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  • #378133
    Ishita
    Participant

    Can we rather start a new topic ,( if you guys really think this is an issue I should resolve ) , rather than staying on this same topic, because I guess now we can close this one

    #378135
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Ishita,

    we can start a new topic if you’d like, but I’d like to address the situation with X:

    yes , i kind of dont want to admit that, also , its just gonna end up being a gossip , if we go around talking to common friends about it, I wouldnt want that,I dont want them to resolve it for us or even attempt to it as well.

    I totally understand that you don’t want to admit this to your pals and become a subject of gossip. What I believe would help you is to admit it to yourself, and to stop blaming yourself for falling in love with someone who behaved lovingly towards you (at least in the beginning). It’s not your fault. It’s completely normal. You have the right to fall in love with anyone you want, and specially with someone you thought so highly of and who treated you well at first. So try to have compassion for yourself.

    You said you want him to “understand you and let you go and allow you to heal”. But actually, his understanding is not what you need right now. What you really need is to understand yourself – have compassion for yourself – and let yourself off the hook. Forgive yourself for whatever you feel you did wrong in this relationship. Forgive yourself for falling in love, for hoping, for having expectations from him, for allowing sexting, for accusing him for not calling you, for being vulnerable with him.

    Your blaming yourself now is almost certainly related to that experience before entering college, when you were under stress, you were blamed by your batch mates, and even by your teachers. Instead of trying to understand why you have problems and helping you, your teachers blamed you. Since we tend to trust authorities (teachers, trainers and coaches) almost as much as our parents – you started believing them and accepted that something’s wrong with you, that you’re not good enough. And the pressure of entering amongst fierce competition just added to your insecurity and anxiety.

    I wish I could go back and tell the 17 year old self ,how it was ok to let go, because there are bigger things waiting, and I will get it anyways( because now, when I am in college , I see an entirely different picture , to what I used to imagine then, and its so much better)

    Actually, you can  go back, in a meditation, and tell exactly that to your 17-yr old self. This is what she needs to hear – and it is you who can release her.

     

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 12 months ago by Tee.
    #378145
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Ishita:

    career in india. com/ entrance exam: “These exams which are very competitive in nature teach students to deal with competition they are about to face in their future…  Students who crack these exams are selected in the top colleges”.

    drona. in. com: Entrance Exams are conducted by various educational institutions or universities in India to provide admissions into different courses like engineering, law, management, (etc.).. Student have to attend for the Entrance Exams after completion of their 12th or graduation to get admissions into their dream course. Generally, students are of three types. ‘Some make wonder happen. Some watch wonders happen. Some wonders, what happened?’ So, you must work hard and make wonders happen”!

    You wrote: “I used to be a really good student academically, and then I started off with my entrance preparation, where I kind of got messed up”- you were a good student before you were 17, before you entered the Entrance Exams preparation program. It was the very competitive nature of the students you were with, and the pressure put forth by the teachers that messed you up, as you put it.

    “People around me were kind of toxic… nobody wanted me in their groups.. Being around toxic batch mates, who used to kind of attempt to pin me down during classes”- because of the very competitive nature of the exams, other students tried to squash the competition/ you, to put you in the group that “wonders what happened?” (drona).

    Teachers “used to always say, how they really expected exceptional performance from me”- exceptional performance is needed to make it to the top universities, but you did not function well under the intense competition and pressure to perform exceptionally.

    “I used to sit to study, I used to keep obsessing over how and why I joined late, and the way things could have been.. I .. suffered everyday, there used to be so many days I didn’t.. even feel like getting up in the morning because I’ll have to go through the same pattern everyday, and I was unable to break myself out of it”- the whole experience, at 17,  was traumatic for you. You didn’t want to be there, but felt trapped. As a result, your anxiety was intense, you were depressed and obsessing.

    “this used to define me, being the smartest kid in class, being really fast, but now, I was losing it, I was in a race, where there were thousands of people better than me, and I had never compared myself to anyone before, but I guess that’s what a competitive exam kind of does to you”- without competition you performed very well, academically, but when other students tried to squash you and teachers pressured you, you broke under the pressure.

