 😪, 😪 and 😪- mentally tired, emotionally exhausted, sleepy, and mentally foggy.
Also, like I shared before, I’ve been using Copilot in my responses to members (not in all) since the end of last year, including during the conflict. I no longer do, so my posts are different than before, more authentic, less upbeat (when I am not upbeat, like this morning).
And now, to the content of your most recent two posts in regard to the conflict: I am glad that you learned a lot from the insights Tee and I shared in this thread, and I hope that it does help you in your continued healing journey, and hopefully, in your attempts at reconciliation with others in your life.
To read, “Thanks for allowing this all to be public so that I could learn from it too, both of you”- is nice to read. It makes me feel that maybe some good can come out of this for you, maybe for others. For me, I need a month or two- so I feel- a month or 2 of no conflict here, in the forums- so to reflect on what happened here, get more and more clarity and make it possible for what I learned- and will learn (as a result of reflecting and journaling privately)- to sink in deeply, so to make a real change in how I think, feel and act where change needs to be made, in real life and here, in the forums.
“Thank you for sharing how you came to think compassionately about the different members on this forum and that, despite feeling betrayed by me, you roused within yourself a fondness for me. Sharing so openly like that is a privilege to read, thank you ❤️”-
This is so gracious of you, Lucidity, thank you ❤️
“You are right in that by me not addressing you with my concerns directly, it would have seemed underhand to you. I can see that and I’m sorry that I hurt your feelings. I was hesitant to address you because I saw that you were not taking on board what others were saying – those who were directly involved with the misunderstanding… Facing heat like that publicly can feel lonely and frustrating… When it happened to me growing up, it felt devastating, like I was invisible and did not matter, that I was alone in my pain because others did not have the courage to offer support or even acknowledge my pain. I would not want anyone to feel like that and so that is where I was coming from.”-
I understand where you were coming from. You were not in the wrong. Looking back, I positively appreciate you standing up for Tee and Alessa.
Throughout much of the conflict, I didn’t see Tee’s or Alessa’s pain. I only saw mine. I felt attacked, persecuted.. and didn’t know it was me who has been doing the attacking. This here, what I just wrote- I need to reflect on privately for some time It wouldn’t be good for my healing process- at this point- to discuss it further here. I need to rest and reflect on my own first.
“I like you too 🙂 You have helped me in such a massive way. I have re-read one of your messages to me many times because it gave me so much clarity. It was the first time someone had so comprehensively given me a complete and rational reflection of what was going on piece-meal in my mind… Thank you for helping me to process it in the way that you did ❤️ You have helped so many people on these forums. You have a gift.”-
I like you too, Lucidity and thank you so much for writing the above. It’s amazing how during conflict, people- in general- tend to forget the good in others and focus on the bad, having a limited, negative and distorted view of the other person. Do you agree with this, Lucidity?
And regarding having a gift: well, since the end of last year, and maybe in that very message you referred to in the quote above, much of the gift was delivered by Copilot. So.. I am not taking all of the credit.
(… Let’s see (looking at the record): your first post on tiny buddha was on March 31, 2025. My first reply was on the same day, and I can easily detect Copilot in the content of the message. My second reply was just me as far as content goes. I involved Copilot just for the final grammatical/ spelling polishing of that message.)
“I hope its ok that I speak about something you addressed to Tee?… My intention was rarely to hurt others but, rather, to protect myself. On the other hand, my mums intentions were to inflict pain and suffering so, ultimately, that was the crucial difference between her and I and that is what bought me solace and allowed me to forgive myself… Sharing this so that you may take some hope from it.”- Thank you, Tee. Your input here will be part of my reflections in the next month or two and I will probably post about it when I am ready.
Thank you very much, Lucidity, for caring for me and for others, and for helping me enter the process of holding myself accountable and in so doing, furthering my own healing journey.
🙏 ❤️ Anita
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