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    Tee
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    Dear Alessa,

    seems I did misinterpret some things…. for example, I didn’t know how incredibly courageous you were when you stood up to your stepfather to protect your step-sister:

    When I moved in my sister was being threatened with a knife by the stepfather and screamed at. I stopped that very quickly. I just said if you don’t stop picking on her I will report you to the police and you will be in jail so fast your head will spin. If you want to hit someone you can hit me, but you will end up in jail for it. Any just like that it immediately stopped.

    Wow, that’s something! You stood up to a man who was holding a knife! And you said just the right things to make him stop and never threaten your sister (or you) again. Kudos to you, Alessa!

    I would say for my brother it was mostly about not provoking my biological mother. She had a lot of strict rules that needed to be followed. My brother wasn’t really invested in following them.

    I understand your biological mother was very abusive to you, and merciless, and so no wonder you tried everything to prevent her from getting provoked. And when your brother wasn’t behaving well, that was a threat for both of you…

    I know you’ve done a lot of healing work on that, parts of which you’ve shared here on the forums as well. You’ve done some amazing inner child work and protected your inner child from your abusive mother. I think you’ve come a long way on your healing journey ❤️

    Alcoholism was a theme in both families.

    My goodness! How is it possible that you got adopted by a family with an alcohol problem? The mother drinking, and the father threatening his daughter with a knife??

    Although you said you and your half-sister were friends beforehand – perhaps that’s how? (please feel free not to answer any questions that feel uncomfortable to you)

    I didn’t get too much of the abuse from the family because I would just walk away when they started on me.

    I guess they were less abusive than your biological mother, and so you could always protect yourself, right?

    I tried my best, but I wasn’t perfect by a long shot.

    I think you did great considering the circumstances! You did your best to protect your brother and yourself from your very abusive and dangerous mother. You also did your best to protect your siblings and yourself from your relatively less abusive (but still abusive!) adoptive parents. In my eyes, you’re a hero, Alessa! ❤️

    I haven’t had contact with my brother since I left. I gave him my number but he never called.

    Oh I see… that’s what I’ve assumed wrong. You’re not trying to help your brother any longer – you’ve lost contact and he wasn’t interested in reaching out to you.

    My sister tries her best and grew out of her behavioural difficulties.

    I’m very glad to hear that!

    Well I guess it depends how important the issue is to me. If it’s not that important I’ll just process it on my own. But if it’s important and requires discussion, I’ll wait for a bit until the person seems like they would be in a more receptive mood.

    That’s a very healthy approach, Alessa. Very reasonable. So you’re not avoiding discussing important issues.

    Perhaps when you said:

    I guess it is just the keeping things inside. I wish that other people didn’t feel so much pain and could see me.

    … you meant that you wish people would notice if something was bothering you, or would inquire about you, not only focus on themselves? That they would be more receptive to your needs, without you having to expressly tell them and ask things for yourself?

    (again, no need to answer if you don’t feel like it) But yeah, that can hurt… if the relationship is one-sided and one party is sensitive to the other party’s needs, but they’re not receiving the same care and attention in return. You ask them how they are, they don’t ask you how you are…

    Anyway, just a thought, please disregard if it doesn’t apply. I think you’re doing a great job giving yourself care and attention – being responsive to your own needs – and that’s what’s most important ❤️

    #451459
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Tee

    I saw that you got the results back and your disc herniated worse this time. I hope that recovery will not be as difficult too. 🙏 I can empathise with the knee issue making things harder. ❤️

    My friend who has the herniated disc swears by his chiropractor. He found a really good one. Not every chiropractor is good though. It’s definitely worth asking around if you’re curious about trying it. Whatever you route you choose, I hope it brings you relief. I hope I’m not intruding or stressing you out. ❤️

    Sadly, it wasn’t courage. I was just desensitised to being threatened with a knife and being hit. I wasn’t even scared because of what I’d been through with my mother.

    Thanks, yeah I surprised myself and I was a little nervous because it was years since I had tried that exercise. It really does help though!

    Ah well, we were all members of the same cult. That’s how we met. Members were encouraged to only spend time with other members, that’s how we became friends. Social worker was just really shoddy back then. They were looking to skip paperwork, cost of providing childcare, legal fees and protocol with informal adoption. Because they were family friends I was literally dropped off and social work never even bothered to get back in touch again.

    I am thankful that I wasn’t alone. I didn’t feel able to cope on my own at the time.

    Yes, it was easy to protect myself with my adopted family in comparison.

    Honestly, it is okay. I don’t mind questions or misunderstandings. My life has been complicated. ❤️

    Yes, that and I feel like I’m a bit impatient and get a bit anxious and frustrated waiting for the right time to discuss things. I prefer it when people are easy to talk to. ❤️

    I think being a bit skittish around negative feelings just makes it feel like I’m not being accepted. But I realised recently that I’m not accepting the other person when I’m being resistant like that. ❤️

    #451464
    Tee
    Participant

    Hi Alessa,

    thanks for your support regarding my health issues. Yes, I know that some people go to chiropractors, but as you said, you really need to know a good one, someone you can trust, because it can make things worse. Sadly, I don’t know anyone who could recommend a good chiropractor, so I prefer to stick with physical therapy and hope that it will work 🙏

    And no, you’re not intruding, thank you for your empathy ❤️

    Sadly, it wasn’t courage. I was just desensitised to being threatened with a knife and being hit. I wasn’t even scared because of what I’d been through with my mother.

    Oh I see… poor you 🙁 I’m so glad that this nightmare is now behind you and that you’ve done a great deal of healing ❤️

    Social worker was just really shoddy back then. They were looking to skip paperwork, cost of providing childcare, legal fees and protocol with informal adoption. Because they were family friends I was literally dropped off and social work never even bothered to get back in touch again.

    I am thankful that I wasn’t alone. I didn’t feel able to cope on my own at the time.

    Oh I see… so it was more of an informal adoption? Even if social work knew about it, they didn’t care whether the family you were going to was safe enough, right? But I understand that for you, it was much better than being left alone (or perhaps be placed in foster care, with some unknown people?)

    Yes, it was easy to protect myself with my adopted family in comparison.

    I am glad that your adoptive family wasn’t as abusive, and that you felt some relief, comparatively ❤️

    Yes, that and I feel like I’m a bit impatient and get a bit anxious and frustrated waiting for the right time to discuss things. I prefer it when people are easy to talk to.

    Right… waiting for the person to be more receptive and in a better mood, specially if they themselves are in pain a lot, as you said. I can imagine that this might make you feel like you don’t have the right to discuss something that’s important to you, not to disturb them even more?

    I think being a bit skittish around negative feelings just makes it feel like I’m not being accepted. But I realised recently that I’m not accepting the other person when I’m being resistant like that.

    You mean if the person expresses some negativity about their own issues (complains about something in their own life), you feel like they’re not accepting you, even if they’re not complaining about you? So you feel resistance to them expressing anything negative – which is kind of the opposite extreme of what you did before, when you felt you needed to soothe them and make sure you take care of their needs, at the expense of your own? Am I understanding this right?

    ❤️

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