    You are currently attending college. Were your Entrance Exams grades high enough to get you to a top college/ a college you wanted to get into, and study the subject matter you were interested in?

    * You can start a new thread if you want to, it is up to you (doesn’t make a difference to me).

    anita

    #377829
    Sushanth
    Participant

    Hello Ishita,

    I’ve been following your story, all I wanna say is that you become what you believe.

    If you believe you are BROKEN by this incident, then nothing in this world could heal you or fix you. Yes, feelings and emotions do matter, but they should never dominate LIFE.

    Consider this a lesson, a reminder which reminds you to FOCUS on YOU. Frankly speaking, get over this, nothing should bother you now. Don’t have any regrets of unspoken words or feelings. Don’t even think of the guy now, focus on your career and believe in yourself. Every time you think about this, it pulls you down.

    I’m sorry if I’m being blunt, but thats how LIFE is.

    I would like to end on one note- What dosen’t kill you, makes you STRONGER!

    regards

    leo

     

    #379688
    Anonymous
    Guest

    How are you, Ishita?

    anita

    #380005
    Ishita
    Participant

    Hey Anita I am doing fine

    I hope you are doing good too.

    Sorry for my disappearance, I wasnt in the right space of mind at that time.

    I would also want to update you

    That I had done a lot of thinking after that, and I realised that I would rather be more fine than keeping in touch to some extent rather than gng completely no contact since it was making it difficult for us to work together on the same project.

    So, I talked with him and I told him how I was not over whatever had happened but I  am ready to let it go slightly, for the sake of the friendship that we have and just keep to it so things dont remain awkward.

    He was obviously thankful that I made that decision. So, we were successfully able to work on the project together and I felt he kept trying to get close to me and trying to gain my sympathy by asking for my opinion on his personal issues which he just wanted to share with me. Started sharing philosophical quotes with me every morning  to keep me motivated for the coming rough days in the club(thats for all the members btw) and other stuffs

    Just that,During the project we used to end up have random calls at times (twice or thrice in total) where we used to end up talking for 1-2 hrs just like we used to have previously, although I used to be very careful that we dont go off topic , just general stuffs mostly and club related (there were a lot of issues happening in the club during tht time that used to be very stressful at times)

    I still wanted to be around him, but I knew this was just the initial chase that narcissist pull, to get the victim to fall for them again.

    I didnt want all this, so, everytime he used to discuss any personal issue or try to act overly caring , I used to ask him to cut the crap (in a politer way)

    Long story cut short, he has been bothering me lesser, after thr project got over, because I never call him on myown, so it might seem clingy for him to force something.

    I have been strong up until now,giving him the clear msg that things can never be exactly the same but somewhere or the other till date I feel everyday a bit sad that he was probably never really into me otherwise instead of these half as efforts he would have really had the guts of not letting me go, for him I was never as special as he was for me.

    Ps :I dont think it has something to do with my past exactly, because I have never been stuck on anything, and always seen it as an opportunity to grow, but this right now is just a void, I feel alone, betrayed and kind of unlovable to this day (which I know isnt true but I just do feel this way)

    #380007
    Ishita
    Participant

    But I would also like to add, that although I might sound a bit hopeless in my last msg.

    Somewhere i had this strong belief (still do) that he will return on his own someday, because he kept chasing me for a month until I called off the no contact and even since them, he keeps trying to have me around and being there for me. ( I might be wrong to assume this, but it just felt this way strongly)

    But

    Realising the fact that I was always an option for him, not really someone he d make efforts for, it has just gotten easier to accept the present situation and learning to let go.

     

    I still haven’t let go exactly, but i know I am coming to terms with accepting the fact i stated above and i know this too shall pass eventually

    So, i have gotten better at focussing on myself and my family and other friends

    #380008
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Ishita:

    I am glad you posted again. What I understand is, that your experience with this young man opened a deep wound within you, that of not feeling special enough to be loved in return.

    This feeling of not being special enough to be loved back feels like a void. You feel betrayed because your love was not returned, unlovable because he didn’t love you back the way you loved him (the italicized are your chosen words). You experience these things with him for the first time in the context of a romantic/ adult relationship, but it seems to me that you experienced this before, in a different context, and meeting him brought your earlier- life experiences back to your awareness, and it hurts.

    It is amazing, isn’t it, how terrible it feels, to feel unloved and unlovable. I am sorry, Ishita. I know the feeling and I know the void. I hope you feel it for way shorter time than I felt it. I know it is possible for you to be loved, even though it doesn’t feel possible at this time. Please do post again, I do want to read more from you.

    anita

     

    #380019
    Ishita
    Participant

    Yes Anita

    Thanks for understanding, it is kind of difficult to not feel the pain even though its been 2 months.

    But i guess one cant control the process of healing so I guess all I can do is just give myself the love and care I think I deserve

    Ishita

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Ishita.
    #380024
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Ishita,

    I am sorry you’re still feeling sad and betrayed about him not reciprocating your love. What stands out for me when reading your latest posts is that partially you’re still believing he’d “return” someday. Which means that he’d fall in love with you the same as you did with him, and love you the way you love(d) him. As a boyfriend, not as a friend.

    Somewhere i had this strong belief (still do) that he will return on his own someday, because he kept chasing me for a month until I called off the no contact and even since them, he keeps trying to have me around and being there for me. ( I might be wrong to assume this, but it just felt this way strongly).

    You’re conflicted because on one hand you believe he’s a narcissist who tries to exploit you for his own purposes:

    I still wanted to be around him, but I knew this was just the initial chase that narcissist pull, to get the victim to fall for them again.

    I didnt want all this, so, everytime he used to discuss any personal issue or try to act overly caring , I used to ask him to cut the crap (in a politer way).

    But on the other hand, you believe that he – even though a narcissist – would change for you. That he would finally see how special you are and choose You before anybody else.

    Even though you rationally know it’s highly unlikely that he’d give you what you want, the hope and the craving is still there. It seems to me like a child’s craving for love – to be seen and acknowledged as special in her parent’s eyes. To be worthy for a parent to change for her sake, and to finally love her… Is this feeling familiar to you? (It could also be that I am making a baseless assumption here. If so, I apologize)

    But i guess one cant control the process of healing so I guess all I can do is just give myself the love and care I think I deserve.

    I believe we can only heal if we understand what caused the wound… if you want to talk about it some more, you’re very welcome. If not, that’s fine too, I totally understand it.

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Tee.
    • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Tee.
    #380027
    Ishita
    Participant

    Hey Teak

    I hope you are doing good too

    Coming to this discussion , it is ok for you to make that assumption that it might have something to do with my parents , but I am sure thats not the case because my parents have always made me feel supported and cared for.

    Although I wouldnt completely disagree to this having to do with something from my past, because it might be I am not thinking hard enough and I know that I have always been an emotionally sensitive person, so it might have something to do with my relations with everybody around me in my childhood

    What do you think?

    #380028
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Ishita,

    I am fine, thanks.

    I have always been an emotionally sensitive person, so it might have something to do with my relations with everybody around me in my childhood

    Would you like to expand on that? As emotionally sensitive, did you feel different than your sisters and in need of special attention or special treatment?

     

     

    #380029
    Tee
    Participant

    * sorry, your sister (you only mentioned one sister)

    #380032
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Ishita:

    When I posted to you last, I read the first post you submitted on May 17, but not the second. Combining what you shared in your original post April 3 with what you shared in your second of 2 posts yesterday, this is what I get: “I AM STILL HOPING HE WILL COME BACK TO ME… I had this strong belief (still do) that he will return on his own someday”-

    – You need him to come back to you, to return to you: You have been experiencing a separation from this young man to whom you are emotionally attached. You are waiting for the separation from him to be over.

    When you were a child and a teenager, living at home, you were the “smartest kid in the class, being really fast”, but at 17, studying for exams, living away from home, you felt that you were losing your identity (“I was losing my identity.. losing it”), not able to concentrate, and doing poorly on tests (“my poor test performance”). You wrote this about your experience of living away from home: “when I look back, I feel really bad, for that self of me, how much she suffered everyday, there used to be so many days, I didn’t even feel like getting up in the morning… my sister used to often sit with me on video calls, to help me concentrate while she was working. My mom used to stay up at night until I would stop crying and fall asleep”.

    At 17, separated from the people to whom you felt a strong emotional attachment (parents, siblings, maybe grandparents), you felt so anxious that you were unable to concentrate, unable to study, unable to sleep, you cried and suffered a lot, and you needed to be calmed down by your mother and sister on video calls so that you could concentrate and study or be able to stop crying and fall asleep. Clearly, you suffered from separation anxiety before the young man your thread is about (X) entered your life.

    You wrote about X: “he is someone who is emotionally not very expressive”. But with you, he expressed a lot of affection, he sort of..  made an exception to his non-expressive nature for you: “he was trying to be much more emotionally expressive, and trying to get to know me, supporting me, and always being there for me”. On your part, you made an exception for him: “I used to generally have my guard on around even my good friends until I am pretty sure I would want to be close to them”, but with him, you let your guard down, and you trusted him: “I have trusted him throughout… I thought he understood me, but maybe he never did… I want to let him know that he just hurt me so bad”-

    -In your most recent post, you wrote: “my parents have always made me feel supported and cared for”- reads like you have good parents, parents who often supported you and cared for you. I say “often”, not “always” because it is not possible for anyone to always be supportive and caring. Maybe some of the times when your parents were not able to be supportive and caring were very difficult times for you (?)

    anita

    #380111
    Ishita
    Participant

    I am sorry but I wouldnt exactly want to talk about how I used to be in the past, because its kind of tough, I dont want to remember that phase again especially when I am already everyday suffering because I  still not over this guy.

    But I ll just like to mention a few things,

    Its not the first time something like this has happened, where someone special to me didnt feel the same way aboutme and so the expectations not matching. Infact , I ended up losing my best friend because of certain reasons and she was my first best friend, but I didnt feel that pain for very long, I allowed to let go of it and knew that atleast we are friends and this is the way it should stay . She was my go to person for everything and till date I havent found anyone else in my life, with whom I could share everything the way I used to with her

    But this here, something has happened I just cant seem to let go. I thought a lot about it yesterday as well, what exactly was he doing that I was having such a hard time letting go.

    And I dont know how much sense does this make, but I ll be honest here that

    I have always felt that I am someone who is an extremely anxious person and I feel I am a difficult person as well because I dont easily make close friends although I have a lot of just friends. Somehow, I feel that the place where I am at, people wouldnt exactly understand my background and what makes me the person I am. I get anxious to even the semester exams(which isnt actually something to be very bothered by) but I just have become someone in the past few years who always fears screwing something up (even though I know I wont and infact could do way better) but this anxiety drags me down with itself always, when some or the other opportunity stands at my doorstep. Often times I donot allow it to take over and sometimes i fail.

    So, someone (who is infact someone I adore) pretending to have that empathy for me and making me feel (atleast initially) as if though I am not a difficult person to hang on to.

    I couldnt help but fall for it, I thought he ll be my strength just like I wanted to be his.

    Also, Its not that I have never been approached by some guy before, but I have never felt the same about them or felt that connection. I had never found a guy before with whom I could think of trusting with myself, thatsall.

    And I thought he was someone who had that maturity and understanding that I would have wanted in my partner and that I could open up to him and trust him with myself.

    I hade started feeling less anxious in the initial months when he used to be all pretentious and I used to feel as if though I had someone for me.

    And this is the main reason why I am having a hard time letting go because I just realised that it was never about me, all the time I had been trying to open up to him, thinking that he is getting me, he was just trying toenjoy all the attention.

    I didnt feel this miserable about myself ever before, but rn I am. I feel I am not special and also I have kind of messed up my timeline after all these things.

    I know this shouldnt take this long to let go

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